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VF2_Tim
08-22-2004, 06:47 PM
It seems to me that the neg g engine burnout on the i-16 is way too touchy. even 1/2 to 1 second of neg g will fry the engine. I've even had choppy weather fry the engine. Even if this was the reality of the plane (which my gut tells me to doubt), it makes for a bad feature on a flight sim plane IMHO.

VF2_Tim
08-22-2004, 06:47 PM
It seems to me that the neg g engine burnout on the i-16 is way too touchy. even 1/2 to 1 second of neg g will fry the engine. I've even had choppy weather fry the engine. Even if this was the reality of the plane (which my gut tells me to doubt), it makes for a bad feature on a flight sim plane IMHO.

LEXX_Luthor
08-22-2004, 06:57 PM
Wellcome to Forgotten Board.

I~16 not nearly as touchy with more recent Patches. Download Patch....forgot, the latest FB Patch, but if you have AEP on top of FB use the big Patch 2.01 and then the small Patch 2.04. Now it works great and once you learn I~16 you don't cut out unless you want to...but you gotta know I~16 well.

um...maybe joystick settings are off a bit, or keyboard (like how I started out).

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p1ngu666
08-22-2004, 07:46 PM
its not burnin out the engine http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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LEXX_Luthor
08-22-2004, 07:49 PM
mmm, I missed that. He must have original FB 1.0 cos back then you may as well burn out the engine cos you couldn't get it started again.

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TX-EcoDragon
08-23-2004, 12:03 AM
Yes, not only is it far too sensitive, but the toggle mags and restart procedure is just plain silly. In real aircraft such as these, the return of positive loading on the aircraft restores fuel flow, and the engine begins running normal without any intervention by the pilot. There is no reason to toggle mags, nor engage the starter, as the pop will continue to windmill, and the mags may as well continue firing, the only thing missing is the fuel, and that returns when you pull back, or roll upright.

This point, and the fact that the fuel starvation occurs what seems like .3+ Gs and almost instantly makes it hard to fly the aircraft in turbulence without the engines shutting down. . . and again, this is just silly.

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LEXX_Luthor
08-23-2004, 12:31 AM
No instant cut~out here. What Patch are you fellas using?

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"I had actually pre ordered CFS3 and I couldnt wait..." ~Bearcat99
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Close this book forever and don't open anymore!" ~Oleg_Maddox http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

VF2_Tim
08-23-2004, 10:06 AM
Hi, I've got aep 2.04

Maybe burnout is the wrong word here. The engine cuts out and won't start again. Even small adjustments in neg g to put enemy in crosshairs can cause this problem.

Fennec_P
08-23-2004, 10:08 AM
You can restart the motor, but only if the propeller is spinning. About 300km/h is required.

LEXX_Luthor
08-23-2004, 08:58 PM
About ~200km/hr minimum here.

Re~start engine takes time, and often takes multiple tries--watch engine guages to see behavior...re~start often fails. And don't try this at home with low altitude and low airspeed. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif

Experiment with throttle settings too when re~starting.


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"You will still have FB , you will lose nothing" ~WUAF_Badsight
"I had actually pre ordered CFS3 and I couldnt wait..." ~Bearcat99
The 109 was the dog chasing the car and the P51 was the dog catcher ~ASH_SMART
"Gladiator and Falco, elegant weapons of a more civilized age" ~ElAurens
:
"Damn.....Where you did read about Spitfire made from a wood?
Close this book forever and don't open anymore!" ~Oleg_Maddox http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

LLv34_Stafroty
08-24-2004, 02:06 AM
should some other russian birds suffer from engine cut too while pushing the stick?

wasnt La5 and F model too without injection engines? AFAIK LA5FN had the fuel injection, not surethough http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif=