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jfri
04-29-2004, 04:28 PM
Once I bailed out from my fighter. The parachute opened and I landed and was shown the message 'player killed'. With parachute I should come down unharmed but in FB things aren't like that. Why?

jfri
04-29-2004, 04:28 PM
Once I bailed out from my fighter. The parachute opened and I landed and was shown the message 'player killed'. With parachute I should come down unharmed but in FB things aren't like that. Why?

CAP401
04-29-2004, 04:36 PM
Did your pilot start to run and do a face plant or did he just immediately plant his face into the ground?

Call_me_Kanno
04-29-2004, 04:38 PM
When you land does the pilot run away and then dive on the ground? Or does he just hit the ground and lay there? If he just lays there then your chute was damaged somehow and he fell to his death. The damage could come from your plane exploding close to him or in a MP session someone could have sot your chute and it collasped.

If he runs away then dives on the ground and you get the player killed message then I'm not sure why this is happening.

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Kamikaze_Gibbon
04-29-2004, 04:41 PM
What altitude did you bail out from? Much below 300m can lead to a nasty end! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif

ColoradoBBQ
04-29-2004, 04:45 PM
The parachute only slows down your vertical velocity. What kills your pilot, even from 2000M, is the velocity across the ground. Try to pull up your damaged plane up before you bail out to create as little velocity as possible.

DD_NL
04-29-2004, 05:00 PM
Or if your pilot did land safely on the ground but then got hit by shrapnel from his exploding plane as it hit the ground right behind him.

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jfri
04-29-2004, 06:05 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Call_me_Kanno:
When you land does the pilot run away and then dive on the ground? Or does he just hit the ground and lay there? If he just lays there ]

Just hit the ground (building to be precise) and lay there.

jfri
04-29-2004, 06:09 PM
fell to his death. The damage could come from your plane exploding close to him or in a MP session someone could have sot your chute and it collasped.

My plane didn't explode what I could see. Also in such a case why didn't I get the message up in the air? Another thought is that sometimes in a battle the screen goes black and I can't do anything. I suppose this means that the player was killed. The briefing says so. So it seems I was alive until I hit the ground (building).

jfri
04-29-2004, 06:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ColoradoBBQ:
The parachute only slows down your vertical velocity. What kills your pilot, even from 2000M, is the velocity across the ground. Try to pull up your damaged plane up before you bail out to create as little velocity as possible.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

But a parachute should slow down even the vertical velocity rather quickly. What I know from the real life is that the problem arises at the time the parachute opens if the speed is to high. And I think I did pull up the plane before bailing out.

Mon Pavion
04-29-2004, 09:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jfri:
fell to his death. The damage could come from your plane exploding close to him or in a MP session someone could have sot your chute and it collasped.

My plane didn't explode what I could see. Also in such a case why didn't I get the message up in the air? Another thought is that sometimes in a battle the screen goes black and I can't do anything. I suppose this means that the player was killed. The briefing says so. So it seems I was alive until I hit the ground (building).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

When the screen goes black, it means you were killed. As far as your pilot dying when he hits the ground, it means you hit the ground to hard(bail out at a higher alt.)

Trigger_88
04-29-2004, 10:34 PM
I have done some experimenting with this had it hapen before. sometimes when your guy jums out if he hits any part of his falling plane like goes through the wing or tail even if chute opens when he hits the ground it says player killed. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Cold_Gambler
04-29-2004, 11:23 PM
What Kamikaze Gibbon said-

After the parachute canopy opens the rate of descent slows down to a survivable speed only after about 100 meters (my rough estimate)- ie: the canopy can be open but you still die because you are still falling too fast-

If there's one area of FB that I'm an expert in, it's dying http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

AirBot
04-30-2004, 04:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jfri:
fell to his death. The damage could come from your plane exploding close to him or in a MP session someone could have sot your chute and it collasped.

My plane didn't explode what I could see. Also in such a case why didn't I get the message up in the air? Another thought is that sometimes in a battle the screen goes black and I can't do anything. I suppose this means that the player was killed. The briefing says so. So it seems I was alive until I hit the ground (building).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The explosion/fragments could damage your parachute, but not kill your pilot. If you're shot in mid-air, your canopy is collapsed or you jump too late and hit the ground with too much speed (even though the canopy is open) you will die.
The screen goes black only if you die while still inside your plane. If your pilot is killed in his chute, you will still see everything as usual. You should notice the pilot is slumped over in his chute harness though, if I'm not mistaken.

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-30-2004, 05:37 AM
You need to be quick on the esc+refly. Once you bail, there are many things that can happen to you or your chute. Just refly as soon as you bail and you won't die.

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hos8367
04-30-2004, 02:36 PM
I've noticed this too. Often if you bail "too low" it kills your pilot when he hits the ground. I have noticed it many times when there is no other reason the pilot should die. I've jumped out of an airplane IRL, and let me tell you the deceleration when you hit the chute is quick and violent. In a second your speed is slowed down to a scerene (sp?) float. I think the game makes a mistake in that you have to float for a relatively long time for a safe landing (It seems like over 5 seconds at LEAST).

gates123
04-30-2004, 03:00 PM
Well its obvious that the chutes are undermodeled http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/justin/1087/WWII/Images/Thumbs/TBf109AK.jpg
Did anyone see that or was it just me?

hos8367
04-30-2004, 03:37 PM
I tested this out (wow, i must be bored). I flew a 109 in QMB. Everytime I turned the plane upside down and ejected at low altitude. I nosed the plane "up" (which was actually down) to make sure the pilot did not hit the tail. I know the pilot was not hitting the plane as I ejected becuase if the chute was deployed for over 15 seconds the player would live everytime. If it was under 15 seconds he would die everytime.

I know this is pretty insignificant, but oh well... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I'm going to post tracks in the ready room

Stalker58
04-30-2004, 03:38 PM
Bailing is no art..crashing is! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Altitude, speed, manoeuvre and.... CRASH!

Philipscdrw
04-30-2004, 03:45 PM
You landed on a building? That may kill you automatically.

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BuzzU
04-30-2004, 03:48 PM
Look at yourself coming down in the shute. If you are limp with your head down. You be dead.

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Gato-Loco
04-30-2004, 03:49 PM
So you jump, open your chute, get smashed against a building...and wonder why you haven't survived???

Curly_109
05-01-2004, 06:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ColoradoBBQ:
The parachute only slows down your vertical velocity. What kills your pilot, even from 2000M, is the velocity across the ground. Try to pull up your damaged plane up before you bail out to create as little velocity as possible.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

that's the right answer... even on lower alt than 300m i manage to to bail succesfully from HurriMkI doing nose-up to lower speed. you should always do that before bailing out

cheerz

F19_Olli72
05-01-2004, 10:01 AM
The finnish pilots manual for the 109 states the lowest safe baleout altitude to be 150m http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/93.gif

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