PDA

View Full Version : Japanese fighter shootdown record?



VF-3Thunderboy
07-18-2004, 01:19 PM
I was wondering what is the "record" for a Japanese fighter pilot shooting down Allied planes on a single mission. I have seen "7" (confirmed-) a number of times for US, from Wildcats, Hellcats, P-51's- shooting down German and Japanese.

I know Muto shot down 4 Hellcats with a George.

Just wondering. Thanks

VF-3Thunderboy
07-18-2004, 01:19 PM
I was wondering what is the "record" for a Japanese fighter pilot shooting down Allied planes on a single mission. I have seen "7" (confirmed-) a number of times for US, from Wildcats, Hellcats, P-51's- shooting down German and Japanese.

I know Muto shot down 4 Hellcats with a George.

Just wondering. Thanks

theRealAntEater
07-18-2004, 02:57 PM
I suppose it was six
Lt.Cdr Fujita of the Kaga claimed six TBDs at Midway, but aftwards he was shot down by a friendly destroyer and had to ditch.
Some japanese claimed 9 kills per mission but I dont know particulars. Kenji Okabe claimed six kills while defending Shokaku at Coral Sea, but there were only around six overall losses and Okabe can hardly have shot all down. I think he got three, including the Lexington CAG.
Fujita's claims are the most credible to me, especially since he didnt really boast about them.
Btw, for the Luftwaffe the Record is 13 against Soviets and 8 against Americans. Both by the same Pilot, Erich Rudorffer (220 kills total). The fight against the soviets was over lake Ladoga in November 1943 against Yaks. Russians often doubt Rudorffers score, but only a week before he had scrambled in his Fw 190 and shot down 9 Il-2s, all of which fell on german territory and were found, so I think he could have really shot down 13 fighters.
The 8 Americans he got in February 1943 over Tunisia, 2 Lightnings and 6 P-40s.

LeadSpitter_
07-18-2004, 05:11 PM
I remember reading 3 p39s destroyed in under 30 seconds. They were all shotdown by a single ki43

http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v43/leadspitter/LSIG1.gif

Warlordimi
07-20-2004, 01:48 AM
BTW, you should read THIS STORY (http://www.j-aircraft.com/research/stories/anabuki1.html) Satoru Anabuki shot down 3 Liberators and a P38 in a single mission. But above all, have a look on it's third B24 kill!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

k5054
07-20-2004, 03:00 AM
Anabuki's victories were on a day no US raids were made, against a/c no other witness saw, and all the wrecks fell at sea where they couldn't be checked.
This and the Muto thing owe more to enthusiastic press than reality.