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XyZspineZyX
11-13-2003, 04:37 AM
Oleg,

see in these two images of the IL2FB which using "S3TC Texture Compression" the game use 254MB of memory, but without texture compression, it use 355MB. These 100MB (or more) are very important for systems with little memory.

With "S3TC Texture Compression".
http://www.fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/img0001.jpg

Without "S3TC Texture Compression".
http://www.fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/img0002.jpg


Normally, the framerate with S3TC is better, but not when using mirrors. See these two images.

With "S3TC Texture Compression" using mirror.
http://www.fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/img0003.jpg

Without "S3TC Texture Compression" using mirror.
http://www.fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/img0004.jpg


Mirror of Hurricane and P-40 reduce FPS more than mirrors of P-47 or La-7. Check this, please.

I think which your team may optimize the IL2FB, not only in the mirrors, for the use of the "S3TC Texture Compression" because which there are several advantages.


Thanks for your attention,

FAB_Devil
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XyZspineZyX
11-13-2003, 04:37 AM
Oleg,

see in these two images of the IL2FB which using "S3TC Texture Compression" the game use 254MB of memory, but without texture compression, it use 355MB. These 100MB (or more) are very important for systems with little memory.

With "S3TC Texture Compression".
http://www.fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/img0001.jpg

Without "S3TC Texture Compression".
http://www.fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/img0002.jpg


Normally, the framerate with S3TC is better, but not when using mirrors. See these two images.

With "S3TC Texture Compression" using mirror.
http://www.fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/img0003.jpg

Without "S3TC Texture Compression" using mirror.
http://www.fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/img0004.jpg


Mirror of Hurricane and P-40 reduce FPS more than mirrors of P-47 or La-7. Check this, please.

I think which your team may optimize the IL2FB, not only in the mirrors, for the use of the "S3TC Texture Compression" because which there are several advantages.


Thanks for your attention,

FAB_Devil
"Traidores e covardes no sero perdoados!"
FAB - Brazilian Official Team

Senta a Pua!
1º/1º Grupo de Aviaço de Caça Senta a Pua!
Os Jambocks

ICQ 38792295

XyZspineZyX
11-13-2003, 06:27 AM
FAB_Devil, hi.

You have posted, basically, what is suppose to happen.

In a nutshell, texture compression will speed things up (at the price of image quality). (The textures are compressed!)

About the mirrors, with or without TS, same thing. Your own pics, in regard to memory used, show this. The (graphical) readings are the same in relation to settings and mirrors.)

<font size="2" color="yellow">"With "S3TC Texture Compression"." (Example 1)
Usage = 254</font>

<font size="2" color="orange">"Without "S3TC Texture Compression"." (Example 2)
Usage = 355</font>

<font size="2" color="yellow">"With "S3TC Texture Compression" using mirror." (Example 3)
Usage = 254</font>

<font size="2" color="orange">"Without "S3TC Texture Compression" using mirror." (Example 4)
Usage = 355</font>

In regards to FPS readings, are you testing with ONE track, running all the way through? Or, are you loading up a map each time and then turning on your FPS indicator? (Yes, it does make a difference. And I can tell by your pics that you are loading a map each time for a test in QMB.)

Concerning the mirrors and different memory usage for dif planes. 'I' don't buy it. Of course, you can post more pics. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Do your best to get more memory. It will be an improvement. 256 (261616) will run, but 512 would be a lot better. You need to get off your page file. (Does your vid card have 32MBs or 64MBs of memory?)

Just curious. What type of memory does your system use?

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Message Edited on 11/13/0303:13AM by RealKill

XyZspineZyX
11-15-2003, 11:45 PM
RealKill,

You need more pics?! Sorry! Retry understand these!

You want know about my memory type?! This is irrelevant! The question is about memory usage and not memory speed!

Suggest for all to buy 512MB of memory or more! Or suggest for all to buy new computers! But this is not a good idea! The IL2FB is a product to be sale! And optimize to low system requeriments is better for sale!

FAB_Devil.



Message Edited on 12/09/0303:10AM by FAB_Devil

XyZspineZyX
11-15-2003, 11:56 PM
devil......



shut up

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XyZspineZyX
11-16-2003, 05:40 AM
Devil,

Before harassing people and begin asking people's ages, you yourself must understand that you know SH.T about computer hardware. Your way of memory usage measurement is pathetic, and wrong. The value you read is PAGE FILE USAGE, not the memory IL-2 uses. So, shut up and play your game.

XyZspineZyX
11-16-2003, 05:50 AM
FAB_Devil, hi.

About you posting more pics, I was just joking with you. But, yes, you can post more pics showing what you are talking about. However, your testing should be methodical.

About asking what type of memory you use, I was asking because I thought I might have some extra laying around doing nothing that you could have. It would not be the first time I gave people hardware, burned disks with patches etc., even if I had to ship over seas.

Lighten up, please.

Also, I am correct about what I pointed out to you concerning your original post. Your own pics show that.

About buying more memory, your pics also show that you are hitting your page file (virtual memory). That is definitely slower than memory (RAM). I did say, "Do your best to get more memory." It was not like a command, or something.

EDIT: BTW, you can still post your memory type if you want. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Had you posted and I had it, I would have PM'ed you. (No hard feelings.)

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Message Edited on 11/15/0311:06PM by RealKill

XyZspineZyX
12-09-2003, 07:13 AM
RealKill and wintermute222,

if in the pics the memory usage is virtual or no, the game use more without S3TC than with S3TC! Buy more RAM is irrelevant in this case because which the amount of memory usage is always the same!

Thank you very much Oleg! Different of this guys, you understand me!

Now, with the version 1.21, the S3TC work better when I use the mirrors and my FPS is now 45! In the same test with previous version, it was 26! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

FAB_Devil.



Message Edited on 12/09/0303:15AM by FAB_Devil