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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 04:56 PM
what are the controllers you guys are using for this game?

TIA

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 04:56 PM
what are the controllers you guys are using for this game?

TIA

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 05:00 PM
saitek x45. they're very good for the price. if you're rich, get a thrustmaster cougar. i don't have one but they're supposedly the best.

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 05:03 PM
Ch Fighterstick, Pro Throttle, and Pedals. Smooth, trouble free, but not that cheap.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 05:05 PM
I have both the X45 and the Cougar and, man! éven though the X45 makes a good job at a reasonable cost, it´s like comparing a I16 to a Mustang!

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 05:15 PM
I use an X45 and a MSFFB2....works fine for me.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 05:39 PM
I have X-45. It's very programmable. You can buy alot of X-45's with price of cougar. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 05:41 PM
You can buy alot of VW for one Porsche too. Which one would you rather have?

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 06:29 PM
I have CH stuff too. It is very high quality. I was shopping for stuff for my wife's laptop yesterday and I saw some logitec and saitek stuff in Best Buy. Tried the buttons and sticks (even X-45) and realised what crap they are compared to CH. I wore out 2 Saitek USB golds in 6 months. Bet I'll have this CH combatstick for 6 years.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 06:44 PM
I'm currently using a MSFF2 and have been quite pleased with it:However, I've been eyeing a Cougar for some time. All research says "once set up, there's nothing better.."

They run about $250-300 American though so aren't cheap. The CH combination is almost as expensive (The throttle and stick can be procured for around $200 for the pair.) For both of these you'll want a decent set of rudder pedals. CH makes some, but the best ones right now are made by Hofmann and they're called Simped rudder pedals (Vario pro I believe). A simple Google search will direct you to their site.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 06:51 PM
Thunder,


Getting a Cougar setup right. Means a $400-500 mod for most guys.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 07:00 PM
To be an ace you need a MS FFB2 and a CH Pro throttle USB.

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 07:42 PM
I have been thru 2 X45s lately. For the price you can't beat them. If the stick wears out you can buy another brand and use the throttle in conjunction with it. CH products are great as well. I dont know much about their stick and throttle but their pedals though spaced rather close together work fine. I use them with my cougar at the moment. Any of these are great but my advise would be to ask yourself how serious you are about these type sims and then go from there. X45 would be my recomendation.

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 07:49 PM
I have an X45 that's just beginning to show its age (eight months) and one of the triggers has stopped working. But I have another brand new one waiting for me when this one dies. You get a cougar - you got A cougar - I don't know how long they last - but I've heard they are good.

I'm VERY hard on my sticks - so I think that the X45 is good value, seeing as it has lasted me this long /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Like the guys say above... it all depends on how much moolah (money) you got /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 07:54 PM
Cougar with U2 XL. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 09:02 PM
is a BIG mistake to buy Cougar, i had two of em , both went really quick in bad condition, potentiometers worn out, mechanical parts worn out, centerplay increased fastly.
got my moneys back from shop where i did buy cougar, and just ordered CH usb fighterstick and usb throttle.
and got already simped pedals, they rock too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

but never gonna go back for TM or guillemot products, ive seen what they are.

XyZspineZyX
07-10-2003, 09:28 PM
CH HOTAS is my choice. I have been with CH for over 12 years and CH has been in business for a long time. They also have a great reputation for quality controllers and parts (with a few exception).



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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 12:36 AM
You can't buy more joystick for the money, than the Saitek X45. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 12:11 PM
Enofinu wrote:
- is a BIG mistake to buy Cougar, i had two of em ,
- both went really quick in bad condition,
- potentiometers worn out, mechanical parts worn out,
- centerplay increased fastly.
- got my moneys back from shop where i did buy cougar,
- and just ordered CH usb fighterstick and usb
- throttle.
- and got already simped pedals, they rock too /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
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- but never gonna go back for TM or guillemot
- products, ive seen what they are.

If you were replying to my post, you should take note that I had mine œberized to the œ2. No center play, no XY transitions. I can draw circles in the analyser.

If you bought 2, you could have bought 1 and gotten the U2 mod.

Simpeds are next on my wishlist. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Tully__
07-11-2003, 12:20 PM
Lowest price worth buying: Thrustmaster Topgun Afterburner II

Best bang for the buck: Saitek X45

Best quality for least fanfare: CH Flightstick Pro USB or Fighterstick USB with CH Pro Throttle USB

Biggest price and most hoopla: Thrustmaster Cougar

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Zayets
07-11-2003, 12:21 PM
For this game I believe you need something with FFB. Saitek and cougar don't have that. when i play FB I used to switch to my aVB pegasus FFB , but lately i use only my saitek because of the throttle and buttons. I would like saitek to do some FFB hotas. And anyway , got somehow tired switching the controllers to make more room on my desk. I have tried saitek and avb on thesame time but I can't adjust the sensitivity for the stick after , so I use only x45.
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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 01:30 PM
Thanks to all that responded to my post. You guys seem to know plenty about your hardware! Ok, so I am now thinking about getting the following setup:

1) X45

2) CH rudder pedals

Although I got the money to get the Hotas or CH Flightstick/Throttle setup, I am leaning towards getting an X45 first to see how much I enjoy these new flight sims (thanks rummyrum for the candid response). Also, force feedback would be great but I am hesitant to buy Microsoft hardware.

One last question (I might also start another thread), where are the best prices for the Hotas and CH just in case I change my mind? The best place I found surprisingly was Amazon.com! They have Hotas for $254 and CH Stick/Throttle for $224 and pedals for $118.

Thanks again!

XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:18 PM
GEt the X45 first. It has rudder controls built-in.

If you don't like them - then get your separate pedals....

I love my X45 rudder controls. I no longer need to strap myself into my chair /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 04:43 PM
I am using a CH FighterStick USB, CH Pro Throttle USB and Simped Vario/Pro USB rudder pedals. Total cost is almost $400. Somehow, my wife hasn't killed me yet. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The best place to buy CH stuff online is buy.com (in the U.S. at least, don't know about elsewhere, though they may ship elsewhere). Most of the CH stuff there is below $100, as opposed to at $100 and above like other places. Their shpping rates are good and return policy is good as well.

One of the hatswitches on my Fighterstick didn't have that nice solid *click* to it that it should. I filled out the RMA form online and sent it back. They give you the option of waiting for them to receive the defective item and then ship you a replacment for free, or you can place an order for a new one, then have your account credited the price of the item when they receive the defective one. (So in effect, you just pay for the faster shipping.) I did the latter, as it was only about $15 and I wanted my new toy right away. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 05:17 PM
Good place for CH stuff.

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 06:36 PM
Try http://www.pricewatch.com/ for CH prices. Got mine from
http://www.provantage.com/. Just go to http://www.resellerratings.com/index.pl to check out customer service ratings for cheapest sites.

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XyZspineZyX
07-11-2003, 06:41 PM
I have one of these;

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Logitech Freedom 2.4 Ghz Cordless
* 10 buttons (18 commands when one button is assigned as a shift)
* Smooth heavy metal throttle design
* Twisty handle for rudder control
* Cordless
* $60.00-70.00 U.S.


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