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RevvinUK
05-09-2004, 05:01 AM
Would you like all the programmability and durability that CH has become renowned for in a twist stick format? CH has a poll running at The CH Hangar (http://www.ch-hangar.com/) asking just that, just go to the link above and vote away, no need to register.

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RevvinUK
05-09-2004, 05:01 AM
Would you like all the programmability and durability that CH has become renowned for in a twist stick format? CH has a poll running at The CH Hangar (http://www.ch-hangar.com/) asking just that, just go to the link above and vote away, no need to register.

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arcadeace
05-09-2004, 05:22 AM
Thanks for bringing it up, I'll go and vote. I wish they'd make a poll to ask what lefties want http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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resev
05-09-2004, 05:41 AM
Voted yes.
As much as i would like to have the full CH setup (Joy, Trot, Peds), i have to face the music, and realise that i don't have enough dosh to spare for it all, and i don't want something so spartan and flimsy like Saitek.

So, what's the point of buying one thing at a time?
If i buy the joy, i won't have rudder action, and all the buttons are heavily concentrated on the stick itself, so there will be little modularity, unless the full set is aquired.

Having twist rudder action, with fairly tight springs, would be bliss.
It would allow me to enjoy CH quality, while at the same time i gathered enough money to buy the full set, without having to compromise with lower quality products during that period.

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lindyman
05-09-2004, 06:16 AM
Since I use pedals, I can't say I do.

I wish they'd make a single engine throttle quad, though, with the mandatory 3 levers, perhaps a few extra levers thrown in for kicks (trims and flaps come to mind,) and a forrest of buttons and flip switches.
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LeadSpitter_
05-09-2004, 06:22 AM
Depends on how sturdy the twist is, and making an option to be able to tighten it after time which all twists seem to get play in them.

I just preordered the CH 6 engine trottle hotas the other day

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Chuck_Older
05-09-2004, 06:50 AM
On a twist stick, how can you guys apply full right rudder while pulling up and rolling left? My elbow would have to occupy the space my ribcage likes to use http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif I can't stand a twist grip if something better is available. Just an opinion but the twist grip is very limiting

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Lav69
05-09-2004, 09:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by resev:
Voted yes.
As much as i would like to have the full CH setup (Joy, Trot, Peds), i have to face the music, and realise that i don't have enough dosh to spare for it all, and i don't want something so spartan and flimsy like Saitek.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The x45 is hardly flimsy....if anything its a little to beefy. You must have small hands.

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Heavy_Weather
05-09-2004, 09:23 AM
this is really a question about affordability. this idea would be great for those who really dont have the cash to shell out for throttles and pedals and would prolly be a great buy, but those of us who use the throttles and pedals dont wont to give up all those programmable buttons on the throttle not to mention the Ch Pro rudder pedals, from which you can configure for use of not only rudders but flaps and brakes.

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TooCooL34
05-09-2004, 10:35 AM
Got my CH pro pedals USB 3 days ago.
I won't vote. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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BlitzPig_DDT
05-09-2004, 11:04 AM
Twisty sticks are EVIL!......EEEVILLLLL!

lol They just suck (IMNSHO). Better to use the keyboard. But really, if yer gonna sim fairly often, it's well worth the investment of the best rig available, the TM Cougar HOTAS. Grab a set of rudder pedals off of eBay or sacrifice a cheapy stick and make your own (very easy), plug 'em right into the Cougar and you have only 1 controller as far as windows is concerned and it'll work with any sim, even older ones. And nothing comes close to it's programmability. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by arcadeace:
Thanks for bringing it up, I'll go and vote. I wish they'd make a poll to ask what lefties want http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just use the right hand sticks like the rest of us. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Do you put the mouse on the left hand side too? lol

(I too am a lefty, eat, write and shoot left handed (including rifles and bows), throw, and even primarily bat left handed, but, out of necessity adapted to a right hand mouse, and right hand flight stick. Am even a right handed shot in hockey for much the same reason. Feels weird now to try that stuff left handed. lol)

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XyZspineZyX
05-09-2004, 11:07 AM
Why would CH want to sully their name by producing such a TOY???

Twisty sticks are evil and wrong.

Get some rudder pedals and get on with it!!

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heywooood
05-09-2004, 11:17 AM
"twisty sticks are evil and wrong..."

Based on that - I voted yes on CH twisty stick.

meh.. my ol' sidewinder II wont last forever..but it still has good spring in it now..

RevvinUK
05-09-2004, 12:39 PM
I'm a rudder pedals and HOTAS guy myself but there is a market for those type of sticks and perhaps there's a dweeb or two Boeing and Sikorsky as the RAH-66 Commanche was going to incorporate a twist stick system instead of rudder pedals, or perhaps the reason for the project being cancelled was that they realised twist sticks were indeed evil http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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TgD Thunderbolt56
05-09-2004, 12:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by arcadeace:
Thanks for bringing it up, I'll go and vote. I wish they'd make a poll to ask what lefties want http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
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Aint that the truth. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif



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davstub
05-09-2004, 01:18 PM
What we really need from CH is a well engineered force feed-back stick.

ElAurens
05-09-2004, 01:52 PM
OK, I use the full CH setup, and no, I did not buy it all at once. Here is what you do.

1. Purchase the Pro Throttle first. It will work with your current joystick, and guve you many more options than your stick alone.

2. Next get the Pro Pedals. Again they will work with you current stick.

3. Finally, get your Fighterstick USB.

Using this plan you can upgrade as money is available, and benefit from the individual pieces.

And remember, with the Cougar, you have just begun to spend money... Oh, and if you do get a Cougar, invest in a good took kit as well, you will need it.

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Usberet
05-09-2004, 01:57 PM
Why exactly are all the CH products so expensive?


sure I'll get the "Because they are reliable blah blah blah" Any specs or anything?

lbhskier37
05-09-2004, 02:01 PM
Twist sticks are so weird for rudder. They almost make you forget about rudder and definitly limit its use. I like my saiteks rudder on the throttle, much better control than on the stick imho because your stick inputs are completely uncoupled from rudder inputs. That said, I would much rather have peddals, but alas, I am a poor college kidhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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lbhskier37
05-09-2004, 02:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Usberet:
Why exactly are all the CH products so expensive?


sure I'll get the "Because they are reliable blah blah blah" Any specs or anything?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Because they are built descently. I have had logitech(****), microsoft(slightly less crappy), and saitek(wears out) sticks and none come close to the quality feel I have when trying out CH stuff. Those things are supposed to last forever.

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Cajun76
05-09-2004, 02:24 PM
So far I prefer my rudder on the throttle, like the TM Top Gun AfterBurners and the X-45. Uncomfortable hand postion on the X-45, though.

I don't like the twist rudder sticks, but a rudder rocker is the way to go if your floor space, budget, computer desk/table and other things make a pedal setup hard to do. I voted yes, but I'm going to leave a comment about the rudder bar on the throttle.

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mortoma
05-09-2004, 04:43 PM
Why would anybody want a twist stick when they can have rudder pedals?? The only excuse for not having rudder pedals that I can think of is if someone had too little space under their desk!
If you can afford a computer surely you can afford a set of pedals. And my CH pedals have lasted two years so far under rugged usage. They pay for themselves in longevity and by making your aircraft sim more realistic. Just get pedals like everybody else who is serious about sims. I am going to go to their website just to vote no for twist sticks.....

FunYun46
05-09-2004, 07:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by davstub:
What we really need from CH is a well engineered force feed-back stick.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly. If they want to make an improvement, that's the way to do it. Oh, and a smaller handle on the fighterstick so I can use the hat without straining myself. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

lil_labbit
05-09-2004, 07:56 PM
I bet they will come up with a simular design as the cyborg evo by saitek...

Why not buy that one LOL

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Hristo_
05-09-2004, 11:48 PM
As long as it doesn't affect their 'normal' range of joysticks, fine with me.