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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 07:15 AM
Ok, here's the story.

I was flying a TB-3 to try a feat that I had heard of here, otherwise known as flying under a bridge. I succeeded, but lost my rudder. I found that if I tried to bank the plane (the only option left to turn it) it would gradually stop all forward motion, and begin to drift to whatever side I had turned towards. Only by applying full throttle could I get my plane to fly forward again.

Might actually be a useful tactic in dodging flak/fighter fire. That all depends on whether you shoot out your own rudder or not. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

So, what do you all think?

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 07:15 AM
Ok, here's the story.

I was flying a TB-3 to try a feat that I had heard of here, otherwise known as flying under a bridge. I succeeded, but lost my rudder. I found that if I tried to bank the plane (the only option left to turn it) it would gradually stop all forward motion, and begin to drift to whatever side I had turned towards. Only by applying full throttle could I get my plane to fly forward again.

Might actually be a useful tactic in dodging flak/fighter fire. That all depends on whether you shoot out your own rudder or not. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

So, what do you all think?

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 07:19 AM
Sounds like a bug.

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 07:35 AM
I've managed to land a couple times in planes with the whole vertical stabilizer blown off. Plane feels waaayyy squirrelly like that.

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 09:22 AM
What do you mean - lose the rudder for evasive action? LOL
But why not - I mean we could ask Oleg to make a "Jettison Rudder-feature" in the next addon...

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 01:37 PM
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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 06:32 PM
tsisqua wrote:
- Sounds like a bug.

Didn't look like a bug. It looked like a plane flyin' sideways! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 07:08 PM
Ive seen TBs fly sideways even with the rudder still attached. If you seriously damage and engine and the crew bails out, the plane tends to fly crabwise until it hits the deck. It would be interesting to find out whether this is accurate or not.

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 08:15 PM
BombTaxi wrote:
- Ive seen TBs fly sideways even with the rudder still
- attached. If you seriously damage and engine and the
- crew bails out, the plane tends to fly crabwise
- until it hits the deck. It would be interesting to
- find out whether this is accurate or not.
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Yes, it exists in real life. Interestingly enough, its called "crabing".


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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 08:21 PM
Fillmore wrote:
- I've managed to land a couple times in planes with
- the whole vertical stabilizer blown off. Plane
- feels waaayyy squirrelly like that.

when the the stabilizers and the fin has been blown away from a Me-262 you can still use the levators slightly, now THAT has to be a bug



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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 08:24 PM
In fact, i was playing online a couple mins ago and a guy took off my Vert stab. in a head-on. I turned and killed him, luckily, but when i turned then my plane started wobbling and wouldn't stop. I saw a Ju-52 start turnig once before, but this time i was shot down (i let him) and bailed successfully.

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 08:29 PM
I've flown and landed an IL-2 with it's rudder blown off, agreed "squirrely", I've also landed a Yak-9 with it's right elevator compleatly sheared off. That TB-3 thing is a bit odd, does your airspeed go to zero, or do you just fly sideways?

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 08:29 PM
anyplane without a tail seems to have this wierd float where you can be flying forward when your planes sideways, also the il2 has this float bug where one of you cannons are shot out if you fire them you can do a complete 360 while flying in a forward momentum let go of the trigger your plane whips around flying level.

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 08:46 PM
Seriously!? I've never seen that! Could you make a track or something? Here's a question, if your plane has a dehedral, like the 109, how much does that offset the absence of a rudder and does it decrease lift noticeably (the dehedral, not the rudder)?

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