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Shiftyas
06-06-2004, 03:42 PM
Hi, in the 11.21.2003 dev update you show a Hawker Tempest V as being part of the "expansion pack". Please give us news on what is happening here, this is a really significant late war aircraft, especially considering the potiental German opposition.

Please make it flyable, I for one would really appreciate some "rat catching".

Thanks

Shiftyas
06-06-2004, 03:42 PM
Hi, in the 11.21.2003 dev update you show a Hawker Tempest V as being part of the "expansion pack". Please give us news on what is happening here, this is a really significant late war aircraft, especially considering the potiental German opposition.

Please make it flyable, I for one would really appreciate some "rat catching".

Thanks

VW-IceFire
06-06-2004, 05:00 PM
You should use a question mark. I thought you actually had news.

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p1ngu666
06-06-2004, 05:09 PM
ice maybe u can poke alex? the modeler
the czech guy
who may not be czech
o look im halfway to australia already http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
poke him again too

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HamishUK
06-07-2004, 04:34 AM
According to Alex most of it is done now.

He is just finishing off the cockpit and damage model from what I remember of his post in Netwings?

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PaulCJ
06-07-2004, 12:13 PM
Wasn't that over a month ago at this point? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I hope to Hell that the Tempest makes it into the game soon, I can't wait to take her for a spin...

Brain32
06-07-2004, 12:44 PM
Last time I visited il2 database everything was 100% done, but cockpit was on 99%...
Let's all cross our fingers for the next patch!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

VW-IceFire
06-07-2004, 01:51 PM
Yes I punched in that latest update based on available information. Its still very slow going from what I can understand and I worry that it may not make the next (potentially final) patch.

The Typhoon flyable also relies on having the Tempest cockpit finished (either that or the Typhoon needs a modeler to do an entirely new pit which is just not worth the trouble). So we'll likely get both flyable or none and just a AI Typhoon.

Lets hope for the best!

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Cragger
06-07-2004, 03:24 PM
The percentages at IL2 database are purely conjecture. For example the Wildcat I was doing before it was taken over by Pacific Fighters was stated (and still is) 50% external where I wouldn't have put it at more than 10% because LOD_0 wasn't even done yet.

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PaulCJ
06-07-2004, 04:19 PM
Maybe one of the experienced people might be able to lend Alex a hand so that this could get done before the deadline?

I mean, it would be a shame to see so many months of work go to waste...

VW-IceFire
06-07-2004, 04:33 PM
Bit of news that I can gather is that Mr. Voicu is working on the LODs for the Tempest right now and that the total model completion is now 75%.

If you've seen pictures of other aircraft in the works then you'll see how much work it is to do several levels of detail and whatnot.

I'm hoping...really hoping that we can get the Tempest and its older cousin the Typhoon in as flyables. Today, flying on the UK-Dedicated server over the beaches of Normandy and storming some of the fortress defenses along the beach really made me want to be doing it in a fighter armed with 4 20mm cannons and a cluster of rockets on my wings.

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Cragger
06-07-2004, 05:11 PM
Unfortunately I see alot of work and potential being wasted, because several new projects have appeared several fairly far into development such as the Re 2000. To bad 1CMaddox can't be more forth coming in when the cutoff point is but I'm sure thats mostly Ubi's doing as I doubt Mr. Maddox wants to see people waste their time.

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VW-IceFire
06-07-2004, 08:51 PM
I think the general rumor is that we've got another month or two or three at the most. So these things need to get done, and done quickly, if its to see the light of day.

And I sure hope it does!

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crazyivan1970
06-07-2004, 09:54 PM
This is how IceFire gets when you mention Tempest http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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VW-IceFire
06-07-2004, 10:09 PM
LOL Ivan!

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gombal40
06-08-2004, 06:18 AM
Yes 'cause he's afraid to miss
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and
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Arent u Ivan?? You cold harted ..... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

VW-IceFire
06-08-2004, 07:24 AM
...and usually because whenever someone mentions it I go and talk about it for ages http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Or I shoot down three or four people in a co-op sortie. Just ask Ivan...I believe he was on the recieving end of that...and I was flyin a P-38! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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NN_EnigmuS
06-08-2004, 07:58 AM
very nice pictures for two nice plane

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Brain32
06-08-2004, 12:14 PM
IceFire is not the only one getting like that when a Tempest is mentioned http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

VW-IceFire
06-08-2004, 02:35 PM
I just can't wait to do things like strafe an enemy airfield or a collum of tanks and then zoom upto 1000 meters to have a nice fight with some marauding 109's. That'll be quite something...

Or Typhoons over Falaise with plenty of ground vehicles and enough rockets to let loose. I really want to recreate some of the operations that took place at that time.

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Luftcaca
06-08-2004, 02:44 PM
I want the Tempest too!
not only the MkV but MkI (Napier Sabre IV) and MkII (Bristol Centaurus) as well http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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VW-IceFire
06-08-2004, 09:23 PM
There was only one of the Mark I which infact had a Griffon engine. What you're thinking of is the Mark VI which was with the uprated Sabre IV and a modified radiator embedded in the wings.

A Tempest Mark II would fit nicely into the 1946 campaign since they came into strength during that time. It would also fit in a 1946 Pacific Fighters scenario if that were ever done since most Tempest II's were meant for the Pacifc under control of SEAC.

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VW-IceFire
06-13-2004, 03:12 PM
I was compelled by my obsession (with Photoshop, no really http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) to do this:

http://home.cogeco.ca/~cczerneda/sigs/tempestaddiction.jpg
Enjoy! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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DeerHunterUK
06-13-2004, 03:34 PM
Weird to see how far we've come since AoE came out what 10-11 years ago?
BTW I believe you can also fly a Tempest in EAW aswell. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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p1ngu666
06-13-2004, 04:08 PM
and for escorting mossies on low level bombing runs

like that prison one http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

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Luftcaca
06-13-2004, 05:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
There was only one of the Mark I which infact had a Griffon engine. What you're thinking of is the Mark VI which was with the uprated Sabre IV and a modified radiator embedded in the wings.

A Tempest Mark II would fit nicely into the 1946 campaign since they came into strength during that time. It would also fit in a 1946 Pacific Fighters scenario if that were ever done since most Tempest II's were meant for the Pacifc under control of SEAC.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

eum, the Mk1 never had a Griffon that was the MkIV I think
The MkI had a Napier Sabre IV, with this new 2500hp engine, the radiator were mounted in the wings instead of a big one under the nose.
The MkIII used a Griffon IIb if I remember well, and the MIV had a griffon 61
unfortunately, none of these engines were reliable enough at this time yet so they used the same Sabre as the Typhoon.
The Tempest MkVI (modified prototype HM595) had a Napier Sabre V http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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VW-IceFire
06-13-2004, 05:23 PM
Another one...

http://home.cogeco.ca/~cczerneda/sigs/typhoonaddiction.jpg

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p1ngu666
06-13-2004, 05:28 PM
nice http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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VW-IceFire
06-13-2004, 08:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Luftcaca:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
There was only one of the Mark I which infact had a Griffon engine. What you're thinking of is the Mark VI which was with the uprated Sabre IV and a modified radiator embedded in the wings.

A Tempest Mark II would fit nicely into the 1946 campaign since they came into strength during that time. It would also fit in a 1946 Pacific Fighters scenario if that were ever done since most Tempest II's were meant for the Pacifc under control of SEAC.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

eum, the Mk1 never had a Griffon that was the MkIV I think
The MkI had a Napier Sabre IV, with this new 2500hp engine, the radiator were mounted in the wings instead of a big one under the nose.
The MkIII used a Griffon IIb if I remember well, and the MIV had a griffon 61
unfortunately, none of these engines were reliable enough at this time yet so they used the same Sabre as the Typhoon.
The Tempest MkVI (modified prototype HM595) had a Napier Sabre V http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Ahh yes...I double checked my sources and you are infact correct!

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Luftcaca
06-13-2004, 09:04 PM
I wonder just HOW good a Tempest Mk1 would have been....like a mega spit or something http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Last time I flew the Tempest it was in EAW, and lets just say that it is....far behind now heheheh

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VW-IceFire
06-13-2004, 09:16 PM
I missed EAW and the CFS series so when I write what I say up there I'm being totally truthful.

How was the Tempest in EAW? Was it given justice?

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PaulCJ
06-13-2004, 10:58 PM
I don't mean to be a pain or anything, IceFire, but have you heard anything from Alex Voicu by any chance? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

WUAF_Badsight
06-13-2004, 11:03 PM
@ IceFire ....

where did you get the Typhoon picture in the Photoshop render from ?

i collect all the dev / 3D model updates that i can & i have not seen that pic B4

could you email it to me plz ?

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Luftcaca
06-14-2004, 12:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
How was the Tempest in EAW? Was it given justice?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

it was good if I remember well, but since the flight models in that game were pretty basic, I cant really say it was given justice, as well as for other planes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Cant wait to fly it in FB (hopefully)
it should be a tough, fast and powerful bird!

if it comes out with the last FB/AEP patch, lets just hope the DM and the FM will be accurate, it would be sad to have a screwed up Tempest...

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VW-IceFire
06-14-2004, 05:56 AM
As long as its the fastest plane there is at low altitude, rolls moderately well, turns at an average rate, has rapid firing Hispano Mark V cannons, and can hold energy consistent with its good aerodynamics and weight I'll be happy.

It'll be like flying a cross between a Spitfire, a Ta 152, and a FW190.

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WOLFMondo
06-14-2004, 06:35 AM
I can picture the whining now, about how nothing can catch it as sea level http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

Didn't it do something like 402mph on the deck!?!?

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No3 Spit
06-14-2004, 07:01 AM
S!

I'm sure it's well worth the wait, but jeeze lousie, it been a while and how many more patches will there be to get this plane in, time must surely be limited.

[This message was edited by No3 Spit on Mon June 14 2004 at 06:13 AM.]

VW-IceFire
06-14-2004, 02:47 PM
Ok...the Typhoon picture can be found here: http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/982.html

Its Harti's render. I modified it and tossed it on a screen shot I had for extra coolness. In my opinion, Harti did a maginificent job on it. Not just because I like the Typhoon but because it was very well done. It took some time and I believe there is another modeler also involved in the initial creation but he got it done. Lets hope that we can get its cockpit sorted out too.

Yes I fully anticipate some whining. Firstly that the Typhoon rolls too slowly...its roll rate is like and almost identical (except with a higher speed peak) to the A6M2. Its not an exceptional fighter but its a very heavily armed one and its very fast. Secondly that the firepower is too great because stuff will come apart with a couple of hits at the most.

The Tempest even more so. Some people will hate its average turn rate (only barely better than the FW190's) and its roll rate is better but not massively superior except above 350 mph (where it achives roughly 85 dps without spring tabs) where only a few are better. Then there is the speed and firepower. Not a single WWII fighter that I know about should or can catch a Tempest V full out on the deck. Not even the La-7 which is very fast can do it. Coupled with a very powerful 2000 hp engine and clean aerodynamics its a very potent machine. The Tempest V possess more firepower than the Hurricane Mk IIC or the Typhoon IB because of its redesigned Hispano Mark V cannons which have a higher fire rate.

Both are heavier and tougher aircraft and they aren't as nimble or agile as the Spitfires are but they have their place and they will be well liked by the FW190 crowd I think...if Oleg can provide us with what I roughly think it should be things will be great. Vices and advantages. Either way...should be controversial! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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PaulCJ
06-15-2004, 01:52 PM
Bump to see if some news will actually come up.

Luftcaca
06-15-2004, 01:57 PM
according to what I know, mostly due to its very thick wings, the Typhoon should fly like a brick above 3000m, the tempest should be better at turning, even tho its not a turning plane, like the 190

oh and btw, why not also a Spit XIV??? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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biggs222
06-15-2004, 02:01 PM
yeah fievel and Hammerd have been workign on that mkXIV for a LONG time and it looked finished too...all that work for nothing?

VW-IceFire
06-15-2004, 05:36 PM
Yes I'm after the XIV as well http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://home.cogeco.ca/~cczerneda/sigs/spitxivaddict.jpg

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biggs222
06-15-2004, 11:02 PM
i hope so too

WOLFMondo
06-16-2004, 01:48 AM
I can't wait!

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Luftcaca
06-16-2004, 10:59 AM
the Spit XIV in EAW was the best allied plane.
in IL2, it should challenge the La7 as the best overall dogfighter in the whole game! (or the Yak3) heheeheh and it should be good at ALL altitudes isnt it?

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Bull_dog_
06-16-2004, 03:18 PM
Yes the Mk XIV will rock if it is done properly...its only weak point and not much of a weakness is its slightly inferior roll rate and modest diving ability.

This plane could out turn everything in Europe, outclimb everything, was very fast at altitude and had good firepower.

I think that if the Spitfire Mk IX and XIV had the range of a Mustang that a Merlin might never have been fitted into the P-51. I truely believe that the Spitfire's only achilles heel was its limited range. I think the Mk XIV should outclimb and out turn a LA-7 but not outspeed it at low altitude. We shall see if our Soviet developers see it the same way http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/icon_twisted.gif

jtasker
06-16-2004, 10:42 PM
I think that if the Spitfire Mk IX and XIV had the range of a Mustang that a Merlin might never have been fitted into the P-51

Well, ,slap about 300 more gallons of fuel on that puppy and see how well she turns on a dime &lt;G&gt;

The Spitfire performs the way she does for a reason.. The weight savings (Small fuel supply) is a double edged sword, as is the wing design (Great turn in H, Penalty in roll and fuel economy)

Also, ,the Spit XIV won't out turn everything in the ETO.. MkIX's were still there and the XIV was identical to a MkIX in turn ability.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

NN_EnigmuS
06-17-2004, 05:16 AM
last update of hammerd at netwings
so beautiful it hurts

http://members.cox.net/covclan/images/Damage_30.jpg

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VW-IceFire
06-17-2004, 06:56 AM
Wow! Thats beautiful! Thats a whole other level...it looks so good! Bring it on! I can't wait!

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NN_EnigmuS
06-17-2004, 09:50 AM
and have you seen this,it seems will finally have it one day:

http://members.cox.net/covclan/images/Cockpit_01.jpg

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NN_EnigmuS
06-17-2004, 10:02 AM
news here thanks a lot to hammerd and alex voicu:
http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/1084.html

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Black Sheep
06-17-2004, 02:11 PM
I'd sell my soul (well, someone's soul http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif) for that Tempest - it's just beautiful.

There are so many planes out there that I really hope make it in under the final patch - the Typhoon, Tempest and Mossie first and foremost, along with the Ju 88.

Hell, The Wallet would be willing to pay out again big style for an add on with these birds in.

Big S! to all involved in these projects.

CHDT
06-17-2004, 02:52 PM
I do hope the Typhoon will have as many polygons as the beautiful Tempest!!! It looks a little bit rough now!!!

Luftcaca
06-17-2004, 03:26 PM
Beautiful

WE.NEED.THE.TEMPEST.NOW

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BigKahuna_GS
06-17-2004, 03:28 PM
S!


This might have been said before-- Is the Tempest in the next patch ?

It would be great to have both the Tempest and Spit XIV in FB/AEP. They are a couple of my favorite planes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



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JaBo_HH-BlackSheep
06-17-2004, 05:28 PM
btw the FW 190 D9 with "Bodenlader" could catch it (but we don't have it)

top speed was about 416mph down low... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (with Bombrack btw...)

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hippybasher1
06-18-2004, 06:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Luftcaca:
I want the Tempest too!
not only the MkV but MkI (Napier Sabre IV) and MkII (Bristol Centaurus) as well http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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mk11 "s were never in ww2 m8

hippybasher1
06-18-2004, 06:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jtasker:
_I think that if the Spitfire Mk IX and XIV had the range of a Mustang that a Merlin might never have been fitted into the P-51_

Well, ,slap about 300 more gallons of fuel on that puppy and see how well she turns on a dime &lt;G&gt;
actually the spit wing designed in 1934 had a higher mach number than the laminar wing of the p51 designed in 1941
The Spitfire performs the way she does for a reason.. The weight savings (Small fuel supply) is a double edged sword, as is the wing design (Great turn in H, Penalty in roll and fuel economy)

Also, ,the Spit XIV won't out turn everything in the ETO.. MkIX's were still there and the XIV was identical to a MkIX in turn ability.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hippybasher1
06-18-2004, 06:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hippybasher1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Luftcaca:
I want the Tempest too!
not only the MkV but MkI (Napier Sabre IV) and MkII (Bristol Centaurus) as well http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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Formerly ''known'' as Gunther Aeroburst<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
mk11 "s were never in ww2 m8<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>and the mk1 (the fastest prop driven at the time was never proceeded with )

Luftcaca
06-18-2004, 10:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hippybasher1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hippybasher1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Luftcaca:
I want the Tempest too!
not only the MkV but MkI (Napier Sabre IV) and MkII (Bristol Centaurus) as well http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

http://www.ifrance.com/boussourir/luftcaca.jpg

Formerly ''known'' as Gunther Aeroburst<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
mk11 "s were never in ww2 m8<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>and the mk1 (the fastest prop driven at the time was never proceeded with )<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know all of this "m8" hence the http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif at the end of my post

here it goes again : http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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WOLFMondo
06-18-2004, 10:27 AM
The Mk did somethingh like 478mph at 20,000ft...ludicrous! But it was a prototype under ideal conditions.

Ive not seen the tempest cockpit before, it looks near completion. If the external and DM is there why not put it in now as AI only?

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VW-IceFire
06-18-2004, 10:09 PM
External isn't done...they are still working on the levels of detail (LODs). It'll probably be all or nothing.

And the Typhoon will probably be flyable too...with minor changes to the cockpit.

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Brain32
06-19-2004, 04:12 AM
All or nothing is better, if you ask me. I couldn't stand watching AI Tempest and not being able to fly it

Luftcaca
06-20-2004, 12:50 AM
interesting....well at least getting it AI only would be a step in the right direction....as long as its not the LAST step...

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Shiftyas
08-27-2004, 02:11 PM
Ive heard that the IWM might have a project to get one restored to a flyable condition. There have been several former Iraqi airbase gate guardians that have been shipped to the UK.

It would certainly be nice to see a Tempest flying again.

VW-IceFire
08-27-2004, 03:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shiftyas:
Ive heard that the IWM might have a project to get one restored to a flyable condition. There have been several former Iraqi airbase gate guardians that have been shipped to the UK.

It would certainly be nice to see a Tempest flying again.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Very cool!

That'd be a sight to see!

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