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Ironman70
02-13-2004, 04:53 AM
Oleg, that would be awesome for a few maps like this to be 1:1 ratio!

Ironman70
02-13-2004, 04:53 AM
Oleg, that would be awesome for a few maps like this to be 1:1 ratio!

WOLFMondo
02-13-2004, 05:05 AM
The British coast line is fully available from the ordanance survey group as are satelite photo's. Check out multimap.co.uk and start by typing Bn1 in the post code (Brighton) and you can work right and left from there to see the entire south coast as a map or photos. Neat.

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Therr_
02-13-2004, 05:15 AM
it would be really great, we will be able to fight in better conditions of map realismhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
ohh, my dream is great battle with more than 32 players - fir example 100 germans and 60 british over the channel.... but i am not quite sure if it is possible to do
real battle of brittan.... a dreamhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Extreme_One
02-13-2004, 06:14 AM
I can't wait to fly over my house - or the area where my house is now.

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IAFS_Painter
02-13-2004, 06:51 AM
For a fee, Oleg could - probably - buy Ordanance Survey maps (digitised).

Anybody can walk into any half-way decent walking shop in the UK, and purchase these.


There'd be obvious licencing issues, and he'd have to de-grade the data but that's way better than building maps from scratch.


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WOLFMondo
02-13-2004, 07:20 AM
Well I can't wait. I live in Brighton, East Sussex, right underneath where allot of it happened and 20 miles from Tangmere aerodrome halfway between Portsmouth and Dover. Oleg model my house! (j/k)http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Aaron_GT
02-13-2004, 09:58 AM
An old housemate of mine works for the Ordnance
Survey. I can ask him about the best data to get.
It costs money, though. OS data isn't free.

You can get mesh data for the area from the USGS,
as provided in Xplane. I think that's free. I'm
not sure you could make a decent map with that
unless you teamed it up with a combination of that
millenium aerial photographic project covering
the UK, plus WW2 resources.

No11Grp_Ginger
02-13-2004, 12:48 PM
S! Wolfmondo,

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
Well I can't wait. I live in Brighton, East Sussex, right underneath where allot of it happened and 20 miles from Tangmere aerodrome halfway between Portsmouth and Dover. Oleg model my house! (j/k)http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.wolfgaming.net<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Try a visit to: http://www.tangmerepilots-raf.co.uk

Wg/Cdr. Ginger
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Gato-Loco
02-13-2004, 02:46 PM
1:1 scale???? You mean a real life size map??

02-13-2004, 07:57 PM
Don't forget the west country! There was plenty of action there too, as the bombers were headed towards factories in Bristol, Glocester and the midlands.

A map of SW England would mean less London clutter, and thus better FPS. Although, if they're planning on one huge map of all southern Britain, France and the Low Countries, then by all means bring it on (just include as far out as Somerset n' Dorset... then it'd be gert lush)

Dunkelgrun
02-14-2004, 01:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aaron_GT:
An old housemate of mine works for the Ordnance
Survey. I can ask him about the best data to get.
It costs money, though. OS data isn't free.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I wonder if I know him. I've just finished 29 years of working for the OS.
As for the maps of southern England - I was that man! My responsibilty was the collection and updating of all relevant info for the 1:50 000 Landranger series south of a line from Gloucester to Southend. There were only seven of us covering the whole country - we did rather a lot of travelling!
Basing the BoB maps on current OS mapping is a no-no. The UK, and especially SE England, has changed so much in the last 60 years that they are only any good for coastal and heighting purposes. I'm sure that none of us want to fly over the M25!

Cheers!

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WOLFMondo
02-14-2004, 03:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by No11Grp_Ginger:
S! Wolfmondo,

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
Well I can't wait. I live in Brighton, East Sussex, right underneath where allot of it happened and 20 miles from Tangmere aerodrome halfway between Portsmouth and Dover. Oleg model my house! (j/k)http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.wolfgaming.net<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Try a visit to: http://www.tangmerepilots-raf.co.uk

Wg/Cdr. Ginger
Tangmere & Westhampnett

http://www.tangmerepilots-raf.co.uk<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow! Im impressed. Do you all live in sussex/hampshire (if you don't mind me asking)? I like the website. Small world eh.

I've not been to Tangmere for a number of years, looks like they've built new display buildings and got themsleves some more exibits. I remember when it was a Hawker Hunter, Sabre and not much else apart from odds and ends and some broken planes. There was also a lorry testing ground on the old runway at one point I think. Looks like they've grown into a museum that really represents a great airfield. Is that really a Spit prototype they have there now?

Do you ever goto shoram airport? Dya know what happened to the Spit they always had outside there has gone (it looks like an VIII or IX with invsion stripes)? I used to see it on the train and thought it a shame they leave it outside and in a non flyable condition but now its no longer there.

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IAFS_Painter
02-14-2004, 03:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>{snip}
As for the maps of southern England - I was that man! My responsibilty was the collection and updating of all relevant info for the 1:50 000 Landranger series south of a line from Gloucester to Southend. There were only seven of us covering the whole country - we did rather a lot of travelling!
Basing the BoB maps on current OS mapping is a no-no. The UK, and especially SE England, has changed so much in the last 60 years that they are only any good for coastal and heighting purposes. I'm sure that none of us want to fly over the M25!

Cheers!

http://www.uploadit.org/igmusapa/tft2.jpg
http://www.nightbomber.com<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess I've used a few of your maps then, walking the Ridgeway http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif - and the wife is planning the South Downs way
Nice job - thanks

Height data is critical for Oleg's maps.
Given the issues with the Lennigrad (St Petersburg, Petrograd, or whatever), he's going to have to loose a lot of data for built up areas.

WWII reconassanse (sp!) photos will give good indications of woods, buildings, and other constructs that will have changed in 60 years.

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Aaron_GT
02-14-2004, 04:36 PM
Archived OS maps should help too, and I am
sure there are declassified maps showing
military installations of WW2 by now, allowing
the CH stations and so on to be accurately
placed. It would take a fair bit of research,
though. Sadly I don't have the time to chip in
to help get a good BoB map up and running, but
if enough people can offer help, it could be
accurate. Someone still has to check the work
for quality, I suppose. It's probably the sort
of work (An accurate map of the South East
in Sept 1940) that should be done as a public
domain project, due to its historical interest,
but as a work in progress, always subject to
revision. Hmmm - time for some lottery funding?