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Eagle_361st
02-12-2004, 07:38 PM
I heard from the modeler and he passed along some update photos. Mind you these are very early rough drafts but I wanted to pass them along for you all to view. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif The modeler noted that external will be completed fairly shortly and cockpit will be next. Here you go enjoy.
http://home.comcast.net/~smconlon/wsb/media/245357/site1046.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~smconlon/wsb/media/245357/site1047.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~smconlon/wsb/media/245357/site1048.jpg

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Eagle_361st
02-12-2004, 07:38 PM
I heard from the modeler and he passed along some update photos. Mind you these are very early rough drafts but I wanted to pass them along for you all to view. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif The modeler noted that external will be completed fairly shortly and cockpit will be next. Here you go enjoy.
http://home.comcast.net/~smconlon/wsb/media/245357/site1046.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~smconlon/wsb/media/245357/site1047.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~smconlon/wsb/media/245357/site1048.jpg

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georgeo76
02-12-2004, 07:44 PM
Looks good, but if it's not in time for the Add-on (which I assume it will not be) will we ever actually see it in-game?

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Eagle_361st
02-12-2004, 07:49 PM
There will apparently be a later add-on. I don't really know what the contents will be, but we have some time to get the P-47N made flyable into it. Time is of the essence but we are working double time on it. We are in need of any good cockpit and especially the auto-pilot references for the N-5 block a/c especially. If anyone can help there, please contact me through our website or here.

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chris455
02-12-2004, 08:08 PM
Those are very nice Eagle. Is the starboard wing still in M configuration? Looks rounded to me- but you did say it was a rough draft.

I thought Oleg put a nail in the N's coffin with his "even worse than the D" comment-
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JHAT__
02-12-2004, 08:08 PM
HI Eagle, could you guys fix some bugs in the P47s already in the game? Like resize or fix the textures for some areas of the cockpit(throttle handle, stick color, right dash buttons, cockpit sides,or just put the new sides you are making in the old P47, I don t know) if you get my original PSD files from Oleg and fix the damage skin for the stabilizers? That is something that has to be done... Or just put the new sides in the old P47, I don t know. The upper right stab is together with the opposite lower side. I don t know if it was me who painted it wrong or someone from Oleg, but it really looks weird. If you want to see what I mean just get your P47 get shot from the rear and you will see the bugs in the damage textures.

Nice work by the way http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JHAT

Eagle_361st
02-12-2004, 08:31 PM
Jhat,

We are making a whole new cockpit as it is very different from the P-47D. I will ask the modeler to look at the DM issue as well. Thanks for the kind words.

Chris,

I may be in the "know", but not sure at this point all I can say is that I was told to go ahead with the P-47N but we do have a timeframe to worry about. And of course it has to meet the quality specs as well. We can only hope it will make it and with a proper FM/DM. I have provided all of the specs and info I could find on it.

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Eagle_361st
02-12-2004, 08:32 PM
And yes only one wing is being done at a time, it is very early in the process of being built. I hope to have something up by next week, it should be much different by then. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Bearcat99
02-12-2004, 08:43 PM
Very nice!! Will it have the radar sensor on it? The one that would warn you of a bandit on your 6?

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p1ngu666
02-12-2004, 09:35 PM
!
i dont belive u didnt tell me about this!
looks great http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
be cool if we can get a M outa it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
i wouldnt mind doing some skinnin for it either :P

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VW-IceFire
02-12-2004, 09:43 PM
I'm pretty certain if Oleg did some research on the P-47N he'd find out it was a much improved version of the P-47D. Roll, response, speed, climb, virtually everything was improved. There was no loss in performance between the two...except that I bet it was even more sluggish at full fuel load since it had even greater range than the P-51D did. Plus it could carry HVARS which was a valuable thing for ground attack I think.

The only reason they were withheld from service in Korea was because the N's were all kept Stateside due to increased concern over a Soviet attack on the Continent. P-47N squadrons were re-activated and had such a conflict occured (which it obviously did not) they would be amongst the first to see battle. So they were not withheld from Korea because they were insufficient. I bet they were more expensive to maintain as well...

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p1ngu666
02-12-2004, 10:01 PM
i think inlines cost more to maintain. the jug did cost more tho

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necrobaron
02-12-2004, 10:30 PM
Looks great! Is that a completely new model or did you guys take the existing P-47D model and modify it? In any case, that's awesome work(and fast too!) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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RedDeth
02-12-2004, 10:42 PM
if we get the N in six months or less ill be in heaven man. HEAVEN

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luke97
02-13-2004, 12:40 AM
NEW COCKPIT, NEW COCKPIT!!!! YES!!!!
A lot of thanks. Please, do not use the old cockpits as a reference. Only the panel is good. The rest is pure CRAP. Sorry, but are the only C/p that have very low quality compared with the rest.

Tnx!

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crazyivan1970
02-13-2004, 12:55 AM
From what i understood there will be one more addon with planes that were not finished..
Possible canditates:

Tempest
3 versions of Spit9
B-25
P-47N

and whatever else that was almost complete but didn`t make it in for initial release.

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Cajun76
02-13-2004, 01:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
!
i dont belive u didnt tell me about this!
looks great http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
be cool if we can get a M outa it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
i wouldnt mind doing some skinnin for it either :P
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, the P-47M uses the P-47D-30-RE as it's basis. The external differences are small. The P-47N had redesigned wings, ailerons and flaps, a fillet on the tail and some other external things that make it readily identifiable as an N model. The P-47N outperformed the D in every way, especially top speed and roll, two of the strongest attributes of the P-47.

Eagle, let me know if there is anything that I can do. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Our previous PM with the first modeler has some good links that you may be able to use.

Good hunting,
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JHAT__
02-13-2004, 08:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by luke97:
NEW COCKPIT, NEW COCKPIT!!!! YES!!!!
A lot of thanks. Please, do not use the old cockpits as a reference. Only the panel is good. The rest is pure CRAP. Sorry, but are the only C/p that have very low quality compared with the rest.

Tnx!

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Pure crap huh? Could you show some ****ing respect to those who modelled and skinned this ****ing crap please?


JHAT

Diablo_310th
02-13-2004, 08:41 AM
Eagle....I'm not sure where you are located but there is an N model at the museum at Eglin AFB in Pensacola FL. We are trying to get someone from the 310th down there to get pics of the cockpit. Talk to Copperhead and see if anyone has those yet. If not I'll see if my son-in-law can go and get us some.

CHDT
02-13-2004, 08:59 AM
Good idea, but it seems to me that the dorsal fin and the wingtips still need some work. Here are two plans which may be of some help:


http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/16105/P-47_ML-16.jpg

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/16105/P-47_ML-17.jpg

Btw, some more polys around the nose section would be cool too. THanks for your work http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Cheers,

CHDT
02-13-2004, 09:02 AM
It would be fun too to have the big auxiliary tanks common on the Pacific theater for the P-47N:

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/16105/Republic%20Thunderbolt%20P-47N_014.jpg

Cheers,

Maple_Tiger
02-13-2004, 09:32 AM
I love you Eagle.


I might be feeling better tonight. Last three days i have felt like poo po. So i guess if i love the D27 then ill be obsessed with the N?

Sounds like ill need to seek proffesional help but thats ok.

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Cajun76
02-13-2004, 09:33 AM
Like Eagle said, it's an early draft, but looks good. Excellent pics and drawings, helps pin down some of the nuances of the a/c. Thank you. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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faustnik
02-13-2004, 09:54 AM
Looks awesome! The N will be the ultimate B&Z machine if there is a Pacific addon.

Thanks for your hard work on the project Eagle.

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p1ngu666
02-13-2004, 09:56 AM
i know the m was different :P
but while someones there http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
oh and p47 pits and stuff are good http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. only thing ive noticed which i didnt like is the rad flaps and trying to stick a bloody eagle on em and match up to the nose etc :\

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Willey
02-13-2004, 10:46 AM
What's exactly the difference between M and N?? I just know this: M is ETO (from Dec 44 on) and N is PTO. And obviously after reading this thread, the N hasn't round wings anymore. There was a big P-47M thread already... but I forgot that M/N stuff http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

woofiedog
02-13-2004, 02:25 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifBearcat99 good quesion,
Are we having a early warning system added to the Expansion Pac? One of the P-38 models showed the early warning array on this tail.
This would be an excellent add-on feature.
I guess we see in the up coming future pretty soon.

AB_Onedoc
02-13-2004, 03:27 PM
Man, those clouds in the pics!! What video card are you using?
AB_Onedoc

Thrawn888
02-13-2004, 03:48 PM
I know the N is the long range p47, question is, is the M the better fighter?

Another question, didnt the M and N have only 6 .50's?

Jippo01
02-13-2004, 04:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JHAT__:
Pure crap huh? Could you show some ****ing respect to those who modelled and skinned this ****ing crap please?


JHAT<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yep, I agree.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Such a stupid comment...

I like the pit, if that is any good... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


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p1ngu666
02-13-2004, 05:19 PM
m is similer to d27 we have atm, but has 2800 bhp at max power http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/icon_twisted.gif

N is a redesign for longer range, theres fuel in the wings now, its a bit bigger wing so the ends got clipped

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Eagle_361st
02-13-2004, 06:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by luke97:
NEW COCKPIT, NEW COCKPIT!!!! YES!!!!
A lot of thanks. Please, do not use the old cockpits as a reference. Only the panel is good. The rest is pure CRAP. Sorry, but are the only C/p that have very low quality compared with the rest.

Tnx!

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C'mon man be fair, JHT and the others worked very hard on the P-47 and we should be thankful for their dedication to even have it in the game. I think they did a great job, and I only hope the P-47N will be as good and if possible better quality. You may not like something about it, that is fine but please do not bash the individuals that worked very hard on it.

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necrobaron
02-13-2004, 06:39 PM
I don't see anything wrong with the current P-47 pit either.

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Korolov
02-13-2004, 06:45 PM
Don't forget that the P-47s in the game already were built to specs set down for the original IL-2, not the modern FB specs.

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Cajun76
02-13-2004, 09:27 PM
http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~wingman/p47.html

Here is a site that compares production models of the P-47.

http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Seversky-Republic.html

Go here to read about the developement of the P-47 series in context with the war and competition with other US fighter designs. It gives insight into design direction. It's 8 chapters, Ch. 7 deals mainly with the M, while Ch. 8 focuses on the N. Enjoy! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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p1ngu666
02-13-2004, 09:32 PM
id better upload that profile i got again http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Eagle_361st
02-13-2004, 11:48 PM
Here's some more guys. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif He got quite a bit more done.
http://home.comcast.net/~smconlon/wsb/media/245357/site1049.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~smconlon/wsb/media/245357/site1050.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~smconlon/wsb/media/245357/site1051.jpg

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Copperhead310th
02-14-2004, 02:00 AM
The B,C,G & M would round out the P-47 nicely. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
too bad we wont see those models as well. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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Cajun76
02-14-2004, 02:01 AM
Maybe it's just the perspective of the shots, but those last pics look a little too short, and round. Good work though.

http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v30/Cajun76/1703L.jpg

http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v30/Cajun76/p47n.jpg

http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v30/Cajun76/p47-22.jpg

http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v30/Cajun76/AirlinersNetPhotoID477723H50.jpg

This last one I have at twice the size, let me know if you want the full size, please.

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Bill_Lester
02-14-2004, 06:30 AM
Looks good so far. Let's hope she makes it into the FB world some time soon.

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p1ngu666
02-14-2004, 06:43 AM
surpose ill sort out uploadin the profile and that stuff u asked for http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Diablo_310th
02-14-2004, 08:34 AM
Awsome looking pics Eagle....I can't wait.

JHAT__
02-14-2004, 09:05 AM
Hi Eagle, really good looking pictures! May I suggest one more thing though? Please put the right wheel back in the P47s. I guess you are not redoing EVERYTHING from the original P47 right? So, the wheels could be shared, the texture. But the problem is that Oleg replaced the original US wheel texture with that VW Bettle ugly looking wheel texture. Could you make a new wheel please? I think the old one got deleted hehe

Also, the spinner, don t forget the spinner http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Great work!
I m really looking forward to it!
JHAT

Slickun
02-14-2004, 01:54 PM
N model did roll better than the D. Climb in the N was poor, even for a US plane. It was just so heavy.

The N zoom climbed better than the D model. The D accelerated better.

My Dad flew them both, and he much preferred the N. That better roll rate and zoom was the difference maker.

JG7_Rall
02-14-2004, 04:12 PM
Ummmm...am I the only one seeing the wheels in the engine area/opening? Looks funny http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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BlueDevil_361st
02-14-2004, 05:53 PM
I need napkins...what a treat to come back to.

Cajun76
02-14-2004, 08:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Slickun:
N model did roll better than the D. Climb in the N was poor, even for a US plane. It was just so heavy.

The N zoom climbed better than the D model. The D accelerated better.

My Dad flew them both, and he much preferred the N. That better roll rate and zoom was the difference maker.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cool! Has he tried the game? What does he think? Details! Details!

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JHAT__
02-14-2004, 08:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG7_Rall:
Ummmm...am I the only one seeing the wheels in the engine area/opening? Looks funny http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://home.comcast.net/~nate.r/sig.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That s just a mapping problem. The modeller probably didn t assign the engine texture file to the engine polys, so you got the coordinates that in the texture he has there show the gear (probably the wheel textures).

JHAT

p1ngu666
02-14-2004, 08:56 PM
http://www.pingu666.modded.me.uk/p47n/
uploadin it now
eagle got a few things for u too dl too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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RED_BEAR8
02-14-2004, 09:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cajun76:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Slickun:
N model did roll better than the D. Climb in the N was poor, even for a US plane. It was just so heavy.

The N zoom climbed better than the D model. The D accelerated better.


My Dad flew them both, and he much preferred the N. That better roll rate and zoom was the difference maker.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cool! Has he tried the game? What does he think? Details! Details!

Good hunting,
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yep thats right could be really good to know.


about the last piture seens to be to much rounded on the belly but any way so far so good.

And i miss something i would like to ask.
The P47 M would be done too or better to say added ? cause the 3d model is almost the one of the D .

Eagle_361st
02-15-2004, 11:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
http://www.pingu666.modded.me.uk/p47n/
uploadin it now
eagle got a few things for u too dl too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://www.pingu666.modded.me.uk/mysig3.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks mate http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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p1ngu666
02-15-2004, 11:34 AM
get on msn and ill slide u addy :P

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Slickun
02-15-2004, 11:40 AM
Dad is 83, and lives in Fordyce, Arkansas with his 3rd wife. He flew the D (bubble and razorback) and N versions after a year as a flight instructor. The war ended with his unit awaiting shipping to Ie Shima (off Okinawa). They were to fly the N in escort missions with the B-29.

Dad's unit trained on the East coast before being shipped west. They flew massive long range training missions in the N, shorter tac hops in the D. They scrapped with Naval and Marine Units training as well.

His take:

The Hellcat he brushes off as simply a training A/C with a big engine. He doesn't feel it was up to the T-Bolt's standards (no flames, just a typical fighter jock's attitude). Now the Corsair, he liked it. Depending on the altitude, the Jug had an advantage or not. Above 15,000 feet the P-47 began to be superior, below that the Bent-Wing Bird.

One tactic the Corsair pilots used against the D was to get into a turn fight. The Jug could pull as many G's as the Corsair if the speed was up. As the speed dropped, the Corsair pilots would roll level and zoom. If in the D model the -4 Corsairs would outroll the Jug, and pull away in the zoom.

If Pop was in the N model, the Jug could roll with the -4, and easily out-zoom him. He'd wave as he went by, the Corsair pilot would flip him off.

Dad said the Corsairs could outturn the Jugs as soon as the speed began to drop All the Jug models could dive away from the Corsairs. The Corsairs generally outrolled the D models, the N's were as good as the Corsairs rolling. Always a lot of joshing and friendly insults back and forth as well.

Eagle_361st
02-15-2004, 12:03 PM
Here's the newest update, as you all can see it is coming together quite nicely. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
http://home.comcast.net/~smconlon/wsb/media/245357/site1052.jpg

~S!
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Cajun76
02-15-2004, 12:20 PM
Ah, much better! Thanks Eagle! I realize the wings are being worked on, so I won't comment on that. But is it just me, or does the fillet look too 'deep'? Believe me, I want the JugN as much as anyone, but I also want Oleg to accept it. So don't think I'm trying to throw water on it, just trying to get the fire to burn evenly, if you get me. I sincerely appreiciate your efforts, and my donation of $100 US still stands, just let me know when and where. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Good hunting,
Cajun76

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Eagle_361st
02-15-2004, 12:31 PM
Cajun,

This is really very early rendering, there will be many changes before it's final. I too want this done right, and from what the modeler is telling me things will be very different in the final. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Thank you for your offer and I will contact you when the time comes, but the model has to meet mine and Olegs criteria before he gets paid, it's part of the deal I made with the modeler. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Look for some more updates in the next few days.

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RED_BEAR8
02-15-2004, 03:02 PM
well looking goood, any way the extention of the vertical tail seens a bit high. well maybe is the angle of the shoot....


but so far so good http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Eagle_361st
02-15-2004, 08:31 PM
bump

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Cajun76
02-16-2004, 03:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Eagle_361st:
Cajun,

This is really very early rendering, there will be many changes before it's final. I too want this done right, and from what the modeler is telling me things will be very different in the final. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Thank you for your offer and I will contact you when the time comes, but the model has to meet mine and Olegs criteria before he gets paid, it's part of the deal I made with the modeler. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Look for some more updates in the next few days.

~S!
Eagle
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http://home.comcast.net/~smconlon/wsb/media/245357/site1003.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Roger that. I'm not a modeler, and I don't really know the process, so I wasn't sure how easy it was to change things once they're 'built'. I didn't mean to imply that you might have low standards, but I didn't want to see it turn out like some of the CFS2 mods that are all out of proportion. I think it's great, and I think everyone involved want's to see a gorgeous, accurate model, http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v30/Cajun76/1052110656.jpg and the plane won't be bad either. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Good hunting,
Cajun76

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p1ngu666
02-16-2004, 07:39 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
g.zip is better, but id better not post url here http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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Cajun76
02-19-2004, 12:41 AM
bump

Good hunting,
Cajun76

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CHDT
02-19-2004, 02:46 AM
Good update http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Could you post a profile of the aircraft?

Cheers,

Cajun76
02-19-2004, 04:04 PM
Due to the variations of the English language, you could either be asking for pics from the side of the model in progress, or an overview of the the aircraft. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Eagle has the lowdown on the pics, so I'll try to provide some info.

Here (http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~wingman/p47.html) is an overview of production P-47 models.

This (http://home.att.net/~Historyzone/Seversky-Republic8.html) is Chapter 8 of an article about the the P-47s development. This chapter mostly deals with the P-47N.

Good hunting,
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Eagle_361st
02-19-2004, 08:50 PM
Here's the next batch of updates. Things are coming along, although we are having trouble finding good clear pictures of the underside of a P-47N for proper panel and rivet placement. Anyone with clear photos please contact me.
http://home.comcast.net/~smconlon/wsb/media/245357/site1054.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~smconlon/wsb/media/245357/site1055.jpg

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Cajun76
02-20-2004, 12:06 AM
Awesome pics, thanks! I was doing some more searches for P-47N pics, when I came upon this site.

http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/p47n.html

It's all in Russian, but it might be helpful to show to Oleg. I know we have some Russian freinds here, maybe a short synopsis to see if the author has it about right. The camera icon dosen't lead to any P-47 pics, but near the bottom of the pic page are some WWII warbird pics. I'll keep searching, but the fuselage should be almost, if not identical to late P-47D models. The engine cowling appears to have been changed slightly for the new "C" series engine.

Good hunting,
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Eagle_361st
02-20-2004, 12:27 AM
Cool! Thanks Cajun http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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CHDT
02-20-2004, 03:24 AM
Great update, but you should perhaps have a closer look at the dorsal extension shape which is very characteristic for the P-47N:

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpics/16105/Republic%20Thunderbolt%20P-47N_006.jpg

Cheers,

jurinko
02-20-2004, 04:04 AM
my question is, are those clouds and the sky from FB? I don´t think so... but they look very very realistic. Wish to have it in FB..

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MPortus
02-20-2004, 04:42 AM
Thats just the render background. A photo.

p1ngu666
02-20-2004, 08:28 AM
what about my profile thing i scanned? think that might help http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Eagle_361st
02-21-2004, 11:04 AM
Tap, tap, tap it along

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Sofa_361st
02-21-2004, 11:26 AM
Verry Nice Bro...

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