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UKVoodoo
04-07-2004, 09:42 AM
A little of topic but good for a laugh how about a modification to a C-47 like the one in the picture

http://www.theaviationzone.com/images/gunships/ac47/bin-1/ac47_04.jpg

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UKVoodoo
04-07-2004, 09:42 AM
A little of topic but good for a laugh how about a modification to a C-47 like the one in the picture

http://www.theaviationzone.com/images/gunships/ac47/bin-1/ac47_04.jpg

Good old "Spooky" Haunted a lot of peoples dreams http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SUPERAEREO
04-07-2004, 09:47 AM
Yeah, it would be interesting to fly in a VIETNAM based sim, but not in FB...

S!



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Chuck Yaeger

SUPERAEREO
04-07-2004, 09:49 AM
Does anyone know how they aimed the miniguns, btw?

S!

BlackSqn81
04-07-2004, 10:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SUPERAEREO:
Does anyone know how they aimed the miniguns, btw?

S!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They where used for goundpunding only, like the CH130 hercules w miniguns still in use. In vietnam they just circled a groundtarget and flew at a constant banc to hit it...
The newer minigunpods in the CH130 are guided by joystick and a nightvisioncamera by a gunner, but they still fly in circles over the target, as far as i know they where used in iraq and afganistan

S!

S!

VonKlugermon
04-07-2004, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by SUPERAEREO:
Does anyone know how they aimed the miniguns, btw?


Original AC-47 didn't have a gunsight, just painted crosshairs on the left window. "Kentucky Windage" did the rest. Later mods used Skyraider gunsights mounted in the left window. Night vision, etc., came later. AC-119, AC-130 were based on the AC-47.

Willy

UKVoodoo
04-08-2004, 09:43 AM
Yeah, it would be interesting to fly in a _VIETNAM_ based sim, but not in FB...

I know that, thats why i said it was OFF TOPIC and GOOD for a LAUGH!!!

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-08-2004, 10:05 AM
It was affectionately called " Puff the magic Dragon" and had a guy with a snow shovel to move the spent brass out of the way of the gunners.

It would definitely shred-with-lead.



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73GIAP_Milan
04-08-2004, 11:22 AM
later on, they fitted infrared trackingdevices to the gunships..

and indeed there was a guy with a shovel to get the shells out when "spooky" did his job...

Would love to take 1 up in the air for a bit of ground target annihilation...4x6000 RPM = Alot of holes in things on the ground... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif

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Breeze147
04-08-2004, 11:39 AM
Later referred to as Snoopys. I had the pleasure? of seeing them in action very close in 1969 in Nam. Devastating. They aimed the entire AC-47. From a distance, at night, the tracers looked like lasers coming down from the sky. Also the USAF used the "Flying Boxcar", can't remember the designation number, for the same purpose. Really an awesome sight to see 2 or 3 of them go to work at night.

True story. One day while I was stationed at Tan Son Nhut (Saigon Airport) I got a 12 hour pass. Being your basic red-blooded American 20 year old, I headed straight to Plantation Road. After a few hours of partying, I struck a business arrangement with a young half-Chinese, half-French, young woman. Since it was a very beautiful evening, we decided to conduct our business out on the rooftop of the establishment where she worked as a hostess. I was about 2100, the final light of day going over to night. About 15 miles away, a battle was raging and the sound was quite distinct. After the conclusion of our business arrangement, we walked over to the parapet wall of the roof (the building was about 4 stories high) and found that we had an excellent view of the action. We were soon joined by another hostess. Off in the distance, the gunships were working over something real good. There were flashes and flares and muffled gunfire all over the place out there. And here I am, 20 years old, with my arm around 2 semi-naked, very pretty young hostesses, taking the whole scene in.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap16.jpg

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-08-2004, 11:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Breeze147:
.. And here I am, 20 years old, with my arm around 2 semi-naked, very pretty young hostesses, taking the whole scene in.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap16.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


War is hell...



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Usberet
04-08-2004, 02:03 PM
It'd be nice to know what caliber those are.

Zyzbot
04-08-2004, 03:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Usberet:
It'd be nice to know what caliber those are.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

7.62mm General Electric SUU-11A miniguns.

73GIAP_Milan
04-09-2004, 04:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>"Flying Boxcar", can't remember the designation number, for the same purpose. Really an awesome sight to see 2 or 3 of them go to work at night.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe they were AC-97 Flying Boxcar's..

with them 7,62MM General Electric SUU11 Miniguns and later on also 40 and 50 MM BOFORS cannons were added, just as 12,7MM or 20MM Miniguns on the Hercules 'Spectre' gunships..

The Modded C47's also got company often from "GABBY" PSYWAR C47's..
They had signal lights and radios, and dared the enemy down below to fire at them, if they did, the Wrath of God would decent on em, fulfilled by the gunship flying behind the "Gabby"....

Regards,

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