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evecomm
06-28-2004, 04:22 AM
I've only been playing Flight Sims for a year or so, and the only one I still play is IL2. I pushed the boat out and ordered a Track IR3 Pro from the states from Edimensional. Cost about 95 inc del. It took a week to come and is the best toy I own. As far as I'm concerned this thing rocks, if you haven't got one you're really missing out. It makes the game 10x more realistic and alot more enjoyable. Imagine what you think it's like and you're not even close. Do yourself a favour just get one and then think why didn't I do this a long time ago.

Rossi

evecomm
06-28-2004, 04:22 AM
I've only been playing Flight Sims for a year or so, and the only one I still play is IL2. I pushed the boat out and ordered a Track IR3 Pro from the states from Edimensional. Cost about 95 inc del. It took a week to come and is the best toy I own. As far as I'm concerned this thing rocks, if you haven't got one you're really missing out. It makes the game 10x more realistic and alot more enjoyable. Imagine what you think it's like and you're not even close. Do yourself a favour just get one and then think why didn't I do this a long time ago.

Rossi

Relant2000
06-28-2004, 04:37 AM
I've been a flight sim nut since the days of spitfire ace on the commodore 64. Remember those? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
But i agree totally about TrackIR. I just bought mine recently too, and the level of realism it adds is amazing.
It's so much more realistic and user friendly than the padlock system.
If I can't use it in future flight sims, then I won't buy the sim, no matter how good it is.
That's how strongly I feel about TrackIR.

TgD Thunderbolt56
06-28-2004, 07:07 AM
Welcome to the club. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

It's hard to explain the value and immersion that TIR offers. I simply tell everyone who's interested in flight sims that it's a must-have.

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CDN_Merlin
06-28-2004, 07:13 AM
It also works in the upcoming Racing Sim called GTR from SIMBIN. I plan on buying it soon. I play IL2 and GTR and can't wait to try this out.

Beta tester for:
C&C Generals, Independance War 2,Starfleet Command 2,Settlers IV,Tzar,Allegiance,Starfleet Command,MAX 2,Defiance

F19_Ob
06-28-2004, 07:13 AM
Im gona get this....but first....
1 loads of cash, Where?
2 lots of ram
3 new graphics card
4 new bigger screen
5 new system....... he he!
6 explain why I scream strange things by night when my neighbours knock on the door.

RAAF_Edin
06-28-2004, 07:22 AM
I got the TrackIR 3 Pro just a few days ago (from eDimensional also) and I am really happy with the purchase. I was thinking of getting it for some time now and I even tried the first version (a while ago now) when I got it for my friend, although I didn't quite like it at the time.

Without any bull**** I am suprised how quickly I got used to it and now I feel it really is becoming like a second nature to look around with my head rather then a HAT switch (not to mention there's more buttons available for the HAT also http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif )

Anyway, I am not telling anyone to go get it... just if someone is interested in user's opinion... well this was mine http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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hughlb2
06-28-2004, 07:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by F19_Ob:
Im gona get this....but first....
1 loads of cash, Where?
2 lots of ram
3 new graphics card
4 new bigger screen
5 new system....... he he!
6 explain why I scream strange things by night when my neighbours knock on the door.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm in the same boat, Track IR is one of those things that is in a constant struggle to reach the top of the "to get" list.

I have to get a new rig + stick/throttle/pedals first and then we'll see. But I do know I am missing outhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

maxim26
06-28-2004, 07:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CDN_Merlin:
It also works in the upcoming Racing Sim called GTR from SIMBIN. I plan on buying it soon. I play IL2 and GTR and can't wait to try this out.

Beta tester for:
C&C Generals, Independance War 2,Starfleet Command 2,Settlers IV,Tzar,Allegiance,Starfleet Command,MAX 2,Defiance<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I tryed it in GTR demo also. Its great to have a racing sim with track ir support.

yarbles67
06-28-2004, 09:14 AM
No doubt about that. Anybody that sims more than say, 10 hours a week should get it. Flying with the hat switch once you taste a TiR is like being handicapped.

Aero_Shodanjo
06-28-2004, 09:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hughlb2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by F19_Ob:
Im gona get this....but first....
1 loads of cash, Where?
2 lots of ram
3 new graphics card
4 new bigger screen
5 new system....... he he!
6 explain why I scream strange things by night when my neighbours knock on the door.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm in the same boat, Track IR is one of those things that is in a constant struggle to reach the top of the "to get" list.

I have to get a new rig + stick/throttle/pedals first and then we'll see. But I do know I am missing outhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Still got room for me in your boat? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Got a P4 2Ghz, 512 MB PC 2100, and (yuck!) GF FX5200.

Hopefully I can upgrade to - atleast - FX 5700 or (better, i think) R 9600 sometimes next month, then switch to 1Gig (2 x 512 MB PC 3200), and - well - 2,8 Mhz P4.

Lots of improvements and upgrades needed, cash lacking - as always http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/cry.gif

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MEGILE
06-28-2004, 09:57 AM
hmmmmm http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif is it just me or does the first and second post look just a tad like pre-made posts written to post on the forum as an advert....specificaly aimed at promoting the product and starting a delightful conversation about it..
just seems a little too perfect to me

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I've only been playing Flight Sims for a year or so, and the only one I still play is IL2. I pushed the boat out and ordered a Track IR3 Pro from the states from Edimensional. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

gimme a break

both accounts registerd this month with only a couple of posts..
LOL im probably totaly wrong, just read them they seem like SELL SELL SELL! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

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patch_adams
06-28-2004, 10:12 AM
Ive talked to top aces like GoodKn1ght and some of them say you dont really need it.

evecomm
06-28-2004, 10:33 AM
Yo Col Megile,

Your right partner, it's a fair cop. I parted with a oner of my own cash to buy the thing, to then post a message about how good it is, just to advertise for a company that imports the thing who I've spoke to once (They don't even make it) I believe in giving credit where credits due. As did the other 10 people who posted within 6 hours of mine. Whats up Bro haven't got one? Can't afford it son? Well I can and love it, if it is an advert, then they owe me some . To all the people that talk about RAM, Graphics etc etc. Why spend xxx's on stuff that doesn't make it really look any better, sound any better, when you can spend a oner on something that makes the game play 10x better then the poor mans hat on the unjoyus stick. It's VR to the public, oh gotta go that must be Track IR crew knocking on my door with my 5p for cheque. You Numbty.

Rossi

Hanging Loose and loving it. I might even retire with my 5p cheque. Been a member on this forum for a month, because I haven't had the need to post on the IL2 Forum before, because I'm a normal guy who enjoys playing the game instead of flaming others for trying to help people like you (Well the others, not you) bore off son (I mean who calls them self Colonel and then expects people to take them seriously How old are you 30 - 35 Nice, real nice!)

oeqvist
06-28-2004, 10:34 AM
Yeah come to think of it though it´s hardly needed to advertize TrackIr in these forums it´s like knocking on an open door really.

But there is a GTR demo http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif

CDN_Merlin
06-28-2004, 10:38 AM
Track IR doesn't work in th GTR demo but will work in the full game whih I hope is released by end of summer.

Beta tester for:
C&C Generals, Independance War 2,Starfleet Command 2,Settlers IV,Tzar,Allegiance,Starfleet Command,MAX 2,Defiance

Relant2000
06-28-2004, 11:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MEGILE:
hmmmmm http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif is it just me or does the first and second post look just a tad like pre-made posts written to post on the forum as an advert....specificaly aimed at promoting the product and starting a delightful conversation about it..
just seems a little too perfect to me

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I've only been playing Flight Sims for a year or so, and the only one I still play is IL2. I pushed the boat out and ordered a Track IR3 Pro from the states from Edimensional. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

gimme a break

both accounts registerd this month with only a couple of posts..
LOL im probably totaly wrong, just read them they seem like SELL SELL SELL! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

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Well..It looks like it is just you. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

And why only the first two posts? From what I have read on this post and all the other ones to do with this subject, there seems to be a very strong feeling that this is a must have for any serious sim nut.

Oh, if you want one, I suggest you go to edimensional. Just mention my name and you will get 25% off. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

JG52Uther
06-28-2004, 11:49 AM
There seems to be a hardcore of people in the forums that say they dont want/dont need TiR.Its a free country,do what you want (i love my Tir2) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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HeinzBar
06-28-2004, 11:58 AM
S!,
For me, TIR1 was a waste of money. It is collecting dust as we speak. I did bring it out of closet just a couple of weeks ago after a friend recommended I try it w/ the latest drivers. It seemed to lower my fps, did not return to center as before, and was generally more of a hassle to use. In comparison, the ministick on my CH Pro is far superior. I'm able to track targets w/ greater accuracy and w/o the headache of constantly calibrating an IR device. Just my opinion.

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MEGILE
06-28-2004, 12:36 PM
All right peeps dont get your tampax clogged in your fajita, a bit of Yogurt will get that thing right out...

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TheJoyStick
06-28-2004, 12:57 PM
I looked at one, and thought it was probably some faulty piece of ****, but most people here think differently..


Is it actually worth 100$? Does it lower performance any? How hard is it to maintain? Does it use batteries? Is it very accurate?

ploughman
06-28-2004, 01:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> All right peeps dont get your tampax clogged in your fajita, a bit of Yogurt will get that thing right out... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nice. Real nice.

lucas_valentine
06-28-2004, 01:50 PM
I'll tell you what. I bought TrackIR3 two weeks ago after wanting it for ages. It isn't as easy to get used to as people say here. In fact it can be very difficult to use. The track dots are not big enough and if they are put on a vertical flat surface the device often loses them. The best thing to do is to have a ball reflector like T.O.A.D. has made (sorry I don't have a link to this post but if you look around you will find it). I have a reflective ball and it works much better. Once you have built a better reflector it is almost esential to download one of the profiles on the TrackIR website that has been made for IL2 and has a 'deadzone'. Once these techincal difficulties are out of the way the real difficulty begins...learning to move your head. It is quite progressive, but it takes very little head movement to pan from one side to the other. It takes quite a while to master precision head movements so you see what you want to see. I don't beleive any one has mastered it in ten minutes...I would say it takes a couple of days to get used to and who knows how long to master fully. One thing I would warn the TrackIR newbie about is a stiff neck which you might get for the first couple of days. This is not because you have to move your head frantically all over the place, but you will probably find yourself trying desperatley to look staright ahead without moving, bearing in mind that the slightest movement will having you looking in the wrong direction. This has certainly caused my neck to be a little stiff for a couple of days.

My final point about TrackIR is that if you do not normally fly with cockpit on then it is very difficult to use. Up until getting it I have always not used the cockpit view, and I have found that you cannot tell what direction you are actually looking in like this. Its is almost esential to have cockpit on....which has been a bugger for me 'cos I have had to learn how to fly with big bits of metal in the way and not being able to see down, etc. But I will tell you what...flying with cockpit on is ultimatley more fun and much easier..especially with TrackIR. I never lose sight of an enemy and I can see exactly whats going on all around me all the time!

So, is TrackIR worth the 70 price tag?...yes, every penny..but it is quite a challenge to learn how to use it..its not as easy as they say, but worth it in the end.

GAU-8
06-28-2004, 03:46 PM
stiff necks..hmm...

i probably wont be a statistic then..

being a crotchety rocket rider, i spend most of my time leaning , and looking ahead deep into curves, same as i do in IL2/FB..

if you dont want the stiff neck, may i suggest you purchase a sportbike,so as not to have the sore neck when its trackIR ordering time http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

269GA-Maxmars
06-28-2004, 04:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by maxim26:
I tryed it in GTR demo also. Its great to have a racing sim with track ir support.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How so? The demo is not TIR enabled..

oeqvist
06-28-2004, 04:44 PM
full game will have native trackir support that is officially confirmed.

269GA-Maxmars
06-28-2004, 04:45 PM
Yes, but demo isn't. How could he try it?

jamesdietz
06-28-2004, 05:12 PM
I've had a Track IR2 since New Years & you can look up my thread on the subject - It is simply wonderful & I know my raves might sound like an ad but if you try it & get used to it ( it is a easy learning curve ( you simply can never go back nor would you want to!

Relant2000
06-28-2004, 05:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheJoyStick:
I looked at one, and thought it was probably some faulty piece of ****, but most people here think differently..


Is it actually worth 100$? Does it lower performance any? How hard is it to maintain? Does it use batteries? Is it very accurate?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok here we go..
1: Yes. If you play a lot of flight sims, it is well worth the money

2: I have Tir3 and there seems to be no fps loss at all. I suppose it does use some resources though. But I have 1gig of memory.

3: No maintenance is needed.

4: No batteries needed. Just plugs into a usb port

5: Very accurate. three or four times the resolution of a web cam I think.

Sturtz
06-28-2004, 06:57 PM
I just ordered the Pro3 last week. I've tryed one of my squad mate's TIRs and was surprized how quickly I got use to it.
It does make it all seem more immersive.
I use the full CH Pro USB rig. And the micro stick is also very handy. I use it to locate ground targets when in zoom mode.

From what most folks say about the Pro3. I should be in for a treat.
"When the darn thing gets here that is."

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T_O_A_D
06-28-2004, 07:15 PM
S! evecomm
Welcome aboard!

Now Merlin that is great news! Been wanting a RACE game that supports it. Will this game simulate damage and loss of control and speed for the knuckleheads that drive like ****. So the good drivers who think can still win by runnnig a clean race not a bump and grind?

If so then I'll buy it. I've been playing the demo Live for speed (http://lfs.racesimcentral.com/) off and on and that the only complaint I have about it is the arcade style of driving. And of course no TIR support.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CDN_Merlin:
It also works in the upcoming Racing Sim called GTR from SIMBIN. I plan on buying it soon. I play IL2 and GTR and can't wait to try this out.

Beta tester for:
C&C Generals, Independance War 2,Starfleet Command 2,Settlers IV,Tzar,Allegiance,Starfleet Command,MAX 2,Defiance<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Have you checked your Private Topics recently? (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=ugtpc&s=400102)
My TrackIR fix, Read the whole thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p=1)
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WTE_Galway
06-28-2004, 07:23 PM
I still use the original track IR and its pretty good

You do need to set it up right with no reflecting objects or light sources like windows behind you


makes circuits, landings, tracking bombers in B&Z and ground attack much much easier

As far as performance goes my experience is it does not effect FPS at all ... but if you get into intense action like an online dogfight the trackIR itself can occasionally lag a bit

Locust_
06-28-2004, 08:46 PM
Jeez I gota get one of these

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Hiriyu
06-28-2004, 10:01 PM
I've had TIR2 for only about two weeks now, but you'd have to drag me kicking and screaming back to the hatswitch at this point. In fact, like many in this thread, I feel that my future sim purchases may be dictated by native TIR support.

It took me only a short time, maybe a couple of evenings, to get TIR2 set up properly, and I found the tweaking process in software fairly simple. Initially, I tried some downloaded profiles (Charvel's among others), but quickly found that it really is necessary to create your own settings specific to your hardware and ergonomic needs. Fortunately, it's quite easy to do (RTFM).

Given a good setup, the device is very easy to get used to, and quickly becomes "invisible" to the player. I've had no issues with stiff or strained neck, and find it easy to maintain view control (hint for other beginners: use a very wide and gently curved [read slow] deadzone setting to start with).

As for the folks who doubt TIR's abilities, well, http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/cry.gif

evecomm
06-29-2004, 03:45 AM
If you're like me, as soon as you get it you plug the thing in and just give it a whirl. After a couple of hours you know things need to be changed, you will get a stiff neck whilst trying to keep still in the deadzone, but I found a simple custom setup really opens the whole thing up. I still have a small deadzone, 0 @ 0 and 2 @ 0, 3 @ 5 and so on creating a nice curve (those figures are near but a guess) until I found myself having to move my head too much to get the rear view. I then made the last half of the curve steeper, this is now how i like it and found that within 1 day it is to quote one guy 'invisible' I can only speak for the IR3 Pro but I have no lag or lowered FPS, but like another guy I have over a 2 Legs of Lamb I mean RAM and a 256Mb FX5950 ultra so it'll always run sweet. As for cost, is it really that much of a cost? How much have you spent on the game 35 AEP 15 Joystick 100 Like one guy said an 'Ace http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif' said you don't need it to play' Well of course you don't, you don't need a joystick when you can use the keyboard, but hey you've all got one, because it's more realstic more imersion - Is that why we bought the game in the first place to get as close as we can without the ability to do it for real?

delta_9_tetra
06-29-2004, 04:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by maxmars:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by maxim26:
I tryed it in GTR demo also. Its great to have a racing sim with track ir support.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How so? The demo is not TIR enabled..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The demo is trackIR enabled. The demo however only uses mouse emulation mode rather than the enhanced mode which will be included in the final release.

Tully__
06-29-2004, 04:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MEGILE:
hmmmmm http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif is it just me or does the first and second post look just a tad like pre-made posts written to post on the forum as an advert....specificaly aimed at promoting the product and starting a delightful conversation about it..
just seems a little too perfect to me

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I've only been playing Flight Sims for a year or so, and the only one I still play is IL2. I pushed the boat out and ordered a Track IR3 Pro from the states from Edimensional. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

gimme a break

both accounts registerd this month with only a couple of posts..
LOL im probably totaly wrong, just read them they seem like SELL SELL SELL! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

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Tully__
06-29-2004, 04:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by patch_adams:
Ive talked to top aces like GoodKn1ght and some of them say you dont really need it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

patch_adams, private topic (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=25510001&m=167104115&r=167104115#167104115)

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Tully__
06-29-2004, 04:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by maxmars:
Yes, but demo isn't. How could he try it?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Does the demo support mouse view? He may have been using Mouse Emulation mode.

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06-29-2004, 07:02 AM
Once you get the set-up that suits you - it's the best thing after the J/S.

You do have to find that set-up though ...

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JG5_UnKle
06-29-2004, 07:37 AM
Had my TIR1 for ages now, got one early.

You need a good profile with a big deadzone. After takeoff (where I sit comfy and centre it) you should't need to recalibrate it unless you fall of your chair or something http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif.

I sit on a swivel chair (not good) and like to move around a bit (Like ducking really helps... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif) and I still manage to use it really well.

Have the highest refresh rate you can mange and make sure V-Sync is enabled to reduce "tearing" and you are away.

Practice offline on bombers and try racing through a formation keeping your eye on a bomber. Practice for a few hours and move on to smaller fighters and try some close-in slow dogfights http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif

When you can keep track you are ready to go online or whatever and you shouldn't be too frustrated. It can be tricky to pick up but it takes a little practice.

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michapma
06-29-2004, 07:54 AM
I really enjoyed reading lucas_valentine's post. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lucas_valentine:
Its is almost esential to have cockpit on....which has been a bugger for me 'cos I have had to learn how to fly with big bits of metal in the way and not being able to see down, etc. But I will tell you what...flying with cockpit on is ultimatley more fun and much easier..especially with TrackIR.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I do still get a stiff neck after a couple hours of flying.

I had a lot of trouble learning to use TrackIR. I got it when I had IL-2 but actually put it down after a week or two and didn't use it again until FB. With the special tracking mode and deadzone it started being workable for me, and after getting a dot pattern that was more trackable, it became much better and I couldn't get along without it. I do still sometimes have trouble with it, and have to fly logged in as admin. I'd like to try the TIR3, but I can't believe the difference would be worth paying the price again.

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SeaFireLIV
06-29-2004, 08:04 AM
The hardest part in using TIR was just training my head to it. Using the DEADZONE profile really helped, now I`ve progressed on to the linear profile (slighly modified).

I also actually had a sore neck for a couple of weeks too.

Interestingly, I find I tend to turn my head or even duck when i think i`m about to collided with an aircraft! Did I do this before, I wonder? The difference is before the screen view didn`t DUCK or look away with me!

Regarding this, as anyone noticed that if you turn away your view in a collision your pilot tends not to die, even if the plane gets really battered? I have had some collisions which would normally destroy me, but after looking away i`m still alive and able to bail from my wreck!

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michapma
06-29-2004, 08:50 AM
SeaFire, you collide with things in the air??? Why? That's just not healthy, man.

I thought I should mention that the stiffness I still get in my neck is probably due to using a swivel chair, and having my desktop too high...

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BigDukeSixx
06-29-2004, 10:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
So, is TrackIR worth the 70 price tag?...yes, every penny..but it is quite a challenge to learn how to use it..its not as easy as they say, but worth it in the end.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought it was a piece of pi** to learn.

Bearcat99
06-29-2004, 03:00 PM
My 2C.... f you are happy with everything else on your rig and you are looking for the icing on the cake... get TIR, by all means. If there are more important things like RAM,a better CPU or a video card you need by all means do that first. TIR is good for immersion.... it does hit performance slightly..in perfect... at least on my 2.1GHZ rig with my 9800Pro & 1G of DDR400. In excellent it is smooth.. If you feel you cant afford it but yoiy want a better viewing solution then consider killing several birds with one stone by getting a X45 ad using its mouse pan view. It is very good and IMO the next best thing to TIR.

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SeaFireLIV
06-29-2004, 05:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by michapma:
SeaFire, you collide with things in the air??? Why? That's just not healthy, man.

I thought I should mention that the stiffness I still get in my neck is probably due to using a swivel chair, and having my desktop too high...

_<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lol. I don`t mean to collide- honest!
Interesting, I use a swivel chair too. maybe I`ll try a fixed chair.

WTE_Galway
06-29-2004, 11:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>


Regarding this, as anyone noticed that if you turn away your view in a collision your pilot tends not to die, even if the plane gets really battered? I have had some collisions which would normally destroy me, but after looking away i`m still alive and able to bail from my wreck!

SeaFireLIV...

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commonly known as the Ostrich effect http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

a more rational explanation .. without trackir you get target focus and plough straight into the enemy .. with trackir as you look away you also tend to swirve deflecting away and causing less damage