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Locust_
06-30-2004, 01:50 AM
Hi I had this utility once & it was very cool

I didnt like the automatic head movement what I DID LOVE was the way I could look around, I was wondering if this utility is still out there ?

Where can I get it & good directions for setup Please ?

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Locust_
06-30-2004, 01:50 AM
Hi I had this utility once & it was very cool

I didnt like the automatic head movement what I DID LOVE was the way I could look around, I was wondering if this utility is still out there ?

Where can I get it & good directions for setup Please ?

http://img20.photobucket.com/albums/v61/AFJ_Locust/p38loco1sig.jpg

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F16_txmx
06-30-2004, 03:01 AM
http://www.mousevision.com/game/newview/il2_newview.zip

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Bussard_1
06-30-2004, 08:15 AM
Locust or txmx,
Would either of you fine gents care to give a brief description of what NewView does and how it might enhance my simm experience?
Got the d/l,read the readme and I'd like a little more info before I mess with my install.

Thanks v much.
Bussard1

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F16_txmx
06-30-2004, 09:17 AM
Sure http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

There's a nice help file written by jetstream100 for NewView here: http://users.bigpond.net.au/gwen/fb/english.hlp

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a50calhal
06-30-2004, 02:30 PM
how do you uninstall this darn thing? I cant find any files anywhere. I cant look anywhere at all now with joystick or number pad. This is after I uninstaled and reloaded the game.

VMF-214_HaVoK
06-30-2004, 05:05 PM
I prefer FB view Plus. It allows you to move your hat smoothly instead of segments and you can also change the pan speed as well. Here is the link to a thread concerning it http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=485107474 You can find the download link there as well. Give it a try http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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JG52_wunsch
06-30-2004, 05:13 PM
newview is great,i love it.makes seem more real
more natural(sp),lol.

After it was refeuled i climbed in.With many manipulations the mechcanics started the turbines.I followed their actions with the greatest of interest.The first one started quite easily.the second caught fire.In no time the whole engine was on fire.Luckily as a fighter pilot i was used to getting quickly out of the cockpit.The fire was quickly put out.The second plane caused no trouble - Adolf Galland (first time in a ME262)

Locust_
06-30-2004, 05:15 PM
thx havok this is exzactaly what i wanted

http://img20.photobucket.com/albums/v61/AFJ_Locust/p38loco1sig.jpg

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HH Quazi
06-30-2004, 06:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
I prefer FB view Plus. It allows you to move your hat smoothly instead of segments and you can also change the pan speed as well. Here is the link to a thread concerning it http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=485107474 You can find the download link there as well. Give it a try http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

=S=

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I've tried both and I like the FBView plus for all the same reasons plus you can change the angle at which you use the hat switch to snap view.

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Locust_
06-30-2004, 06:36 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
I prefer FB view Plus. It allows you to move your hat smoothly instead of segments and you can also change the pan speed as well. Here is the link to a thread concerning it http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=485107474 You can find the download link there as well. Give it a try http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
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Hey I must be doing something wrong. this program is just giving me fancy pan views, What im looking for is more like USING a mouse but its programed to the pov, u touch the pov a lil left & it looks a lil left, like moving a mouse but its not a mouse get it ? can this program do that ?

also another problem is normaly to me, left on my pov is look left, up on POV is look up etc... etc...

After runing this program pressing left on pov looks UP in the game, pressing UP on POV looks Left, pressing DOWN on POV looks right in game etc etc.... That is unexceptable is there a way to change wich direction the POV looks within the program? HELP !!!

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Locust_
06-30-2004, 07:05 PM
VMF-214_HaVoK

Hey Havok I got it to work like a mouse now

Simply went into snapview tab withinFB View Plus, Clicked on Recomended settings & chose Keybord instead of Common

But now Im still having same issue with Vertical being horzantal & horizantal being vertical....

Or put another way, I press left, wich is toward me in the horizantal & it looks UP I want that to be LOOK LEFT not up

If I press UP on POV it LOOKS LEFT
Press DOWN on POV it LOOKS RIGHT
press RIGHT on POV it looks DOWN

Please I love this program so far just the movement of the POV dosnot coincide with what "I" coincide to be up,left,right,down

Others might be able to fly like this but theres no way in hell I could get used to this bassakwards POV HELP!!!

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Locust_
06-30-2004, 07:08 PM
I could disasemble the throttle & rotate the POV hat, but Im hopeing I dont have to do that & theres a way to trick it within the program!

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a50calhal
06-30-2004, 08:01 PM
has anyone figured out how to delete this damn thing yet? I cant look anywhere but straight ahead.

Waldo.Pepper
06-30-2004, 08:11 PM
OK FB view plus is better IMO.

Unistall through control panel, but why would you want to?

Locust Maybe when you first installed it you forgot to "clear previous setting" (I think thats pretty close to the message you get) you have to say yes, sure, ok, Yippee - or it wont work properly.

Ciao!

HH Quazi
06-30-2004, 08:18 PM
Everytime I crank it up, FBView Plus, I always clean out the old settings, then save the current settings, then run it.

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a50calhal
06-30-2004, 09:07 PM
Ok, I figured it out, c_windows_unzipped_ then delete the Il2 FB newview folder.

VMF-214_HaVoK
06-30-2004, 09:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Locust_:
VMF-214_HaVoK

Hey Havok I got it to work like a mouse now

Simply went into snapview tab withinFB View Plus, Clicked on Recomended settings & chose Keybord instead of Common

But now Im still having same issue with Vertical being horzantal & horizantal being vertical....

Or put another way, I press left, wich is toward me in the horizantal & it looks UP I want that to be LOOK LEFT not up

If I press UP on POV it LOOKS LEFT
Press DOWN on POV it LOOKS RIGHT
press RIGHT on POV it looks DOWN

Please I love this program so far just the movement of the POV dosnot coincide with what "I" coincide to be up,left,right,down

Others might be able to fly like this but theres no way in hell I could get used to this bassakwards POV HELP!!!

http://img20.photobucket.com/albums/v61/AFJ_Locust/p38loco1sig.jpg

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RGRT...I was just about to tell ya that http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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VMF-214_HaVoK
06-30-2004, 09:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
OK FB view plus is better IMO.

Unistall through control panel, but why would you want to?

Locust Maybe when you first installed it you forgot to "clear previous setting" (I think thats pretty close to the message you get) you have to say yes, sure, ok, Yippee - or it wont work properly.

Ciao!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes be sure to clear all previous settings or you will encounter some problems.

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Locust_
06-30-2004, 09:19 PM
Well I LOVE this program it does everything I want it too except one crucial thing.....

It Moves like Mouse http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You can control speed of Movement

Its SO DAM Good I am very upset that I cant use it, Its So good Infact that I just spent 2 hour's taking apart my CH Throttle to see if i could Rotate the POV one stinking position to make left left & right right up up & down down but the POV is soldered to a bord So I cant Ive had this same problem in the past with other sims/racing games Im not sure if its CH fault or who's fault it is but the Default POV Positions are fecking ******ed.... up is LEFT & down is RIGHT, right is DOWN & left is UP, IDIOTS !!!!!!!!!

Basicaly they consider pushing Foward on the POV toward the monitor as UP, then all other positions are calculated from that Moronic decision, In the past I have been able to get around this stupidity by using the CH Control manager & reprograming the POV to be a 4way hat that replicates button presses, this has made it possible for me to use pan views semi effectivly with the Left is left theory Problem with this awsome tool is that I cant seem to change the angle of View

I need
Left to be 145
Right to be -145
Up to be -90
down to be 60

On my POV hat http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/cry.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif



that I cant seem to overcome LOL

I backed up the Settings.ini & Conf.ini that are in the Il2FB directory, before I messed with the new view program so I could go back to my old caveman views just incase & yes I also washed the FB control's several times its not that, its the simple fact that somebody at CH thinks that pressing foward on a POV hat should result in looking up & not looking right & theres nothing I can do about it.....

PS this POV hat is not on my stick its on my throttle... Dam Im ticked cuz this program is SOOOOOOOO GOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDD

Boffffffffff

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[This message was edited by Locust_ on Wed June 30 2004 at 08:36 PM.]

Locust_
06-30-2004, 09:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by a50calhal:
has anyone figured out how to delete this damn thing yet? I cant look anywhere but straight ahead.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey Im not 100% sure but I DL the .rar version made a folder on my Desktop unziped the .rar into that & ran it from there I dont think it installs like a game or program its an .exe program Just delete it I guess ?

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VMF-214_HaVoK
06-30-2004, 09:22 PM
If what you want is to have smooth viewing as if you was using your mouse be sure to select "Toggle between PanView/SnapView" selected under control type. Also under "Start with" select PanView.

Now you can click on the PanView Tab and adjust your moving speed. (I use 175) Now you can click the test button up top and see if its to slow or to fast for you. Save settings.

But be sure to clear all previous settings at the beginning when your first setting up FB ViewPlus.

And you have to have FB ViewPlus running in background for it to work. Under the Run IL2 FB Tab select Run after HyperLobby and you will be all set.

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Locust_
06-30-2004, 09:30 PM
Roger that mate Its not any of that I read the destructions I fumbled around a bit at first but figured out how to get the actual movement I want the problem is not the view or the movement now but how my stupid POV hat intuprates the angle's of view

God I wish the guy who made this program would stop in here please read my other post maybe I can change this & fix it within the Pgogram but right now I dont think it can cause I messed with it alot http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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Locust_
06-30-2004, 09:37 PM
feckkkkkkkk

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VMF-214_HaVoK
06-30-2004, 09:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Locust_:
Roger that mate Its not any of that I read the destructions I fumbled around a bit at first but figured out how to get the actual movement I want the problem is not the view or the movement now but how my stupid POV hat intuprates the angle's of view

God I wish the guy who made this program would stop in here please read my other post maybe I can change this & fix it within the Pgogram but right now I dont think it can cause I messed with it alot http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

http://img20.photobucket.com/albums/v61/AFJ_Locust/p38loco1sig.jpg

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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So its a stick issue for you? If so Im sure someone can help ya. I hope so because like you said its a DAM GOOD program http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Locust_
06-30-2004, 09:39 PM
Copy that HaVoK that it is....

maybe in future the developer will allow the switching of Horizantal & vertical so this problem can be overcome.

PS Im not blameing the developer of this tool this one is on CH & its realy my only gripe ever about CH they rox 2

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SerpentBlade
07-01-2004, 03:02 AM
Locust, I am not the writer of the program, the writer is I/JG54_XPC, he cannot logon here yet, so I answer ur question on behalf of him:

it seems ur joystick use different code to other joysticks? snapview should be fine for you. will try to solve this in version 2.3

BTW, a newer v2.2 is released

ftp://g54:jackgh@wm87.3322.org/fbvwps22.zip

ftp://g54:jackgh@wm87.3322.org/fbvwps22.rar

new features added:

- improved network interface
- can adjust smoothness by adding "run intervals" option
- can start automatically by doing the following steps:

1. rename il2fb.exe in FB directory to il2fbrun.exe
2. copy the following files to the FB directory:
il2fb.exe
fbvwps.dll
fvpext.dll
Microsoft.DirectX.dll
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectInput.dll

[This message was edited by SerpentBlade on Thu July 01 2004 at 02:15 AM.]

CzechTexan
07-01-2004, 06:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by a50calhal:
has anyone figured out how to delete this damn thing yet? I cant look anywhere but straight ahead.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

a50calhal, I think I had the same problem as you. I fixed the problem by clicking on the button "run IL-2FB" inside ViewPlus. Now i just double click on the Viewplus icon and then this particular button to start playing il2fb INSTEAD of using the shortcut icons normally used to start it up.

It also helps to clear the view settings.
Try it this way and see if it works. I really like this program compared to the others i've used. Maybe you'll like it too after all the frustration you've gone through.


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antifreeze
07-01-2004, 08:20 AM
You guys seems to be missing the very best things about NewView. You need to read the manual and really understand what all the settings do, but they are very powerful when combined. Way more than just making your hat-switch act like a mouse.

For instance, thanks to NewView (in particular the 'emulate URGearHelmet' option) I can use two joysticks. The left joystick stick movement (not hatswitch) pans the view around like a mouse, and the right joystick controls the plane. It's extremely intuative.

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