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Xnomad
01-18-2004, 04:40 AM
Do any of you know how to create a dead zone on the toe brakes?

I have got a script which maps the toe breaks to the "V" axis so that both work (before only one would activate the brake)

I have set a 50% dead zone on the V axis but th brakes are still activated by the slightest touch.

Another question: What settings have you dialed in for Yaw in FB?

Xnomad
01-18-2004, 04:40 AM
Do any of you know how to create a dead zone on the toe brakes?

I have got a script which maps the toe breaks to the "V" axis so that both work (before only one would activate the brake)

I have set a 50% dead zone on the V axis but th brakes are still activated by the slightest touch.

Another question: What settings have you dialed in for Yaw in FB?

T_O_A_D
01-18-2004, 05:30 AM
Do it in the game set the dead zones the forst 3 or 4 sliders to zero. In the imput section.
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pacettid
01-18-2004, 05:45 AM
As a CH pro pedals owner, would love to know how you managed to get both toe brakes to work in FB. You mention a "script"...could you expand on that please?

Donald N Pacetti

x6BL_Brando
01-18-2004, 06:02 AM
"I have got a script which maps the toe breaks to the "V" axis so that both work (before only one would activate the brake)"

Presumably you know that there is still only one command issued, i.e to both brakes on the a/c? Do you mean that your brakes lock up instantly when you depress a pedal, even slightly? Are you using the CH software, you mention a scripted command?

There is the facility to control input to these axes in the CH Control Manager interface - presuming that works with scripted commands.

Thinking laterally - have you tried adjusting your physical positioning - seating and the relative placement of the pedals can help avoid the accidental pedal-push as you try to stay centred up the runway at scramble! I use a low, fixed car seat and my pedals are actually inclined up about 5 degrees - but then I am a little crazy about FB! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I've never had any trouble just using the one pedal configured thro' the FB Hotas - if anything they're a bit weak.

Xnomad
01-18-2004, 07:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pacettid:
As a CH pro pedals owner, would love to know how you managed to get both toe brakes to work in FB. You mention a "script"...could you expand on that please?

Donald N Pacetti<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yup, I have the map to download if you want it.

http://www.xnomad.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/xnomad.map

You can load it in your CH Control Manager. Put the map and the scipt:

http://www.xnomad.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/xnomad.cms

in your map folder e.g.
C:\Program Files\CH Products\Control Manager\Maps

I ripped this map/script off the CH IL2 Script from the CH website and removed all the other controllers as I only have the pedals.

My mapping will only work if you only have Pedals from CH if you have another controller then the JS numbering in the script could be different JS1 is the first controller after "Program Settings" Tab

Here is the script for those scared that I am posting viruses: http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

script
IF ([JS1.A1 &gt; JS1.A2]) then // LEFT OR RIGHT TOE BRAKES
CMS.A1 = JS1.A1;
ELSE
CMS.A1 = JS1.A2;
endif
endScript

Basically whichever brake is pushed more takes control of the braking function.

Xnomad
01-18-2004, 07:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by x6BL_Brando:


Presumably you know that there is still only one command issued, i.e to both brakes on the a/c? Do you mean that your brakes lock up instantly when you depress a pedal, even slightly? Are you using the CH software, you mention a scripted command?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My brakes don't lock up it's just that I am an awful newbie with these pedals still http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I only got them on Wednesday.

So if I'm landing with the Fw 190 and I have to correct with the rudder I somtimes apply the brakes by accident in the heat of the moment and I'm close to nosing over into the dirt. Although I am getting better with the pedals and this hasn't happened for a while.

I do get the squeaking of the brakes when taxing because I, by accident, ever so slightly, have stepped on the brakes, it doesn't slow me down that much it just annoys me that's all http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The setting of a dead zone in the CH manager for the V axis should really do the trick but it doesn't http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

westcoastphil
01-18-2004, 10:14 AM
Toad,
Thanks for posting that profile. I was/am having all kinds of nose overs and landing problems. Also found out that my pedals were out of calibration. No wonder I'm getting killed all the time.

I still don't understand the way the profile works. I saw the example in Mudmovers, but I couldn't make sense of it and it wasn't applicable to my stick, a CH Flightstick pro. Can anyone give some advice?

Thanks

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GoodKn1ght
01-18-2004, 12:01 PM
my advice is to set ur yaw numbers to all 100s as well as pitch. my roll settings start at 55 and work their way up to 100. As a pro pedals and fighterstick owner id have to say that a deadzone is a bad idea.

"Friends don't let friends fly arcade"

horseback
01-18-2004, 03:37 PM
Sounds like the toebrake issue is a matter of sensitivity in the Control Manager profile, because I mapped the right toebrake axis as Brakes (in the game) and it gives me a gradually increasing brake pressure. If, however, it was mapped as a switch in Control Manager and an ON/OFF brakes button, Bad Things can happen.

Cheers

horseback

"Here's your new Mustangs, boys. You can learn to fly'em on the way to the target. Cheers!" -LTCOL Don Blakeslee, 4th FG CO, February 27th, 1944

T_O_A_D
01-18-2004, 11:12 PM
I have mine matched up with a x-45 stick. So I used the deadzone in the game. Are you able to use the CH proggy along with the Saitek profiler? Have both running at the same time? I tried it a long time ago and wasn't able to or figure out how to use the ch proggy for just the pedals. The game see's my pedals as controller #1 and my x-45 as controler #2 so I have to set the deadbnds and other settings for stick in the config file of the game. The game interface only works for controler#1

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My TrackIR fix, Read the whole thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p=1)
2.11 drivers (http://home.mchsi.com/~131st-vfw/NaturalPoint_trackIR_2_11.exe)
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