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ipoh
05-16-2004, 11:22 PM
On May 8th, 2004, arranged by China Aviation Sports Association, CHN_@6!, CHN_RedStar and a film-maker group of CCTV-5, altogether 5 persons drove from Beijing to the Aviation Training Base in Datong, Shanxi Province to experience the real flying by sim pilots with plane 'Nanchang CJ6'.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0001.jpg
Hit the books on the way...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0002.jpg
CCTV_AIR, director of CCTV-5: Ah?! Is this the cabin of CJ6?

It was just the time for dinner when we arrived at the Base in Datong! The buffet dinner of air duty is pretty good!
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0013.jpg

From 20:00 on, we did the ground training for one hour, half of the budget. It was due to the practice in IL2-FB that we were very familiar with the panel, stick and switches, etc. of CJ6. Mr. ****, our instructor emphasized some important points and operating principles, and established the flying plan in the next day for us, including flying experiencing (in the back cabin), basic flying control practice (in the front cabin) and take-off/landing exercise with short course.

At 7 o'clock in the morning on May 9th, 2004, we got up and took the breakfast. At 8:00 we left the hotel in the Base and made the short trip of 2 minutes to the airport in the Base. Before we approached, we heard the strong engines roaring -- there lined 5 CJ6s warming up on the parking apron in front of the garage. It was the first time for me to see the real CJ6 with my own eyes!
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0021.jpg
The first one in my sight was B-006! Wasn't it my fighter number? Haha!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0025.jpg
There were dumps of planes in the garage. We took photos before the cargo-transport Y5..(CCCP An-2's Chinese version) 8D

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0031.jpg
Waiting for the ground crew examination...
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0037.jpg

Finally... finally I saw the familiar panel! 555~~~
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0049.jpg
So similar... so similar with those of the Soviet fighters in IL2-FB! Kiss...
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0050.jpg
And Chinese everywhere!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0047.jpg
No. B-006!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0058.jpg
Last explanation on the procedure of engine start/shut down.

The Director of the Base discussed with the instructors and decided to perform a formation aerobatics of 3 planes firstly as the greeting to us, and allowed us to experience in the back cabin! What a good chance we never expected!
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0069.jpg
RedStar got on the B-006, Wing Co.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0072.jpg
Me, B-066, Left Wing.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0076.jpg
CCTV_AIR in the back of No. 27, camera plane.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0079.jpg
RedStar - last examination before takeoff.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0087.jpg
My B-066 was ready.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0093.jpg
The back was not bad...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0094.jpg
Looking around...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0097.jpg
Get onto the runway orderly.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0098.jpg
Perform plane ready for takeoff clearance.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0104.jpg
Formation takeoff!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0109.jpg
Climbing.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0110.jpg
Pity that not picking up my camera. RedStar and me salute to each other with dumb show in the sky.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0121.jpg
Formation change.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0129.jpg
Feel it's just like the formation in IL2-FB. It seemed be a very good way for training the formation with FB!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0139.jpg
Keep order and circle.

Before landing, when the formation changed into a straight line I experienced the first G load in my life, couldn't be described with any words. The plane was banked at 60 degrees or so and circled rapidly. I was pressed into the seat and couldn't move a little...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0152.jpg
Perform ends. Landing... touched down.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0155.jpg
Seen from this point, the flaps of CJ6 are some like those of I16.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0183.jpg
Got off the plane. The instructor asked our primary feeling. We felt so cool!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0186.jpg
CCTV_AIR who took charge of the camera in the air said sth wrong with his ears. Poor guy! His plane was too fierce as the camera.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0195.jpg
CCTV_AIR's stomach needs to lose some weight...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0202.jpg
Group photo.

After the formation performance, I prepared to start self-controled flying at once. Mr. ****(instructor) emphasized some important points to me.
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0208.jpg
Take a smoke, ready to fly!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0213.jpg

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0214.jpg
This is the machinist of B-066, an experienced technician of China Air Force. The B-066 was then tested to be the best one of those CJ6s. And he shared the same hometown with RedStar. Salute to the fellow townsman!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0277.jpg
Last preparation before takeoff. We could put on the umbrella and safety belt by ourselves, which isn't simulated in IL2-FB.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0220.jpg
Start the engine following the rules: Check the ...?

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0222.jpg
RedStar taxi before me.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0226.jpg
RedStar took off.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0232.jpg
I took off.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0233.jpg
Raise the front wheel at 70km/h. Leave the ground at 120km/h.

Had left the ground, we turned into the left course and climbed to 300m. The instructor told me via intercom that the plane was now operated by myself! I relaxed my body and arms, held the stick and ...

...
...
I couldn't bear it and raised my hands to the instructor in the back cabin. He handled the plane into the landing procedure...
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0239.jpg
I must restrain... restrain myself...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0240.jpg
Went on restraining!!!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0243.jpg
Ah!!! Got rid of it!!...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0245.jpg
Mr. ****: Good guy, dared do that maneuver, but suffered himself.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0248.jpg
Ah... The real plane is much different from the sim... My poor stomach...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0256.jpg
RedStar was back, looked better than me. He had the vision, cool.

We finished the flying experience in the morning. After lunch we had a good rest and ready for the training afternoon...
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0270.jpg

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0274.jpg
3:00 pm, ready to start again. Took photo before takeoff.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0281.jpg
...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0282.jpg
Got onto the runway.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0283.jpg
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0284.jpg
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0285.jpg
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0286.jpg
...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0305.jpg
Circle, keeping the altitude and speed.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0307.jpg
Build the landing course.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0308.jpg
...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0309.jpg
...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0313.jpg
...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0316.jpg
Got off.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0318.jpg
Began boasting..

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0319.jpg
Instructor smiled happily.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0320.jpg
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0321.jpg
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0322.jpg
Listen to the drillmaster commenting... Ayo, my crotch was sticked!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0325.jpg
Took photo with the instructor.
Here's the end of the first day of real flying. Really really fantastic experience!

Other pics:http://www.dof.cn/userupload/image.php

[This message was edited by ipoh on Tue May 18 2004 at 12:03 AM.]

ipoh
05-16-2004, 11:22 PM
On May 8th, 2004, arranged by China Aviation Sports Association, CHN_@6!, CHN_RedStar and a film-maker group of CCTV-5, altogether 5 persons drove from Beijing to the Aviation Training Base in Datong, Shanxi Province to experience the real flying by sim pilots with plane 'Nanchang CJ6'.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0001.jpg
Hit the books on the way...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0002.jpg
CCTV_AIR, director of CCTV-5: Ah?! Is this the cabin of CJ6?

It was just the time for dinner when we arrived at the Base in Datong! The buffet dinner of air duty is pretty good!
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0013.jpg

From 20:00 on, we did the ground training for one hour, half of the budget. It was due to the practice in IL2-FB that we were very familiar with the panel, stick and switches, etc. of CJ6. Mr. ****, our instructor emphasized some important points and operating principles, and established the flying plan in the next day for us, including flying experiencing (in the back cabin), basic flying control practice (in the front cabin) and take-off/landing exercise with short course.

At 7 o'clock in the morning on May 9th, 2004, we got up and took the breakfast. At 8:00 we left the hotel in the Base and made the short trip of 2 minutes to the airport in the Base. Before we approached, we heard the strong engines roaring -- there lined 5 CJ6s warming up on the parking apron in front of the garage. It was the first time for me to see the real CJ6 with my own eyes!
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0021.jpg
The first one in my sight was B-006! Wasn't it my fighter number? Haha!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0025.jpg
There were dumps of planes in the garage. We took photos before the cargo-transport Y5..(CCCP An-2's Chinese version) 8D

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0031.jpg
Waiting for the ground crew examination...
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0037.jpg

Finally... finally I saw the familiar panel! 555~~~
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0049.jpg
So similar... so similar with those of the Soviet fighters in IL2-FB! Kiss...
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0050.jpg
And Chinese everywhere!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0047.jpg
No. B-006!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0058.jpg
Last explanation on the procedure of engine start/shut down.

The Director of the Base discussed with the instructors and decided to perform a formation aerobatics of 3 planes firstly as the greeting to us, and allowed us to experience in the back cabin! What a good chance we never expected!
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0069.jpg
RedStar got on the B-006, Wing Co.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0072.jpg
Me, B-066, Left Wing.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0076.jpg
CCTV_AIR in the back of No. 27, camera plane.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0079.jpg
RedStar - last examination before takeoff.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0087.jpg
My B-066 was ready.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0093.jpg
The back was not bad...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0094.jpg
Looking around...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0097.jpg
Get onto the runway orderly.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0098.jpg
Perform plane ready for takeoff clearance.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0104.jpg
Formation takeoff!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0109.jpg
Climbing.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0110.jpg
Pity that not picking up my camera. RedStar and me salute to each other with dumb show in the sky.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0121.jpg
Formation change.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0129.jpg
Feel it's just like the formation in IL2-FB. It seemed be a very good way for training the formation with FB!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0139.jpg
Keep order and circle.

Before landing, when the formation changed into a straight line I experienced the first G load in my life, couldn't be described with any words. The plane was banked at 60 degrees or so and circled rapidly. I was pressed into the seat and couldn't move a little...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0152.jpg
Perform ends. Landing... touched down.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0155.jpg
Seen from this point, the flaps of CJ6 are some like those of I16.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0183.jpg
Got off the plane. The instructor asked our primary feeling. We felt so cool!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0186.jpg
CCTV_AIR who took charge of the camera in the air said sth wrong with his ears. Poor guy! His plane was too fierce as the camera.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0195.jpg
CCTV_AIR's stomach needs to lose some weight...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0202.jpg
Group photo.

After the formation performance, I prepared to start self-controled flying at once. Mr. ****(instructor) emphasized some important points to me.
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0208.jpg
Take a smoke, ready to fly!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0213.jpg

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0214.jpg
This is the machinist of B-066, an experienced technician of China Air Force. The B-066 was then tested to be the best one of those CJ6s. And he shared the same hometown with RedStar. Salute to the fellow townsman!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0277.jpg
Last preparation before takeoff. We could put on the umbrella and safety belt by ourselves, which isn't simulated in IL2-FB.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0220.jpg
Start the engine following the rules: Check the ...?

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0222.jpg
RedStar taxi before me.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0226.jpg
RedStar took off.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0232.jpg
I took off.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0233.jpg
Raise the front wheel at 70km/h. Leave the ground at 120km/h.

Had left the ground, we turned into the left course and climbed to 300m. The instructor told me via intercom that the plane was now operated by myself! I relaxed my body and arms, held the stick and ...

...
...
I couldn't bear it and raised my hands to the instructor in the back cabin. He handled the plane into the landing procedure...
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0239.jpg
I must restrain... restrain myself...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0240.jpg
Went on restraining!!!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0243.jpg
Ah!!! Got rid of it!!...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0245.jpg
Mr. ****: Good guy, dared do that maneuver, but suffered himself.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0248.jpg
Ah... The real plane is much different from the sim... My poor stomach...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0256.jpg
RedStar was back, looked better than me. He had the vision, cool.

We finished the flying experience in the morning. After lunch we had a good rest and ready for the training afternoon...
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0270.jpg

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0274.jpg
3:00 pm, ready to start again. Took photo before takeoff.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0281.jpg
...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0282.jpg
Got onto the runway.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0283.jpg
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0284.jpg
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0285.jpg
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0286.jpg
...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0305.jpg
Circle, keeping the altitude and speed.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0307.jpg
Build the landing course.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0308.jpg
...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0309.jpg
...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0313.jpg
...

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0316.jpg
Got off.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0318.jpg
Began boasting..

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0319.jpg
Instructor smiled happily.

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0320.jpg
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0321.jpg
http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0322.jpg
Listen to the drillmaster commenting... Ayo, my crotch was sticked!

http://www.chnace.org/dof/datong/dscf0325.jpg
Took photo with the instructor.
Here's the end of the first day of real flying. Really really fantastic experience!

Other pics:http://www.dof.cn/userupload/image.php

[This message was edited by ipoh on Tue May 18 2004 at 12:03 AM.]

Seahawk89
05-16-2004, 11:31 PM
Great stuff http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

tenmmike
05-16-2004, 11:41 PM
well over half your pics cannot be displayed (red x) but thanks for the other ones. very nice post,,all the posts from the chn guys are always very good

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xTHRUDx
05-16-2004, 11:45 PM
i agree. feel sorry for the 56Kers trying to read this

tenmmike
05-16-2004, 11:51 PM
3nd time around i got all of them .this time ..thanks

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LeadSpitter_
05-17-2004, 12:11 AM
Im jealous, great stuff and thank you for sharing the pictures with us.

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WUAF_Badsight
05-17-2004, 12:15 AM
that was one hell of a posting there ipoh : )

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05-17-2004, 12:37 AM
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Weather_Man
05-17-2004, 12:40 AM
Great! That looked like fun. You even posted the air sickness part, lol.

Thanks for sharing!

T_O_A_D
05-17-2004, 01:14 AM
Cool Awsum time you had I'm sure. Green with envy here too! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Have you checked your Private Topics recently? (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=ugtpc&s=400102)
My TrackIR fix, Read the whole thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p=1)
131st_Toad's Squad link (http://www.geocities.com/vfw_131st/)
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Charos
05-17-2004, 01:20 AM
Fantastic Story -- Thanks For shareing

Loks like ALOT of fun

F19_Ob
05-17-2004, 01:44 AM
Now that was interesting...thnx a lot and even the photos were good.

Sadly I get to ill when my world spinns. Instructors and airexperienced say I'm a natural puker......and they were impressed. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/icon_twisted.gif

JG52_Helgstrand
05-17-2004, 01:45 AM
Yeah thanx for sharing, very cool indeed!!

Oblt.Helgstrand
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gombal40
05-17-2004, 02:01 AM
Nice series!!! nice plane too.

ednavar
05-17-2004, 03:05 AM
Great post, thanks!!
Although the plane is clearly overmodelled http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

EPP-Gibbs
05-17-2004, 03:44 AM
Excellent stuff. It's quite an experience first time up, isn't it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

They look like Chinese license built Russian YAK military trainers, similar to the Yak 52 but with fully rectractable gear, as opposed to semi-retractable, shallow gulled wings, and a non-Yak style tailfin.

I've done some time in a Sov built Yak52 and it's a lovely little plane. No slouch either, with a 360HP radial engine. It's complete with non-functioning fire-button on joystick labelled 'Rasturi' (rendered from the cyrillic) meaning 'destroy'. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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JimmyGiro
05-17-2004, 05:06 AM
Hurrah !!!

Splendid show chaps... I think just standing on the wing would have gave me vertigo http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif

Truth abhors a compromise.

SeaFireLIV
05-17-2004, 05:14 AM
Good stuff. But it took even my connection ages to get all these pics. 56kers beware!

lindyman
05-17-2004, 05:39 AM
Haha! It sure beats the simulation thing, doesn't it. You're stuck now. There's no return. You'll have to go all the way and learn the real thing now! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
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/Bjorn.

Heavy_Weather
05-17-2004, 10:49 AM
great pics http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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- Serafima Amsova-Taranenko: Noggle, Ann (1994): A Dance with Death.