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Sasquatch.511
12-14-2015, 07:30 PM
Hello, I have been thoroughly enjoying rainbow six siege, aside from some of the connectivity issues(which I am confident will be fixed in the coming patches) I only have one suggestion for the game. The only thing that dissapointed me about siege is that all of the operators are wearing outdated tactical gear. They have modern devices and equipment but the tactical gear is out of the 90's. I have attached a few images of counter terrorism and SWAT units below as examples of modern tactical gear. Spetzanz and GIGN look good but FBI SWAT, GSG9, and SAS could have the character models updated to reflect more modern units. Below that I put some examples for new units to be added to the game. Anyone else agree with me that the tactical gear should be updated for some of the units? Have any ideas for the next operators to be put in the game? Post your thoughts below, thank you.

Disclaimer: I am not a member of an elite counterterrorism unit. I do not know everything about them, these are just sugestions. Also I would like to thank all veterans for their service

FBI Tactical Operations/SWAT:
http://www.americanspecialops.com/images/photos/law-enforcement/fbi-swat-dallas.jpg

https://www.fbi.gov/portland/news-and-outreach/stories/image/swat-team-members-on-ship

http://www.americanspecialops.com/images/photos/law-enforcement/fbi-swat-photo.jpg

http://defense-update.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/fbi_tacteam_boston650.jpg

SAS:
http://41.media.tumblr.com/9d9511284c9c863c67411bb721b24574/tumblr_nmaf0wVSQR1u88kyzo1_1280.jpg

http://i0.wp.com/www.whaleoil.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/SAS-Baddass.jpg

The above images are from what appear to be foriegn deployments for a domestic operation similar to the Iranian Embassy siege they might use something similar to the following

http://www.defensereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/British_Scotland_Yard_Counterterrorism_SWAT_Unit_A rmed_with_SIG516_SIG_516_Assault_Tactical_AR_Carbi ne_SBR_Short_Barreled_Rifle_and_Glock_17_G17_or_Gl ock_19_G19_Pistol_Daily_Mail_3-660x330.jpg

https://s.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/BE1H8liLpz1jzQ9exdXvxA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD00MDA7aWw9cGxhbmU7cT 03NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/848a0c4226104431680f6a7067004fe6.jpg

http://www.itstactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/0432.jpg

Or possibly the new multicam black pattern such as the following

http://imgdump1.novarata.net/image.php?di=LTEC

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/42/4d/90/424d90a3aec4fbaf7a61dd03704d2074.jpg

GSG9:

http://www.special-ops.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/gsg-9-training.jpg

http://sofrep.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/gsg9.jpg

http://cdn.kizaz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/gsg-9-germany.jpg

http://img.welt.de/img/deutschland/crop109460615/3016939339-ci3x2l-w900/GSG-9-Jubilaeum-2-2-.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/AuY53CJ.jpg

Also a possible new units to add to the game

FBI HRT(Hostage Rescue Team)

https://img.washingtonpost.com/rw/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2014/04/08/Others/Images/2014-04-08/FBIWARS0071396978932.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wrhqcqO.jpg

http://www.gear*****sanonymous.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Police-Barracks-Shoot_sham-38.jpg

http://i.cbc.ca/1.3131300.1435527476!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_620/85999214.jpg

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a560/alexkras31/11_zpse43a8dab.jpg

http://40.media.tumblr.com/edd01a670a872d51831379c9e1c03a95/tumblr_nrk77ffEmC1rd55rto3_1280.png

Austrailian SASR (Special Air Service Regiment):

https://securityscholar.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/sotg.jpg

http://discovermilitary.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/australian-sas-crye3-2.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/p_XNx2CFREI/mqdefault.jpg

http://www.abc.net.au/news/linkableblob/5827754/data/special-operations-soldier-data.jpg

Austrailian Federal Police Tactical Assault Groups

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/sites/sbs.com.au.news/files/20141215001076415632-original.jpg

http://www.smh.com.au/content/dam/images/1/2/7/k/6/h/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.128acl.png/1418665423080.jpg

https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.c om/files/67728/width668/image-20141218-31046-18q9iac.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03138/Sydney-siege-3_3138141k.jpg

http://sofrep.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/1.jpg

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/702547-7bc7dcb6-8400-11e4-a702-553dc58650c9.jpg

http://www.smh.com.au/content/dam/images/1/2/7/c/8/u/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.127bo0.png/1418620747904.jpg

I would like to say thank you to all those who have served in any of these units and all of those who have served as military personel and law enforcement officers.

Wistfanes
12-15-2015, 11:15 AM
Funny that not a single woman in any of those photoes. Its like women do not serve in the vanguard together with men. Its like they been put in the game to fill somekinda divercity quota.

Sasquatch.511
12-15-2015, 05:36 PM
Funny that not a single woman in any of those photos. It's like women do not serve in the vanguard together with men. Its like they been put in the game to fill somekinda divercity quota.

Aside from the final photo of FBI SWAT(the person on the far right is a woman), there are no other females in these images(aside from the hostage from the photos of the sydney siege). This is because in these elite counter terrorism units males have a supermajority by population. I believe they added women and made them proportional to males to prevent lawsuits for discrimination(sounds rediculous but there are shyster lawyers out there). Even though facts dictate otherwise, the devs wanted to prevent lawsuits, and possibly influence gamers perception of social codes and mores. I could be wrong but thats just my best guess

outerabiz
12-15-2015, 06:28 PM
1. there are women in the pictures.
2. there are women in door kicker police units.
3. there are women in front line service in the military aswell. (just not in the US yet)

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235293122_Women_on_SWAT_teams_Separate_but_equal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracal_Battalion

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/careers/marine-corps/2015/02/11/marsoc-conducts-integration-assessment-female-operators/23243457/

Sasquatch.511
12-19-2015, 12:39 AM
1. there are women in the pictures.
2. there are women in door kicker police units.
3. there are women in front line service in the military aswell. (just not in the US yet)

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235293122_Women_on_SWAT_teams_Separate_but_equal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracal_Battalion

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/careers/marine-corps/2015/02/11/marsoc-conducts-integration-assessment-female-operators/23243457/

While you are correct, if you read what I said, I am not saying they are not a part of these units, but rather women are a minority. This thread was not created to discuss the issue of women in combat or any other social issues, can everyone save it for another thread? The intention of this thread is to provide examples for new character models as the gear for some of the units in the game is outdated. What are your views on that or the new units I sugested adding to the game?

outerabiz
01-04-2016, 02:00 PM
no i completely agree with that, an option to choose tactical gear or customize your operators is clearly a way more sensical option than whats in the game atm

Cashm0nae
01-04-2016, 08:14 PM
no i completely agree with that, an option to choose tactical gear or customize your operators is clearly a way more sensical option than whats in the game atm

Don't think OP mentioned anything about customizing your own operators.

CitifiedRug33
11-23-2016, 04:43 AM
Hey Sasquatch.511,

(Finaily, more people that think there could be a change to the appearence in Siege in order to look relevent to today)

I heavily agree on your case. I hear you on that and this can be a possibility in the game now that there is the new Battle Dress Uniforms. It just depends on the community and how much support this case has. I too want the appearence in Siege to change

If you can, please take a look at the Thread I made about the SEALs in the Siege and what can be changed about them with the New Battle Dress Uniforms system

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1522100-Uniform-Idea-for-the-DEVGRU-Operators-in-Siege?p=12059409#post12059409

Its worth your time I assure you

MrHanBrolo
11-25-2016, 12:59 PM
Although not SAS, the British do have their own counter-terrorism as well which I think would be nice to include as a uniform or something...They are brand new ones, completely refitted this year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/08/03/104674654_Police_counter_terrorism_officers_pose_d uring_a_media_opportunity_in_London_Wednesday_Aug-xlarge_trans++oi9wRpRogYEyvW8ksEDNKl4RsAJjORnPdNlO YX45nIc.jpg

ALB1NO DUCK
12-01-2016, 08:53 PM
When it comes to Special Forces or Special Operations, majority of country's don't have women in them since they demand a lot even from just men.
When it comes to things like HRT for the FBI or intelligence for the Brits in MI6, women can and will operate with them and earn quite a good reputation. So far, realistically there's been only 1 woman to make it through MARSOC training, an I think 2 for ranger school. So those are a lot tougher of courses because they're so tiring and demanding. But things a lot more police or intelligence sided are a bit easier to get into (physical wise) so there's a lot more women in them. Not saying women are not capable of special operations, there's just a lot that don't even care to do it. Only the future will tell, after all Russia has women Spetznaz.