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SodBuster43
05-15-2004, 03:35 PM
Well, now that I have my game running top notch again I have been able to get more online kills. The online lagg has virtually been eliminated for me and the aircraft now fly much better. Offline is a dream except the 50 cals and other MG's are still not good.

Today I tried something new on WAR_CLOUDS. I flew a P-51 and set my WEP to 103% as someone once mentioned as an exploit.

Wallah !!! I flew my crate for 30 minutes and was able to keep up with and outfly two Luftwaffe aircraft. The 109 which I damaged flew into a cloud and a teammate got him and I downed a FW-190 shortly after this. I was able to achieve around 520kph in level flight. The overheat light finally came on but the thing just kept going and going and going. Finally I landed but was not honored with my kill points even though it said I shot him down.

Now I know why in some cases these darn planes seem to be flying circles around myself and others and at times I cannot even hold formation with my own teamates who regularly outclimb and outpace me. THIS EXPLOIT AS WELL AS ANY OTHERS MUST BE SQUASHED!

One more thing, I watched the History Channel segment on the P-51 yesterday. According to that guncam footage these FW-190's and bf-109's should be going down in flames. They showed footage from both P-51's and P-47's. The luftwaffe planes were being ripped to pieces and exploding in fireballs.

[This message was edited by SodBuster43 on Sat May 15 2004 at 02:49 PM.]

SodBuster43
05-15-2004, 03:35 PM
Well, now that I have my game running top notch again I have been able to get more online kills. The online lagg has virtually been eliminated for me and the aircraft now fly much better. Offline is a dream except the 50 cals and other MG's are still not good.

Today I tried something new on WAR_CLOUDS. I flew a P-51 and set my WEP to 103% as someone once mentioned as an exploit.

Wallah !!! I flew my crate for 30 minutes and was able to keep up with and outfly two Luftwaffe aircraft. The 109 which I damaged flew into a cloud and a teammate got him and I downed a FW-190 shortly after this. I was able to achieve around 520kph in level flight. The overheat light finally came on but the thing just kept going and going and going. Finally I landed but was not honored with my kill points even though it said I shot him down.

Now I know why in some cases these darn planes seem to be flying circles around myself and others and at times I cannot even hold formation with my own teamates who regularly outclimb and outpace me. THIS EXPLOIT AS WELL AS ANY OTHERS MUST BE SQUASHED!

One more thing, I watched the History Channel segment on the P-51 yesterday. According to that guncam footage these FW-190's and bf-109's should be going down in flames. They showed footage from both P-51's and P-47's. The luftwaffe planes were being ripped to pieces and exploding in fireballs.

[This message was edited by SodBuster43 on Sat May 15 2004 at 02:49 PM.]

KGr.HH-Sunburst
05-15-2004, 04:25 PM
hey that was just now right ?
i was there to waving at your P47 in my mustang http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

the 50call do plenty damage on 109s a good deflection burst nocks a 109 out of action
now try to rip a P51 apart with 2 mk108s as it should not to even talk about the 20mm 151.
but this weapon damage on planes is a Bug and will be fixed in the patch http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

as far as the throttle exploit i dunno what radiator settings did u used ?
i know in a stang with rads open and going about 500kph will keep the engine cool for a very long time it almost doesnt overheat
and this 103% throttle setting can be done on other planes aswell without or almost no overheat

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Jaws2002
05-15-2004, 04:38 PM
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Charos
05-15-2004, 05:18 PM
Im confused - Is the MG151/20 and perhaps other weapons being altered in the patch?

When this Issue was Raised after AEP Came out Oleg stated that all was fine and there was nothing Wrong.

Is it now being altered in the Patch - Is something NOW Wrong?

SodBuster43
05-15-2004, 05:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jaws2002:
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http://www.slightlywarped.com/forumpictures/newbie/grrrrrnewbie!.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You smell a newbie? Go take a long shower http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif

Copperhead310th
05-15-2004, 05:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jaws2002:
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http://www.slightlywarped.com/forumpictures/newbie/grrrrrnewbie!.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ummm look who's talking with 238 posts. lol http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Jaws2002
05-15-2004, 05:34 PM
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Jaws2002
05-15-2004, 05:36 PM
Yup. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif... but check the date http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

Jaws2002
05-15-2004, 05:43 PM
Don't mind me. I'm just fooling around. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

Chuck_Older
05-15-2004, 06:45 PM
Do not believe everything you see on TV, SodBuster http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The cam footage of German planes going down in flames was specifically chosen for dramatic effect, have no doubt

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SodBuster43
05-15-2004, 07:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Do not believe everything you see on TV, SodBuster http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The cam footage of German planes going down in flames was specifically chosen for dramatic effect, have no doubt<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

But it did happen otherwise no cam footage. I have yet to really flame a 190 with AEP. They seem to absorb an enormous amount of damage and keep flying circles. They even end up shooting me down when they should been long gone. Sometimes they go down nicely but nothing like the gun cam footage http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Jaws2002
05-15-2004, 07:17 PM
Try to fly them for few days. Specially on W.C. and see for yourself. They are not UFO's.

SodBuster43
05-15-2004, 07:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jaws2002:
Try to fly them for few days. Specially on W.C. and see for yourself. They are not UFO's.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who said anything about UFO's. This is not a post about UFO's. It is a post about exploits in the game which I am quite positive many people use regularly. I have flown 190's and 109's and not been able to keep up with allied planes as well. I have been trying this WEP exploit offline and it works nicely. Tried it on the P-47 and FW-190 and both work equally well without overheating. The advantage here is quite clear...more speed all around.

Until this point I did not use these exploits. I have confirmed what others have claimed and flown planes with WEP enabled for extended periods of time. On war clouds I flew the P-51 for more than 30 minutes full tilt. I also shot down one plane and assisted in another without so much as a scratch. A definate advantage here.

The only way to be sure you are on equal terms is to use this exploit yourself http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

FI-Aflak
05-15-2004, 07:48 PM
Will you explain the nature of this exploit?

A P-51 should outfly and outrun a 109 and most 190s . . . . .

SodBuster43
05-15-2004, 08:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FI-Aflak:
Will you explain the nature of this exploit?

A P-51 should outfly and outrun a 109 and most 190s . . . . .<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess noone reads anything before adding their two cents worth. I have been guilty of this as well.

My suggestion is to reread my first comments about being able to use WEP without burning up your engine. I flew a P-51 and many other planes for extended periods of time without any damage to my engine. This could result in a distinct advantage over players flying by the book.

ColoradoBBQ
05-15-2004, 09:07 PM
Yeah, Chuck_Older, they never show any guncam films from allied crafts that were shot down by the Axis.

VW-IceFire
05-15-2004, 09:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Charos:
Im confused - Is the MG151/20 and perhaps other weapons being altered in the patch?

When this Issue was Raised after AEP Came out Oleg stated that all was fine and there was nothing Wrong.

Is it now being altered in the Patch - Is something NOW Wrong?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes they are...the few leaks that have come out suggest that .50 cal dispersion is down and thus less spray and more concentration (which will put the weapon into that level of effectivness to produce results similar to the average guncamera shot - not every plane is going to go down in flaming wreckage).

Also the MG151/20 was not changed by Oleg but there are apparently some issues with the explosions not being counted. So thus Oleg is right and everyone else is also right. I also imagine this applies to the MK108 which relies on the explosive power for its damage.

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JG27_Aristo
05-15-2004, 10:13 PM
sod the 109 and the p-51 weps are totally differant.in the p-51 war power is just running the engine above the rated power,the mechanics used to strech a wire at the 100% mark.if it was found broken they knew to check the engine carefully.the 109 wep is a methanol water mix that will buen up the engine in a short while if kept engaged.a good 109 er will keep it just under 100%and close rads as this will almost equal the boosted speed in a chase ,and will only open wep to close that last little bit of distance.but as soon as your done you must open rads and back off to cool her.
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Charos
05-15-2004, 10:39 PM
RGR - Thanks for clearing that up IceFire

NegativeGee
05-16-2004, 01:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Also the MG151/20 was not changed by Oleg but there are apparently some issues with the explosions not being counted. So thus Oleg is right and everyone else is also right. I also imagine this applies to the MK108 which relies on the explosive power for its damage.
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Good thing that didn't bar that problem from being fixed http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Charos
05-16-2004, 01:09 AM
Not that OTHER Issue -- Thats all over BAR the Shouting. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif


Mention it again and Youll be BAR'ed from the Forum.