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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 12:08 AM
Was just browsing sukhoi.ru and looking at what our russian comrades saying about new toy. Apparently this server is designed to work with either UBI lobbies (Currently doesn`t work) or with UBGS -Ubi Game Spy, i take it it`s pure game spy. Neither of those are sound like a good idea /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

I guess i`ll hold off with install and wait till some officials will provide more info just readme, which doesn`t say whole alot. Ack. Another thing that confuses me, there is no Russian version of dedicated server...what gives? That this mean that this product UBI-use only type of thing? Anyone care to explane? Ack....

Well, VFC*HOST will be up at Hyperlobby around 9pm eastern /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif No dedicated server YET.

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 12:08 AM
Was just browsing sukhoi.ru and looking at what our russian comrades saying about new toy. Apparently this server is designed to work with either UBI lobbies (Currently doesn`t work) or with UBGS -Ubi Game Spy, i take it it`s pure game spy. Neither of those are sound like a good idea /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

I guess i`ll hold off with install and wait till some officials will provide more info just readme, which doesn`t say whole alot. Ack. Another thing that confuses me, there is no Russian version of dedicated server...what gives? That this mean that this product UBI-use only type of thing? Anyone care to explane? Ack....

Well, VFC*HOST will be up at Hyperlobby around 9pm eastern /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif No dedicated server YET.

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 12:33 AM
No coop mode either http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 12:53 AM
yeah its pretty useless for the majority of online players who play on HL, hopefully jiri will make ti work for HL with ubi


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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 01:00 AM
Yanno...

Its fairly difficult for me to make any judgements about this new gift since <h1>I can't freakin download the whole thing!~!!!!!11</h1>

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 01:07 AM
So to paraphrase, we don't know what it is, what it does, and it's too big.

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 01:09 AM
I'm SHOCKED that UBI rolled out something that doesn't work the way average logic would have all of think it should.

Shocked... again that is.

Way to go! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 01:10 AM
Dunhill_BKK wrote:
- So to paraphrase, we don't know what it is, what it
- does, and it's too big.
-


No. We know exactly what it is and what it (supposedly) does. Some of us just cant seem to get the file before the connection terminates.

I've been at this all day with no luck.

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 01:30 AM
I tried it ...Its not my bag ...

ill stick to hyperlobby for now .

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 01:35 AM
Dexmeister wrote:
- I'm SHOCKED that UBI rolled out something that
- doesn't work the way average logic would have all of
- think it should.
-
- Shocked... again that is.
-
- Way to go!

If you plant your tongue any further in your cheek, you're going to need medical help to get it out./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 01:36 AM
Not good at all, unable to even run it as a dedicated standalone server for IP only games.

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 09:47 AM
Well we have the server running, and I have to say having run lots of games servers of various types over the years this one is not good.

To start with its got no good instructions with it, its hard to configure and it does look like all you can do is join via the lobby.

Its a start though I guess.


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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 10:07 AM
Sounds like it isn't dedicated enough

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 12:14 PM
"Not good at all, unable to even run it as a dedicated standalone server for IP only games"

exactly.

This was what I was worried about - ubi releases a product that only was designed for ubi.

ubi - wake up - 300+ pilots are on hyperlobby every night of the week - that is where the majority of pilots fly.

Why do you release a product for hosting online games if you don't work with the developer of Hyperlobby?


1. as mentioned, Hyperlobby is one of the primary choices for online play.
2. 80% of the online play is coops in the form of online virtual wars that are requesting dedicated server support to be able to play a smoother game with more objects, yet here is no coop support?
3. why is there not a direct ip connection setup?
4. 300 meg file for a readme that looks like it was quickly typed up last minute and pushed out the door?


My confidence has dropped to a new alltime low - and it's directly pointed to ubisoft.

The developer at hyperlobby wasn't even given a chance a download and eval before it was released to the public.

Listen to your customers please - we've discussed this over and over again - I know I've alone posted it many times asking how this would integrate, how would it work with coops, etc... To me, this release blatantly ignored the bigger questions.

I can just hope Jiri can find a work around.

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JerseyD
09-24-2003, 12:26 PM
I had a funny feeling it was only gonna work with the ubi browser but I kept my mouth shut because I knew it wouldnt have changed anything.
Oh well I'm not suprized at all.

They need to rename it "dedicated ubi server"
or maybe "server no-one will ever run"

Maybe someone can hack it so it lets people join from HL,ASE or IP ?

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 12:47 PM
RayBanJockey wrote:
- Sounds like it isn't dedicated enough


That's the first thing you've said that I've ever found to be amusing.

Let's hope I don't have to wade through another 3000 posts for the next one.

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 01:43 PM
JerseyD wrote:
- Maybe someone can hack it so it lets people join
- from HL,ASE or IP ?

Maybe someone can write a faked UBI-GS proxy to be run on the same or different computer, just to satisfy the FB-server's need for talking to UBI.....

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 02:29 PM
I wouldn't mind having to use UBI except for two major problems...

FIRST OF ALL I can't seem to host on UBI anymore because the thing tries to have people connect to my internal IP no matter what I set the UBI thing to. WTH is this all about??? (I'm on a router, as one would most likely HAVE to be to host a dedicated server....)

Secondly, much of the time, I just want to host IP games for my friends and squad.

This severely cripples this whole dedicated server thing, if it is true.

I haven't messed with it yet, so I am only going off what you guys are sayig. And it is my understanding that it only works with UBI.

OH!!! and if you can't do Co-Ops with it, it IS pretty useless, isn't it?

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 03:39 PM
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adlabs6
09-24-2003, 03:41 PM
Let's see if I've got this straight...

You can't just install this dedcated server software on a second PC, run a console server, and allow connection via IP?

Doesn't that make the software useless?

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 03:51 PM
I was gettin all inspired to get another rig put together with extra parts I have kickin around so I could use this dedicated server thing. Guess I'll wait for awhile until it appears to work with HL and so forth. At least now I don't have to go out and buy a router this weekend. Dang! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


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09-24-2003, 07:43 PM
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09-24-2003, 07:59 PM
This is just too much... Oleg how could you allow this??

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