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XyZspineZyX
11-16-2003, 08:34 AM
i was in a nice little dogfight with a 109G2 while i was an F4 and he seemed to turn alot tighter than me! I had full flaps..combat flaps..engine throttle up and down ..and still he was gaining on me. We even had similar E advantage. My gas was at 25%. I'm assuming he had either the same or more. Do you have any REAL numbers that can tell me which 109 has the best turn? I was using the 1.2b patch ( RC 01 ).

XyZspineZyX
11-16-2003, 08:34 AM
i was in a nice little dogfight with a 109G2 while i was an F4 and he seemed to turn alot tighter than me! I had full flaps..combat flaps..engine throttle up and down ..and still he was gaining on me. We even had similar E advantage. My gas was at 25%. I'm assuming he had either the same or more. Do you have any REAL numbers that can tell me which 109 has the best turn? I was using the 1.2b patch ( RC 01 ).

XyZspineZyX
11-16-2003, 11:30 AM
Ironman69 wrote:
- i was in a nice little dogfight with a 109G2 while i
- was an F4 and he seemed to turn alot tighter than
- me! I had full flaps..combat flaps..engine throttle
- up and down ..and still he was gaining on me. We
- even had similar E advantage. My gas was at 25%. I'm
- assuming he had either the same or more. Do you
- have any REAL numbers that can tell me which 109 has
- the best turn? I was using the 1.2b patch ( RC 01 ).

I heard (and ROSS Youss confirmed this, he HAS access to the data, otherwise he couldn't have done Il2compare), that the Fs have 400kg added (!) because they were turning too good... maybe Maddox should check it again and take another mix to get similar flight properties, but a better turn than G-2.

XyZspineZyX
11-16-2003, 11:46 AM
was the 109F4, without doubt.

she was around 200kg lighter than the G2 with 125PS less.
so lower wing loading with equal power to weight ratio gives
the 109f4 the advantage
takeoff weight is 2850 kg(F4)....don't know what il2 uses.

additional info:

takeoff weight 109F2 (DB601N) was 2760kg with 1175PS max
takeoff weight 109F4 (DB601E) was 2850kg with 1350PS max
takeoff weight 109G2 (DB605A-1)was 3030kg with 1475PS max

wastel

XyZspineZyX
11-16-2003, 01:43 PM
Yea in 1.2 RC_01 Bf G2 is good turnig fighter. I flow Mig 3U and got in turn fight with G-2. At begining i have some adventage but after a few circles he got on my six. I use combat flaps and full power. In Fb data Mig 3U has better turn time than G-2. G-2 is now amazing fighter. Much better in dogfight (t&b) than F-4.

XyZspineZyX
11-16-2003, 02:33 PM
Any concrete turn times from the game at the moment?
Did G-2 get changed?, I haven't tested it yet I am still drooling over G-6. If the weight story would have something to it climb should change as well.

Just curious...

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XyZspineZyX
11-16-2003, 11:57 PM
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