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203Ku_Takasaki
07-24-2004, 12:33 AM
Having been away from the flight sim for some time (PF is bringing me back), I need to know a little more about TrackIR. I have seen it mentioned on some boards. The concept looks cool and to me it looks like the person having it would have a huge advantage over someone who doesn't have it.

Are most players using this now? Anyone have any feedback one way or another about it?

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203Ku_Takasaki
07-24-2004, 12:33 AM
Having been away from the flight sim for some time (PF is bringing me back), I need to know a little more about TrackIR. I have seen it mentioned on some boards. The concept looks cool and to me it looks like the person having it would have a huge advantage over someone who doesn't have it.

Are most players using this now? Anyone have any feedback one way or another about it?

203rd Kokutai (http://www.203ku.com)

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BlakJakOfSpades
07-24-2004, 02:16 AM
love it, love it love it love it, if i try to fly without it now its like looking thru a straw, very narrow fov, i gotta be able to move my head around and look around my plane, i find myself doing this in other flight sims and games that dont support trackir, just because im so used to it. love it love it *fades off praising trackir*

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Old_Canuck
07-24-2004, 04:34 PM
I've got the original TIR with an infrared diode attached to a boom mike/headset and the panning motion is very solid. Can't imagine it being any better but with the faster refresh rates of TIR 3 I'm sure it would be much more effective with the diode.

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203Ku_Takasaki
07-24-2004, 09:58 PM
Yes, I was wondering what the difference is between the older and newer versions. A guy on ebay said he was upgrading to the 3rd version. If the thing works (view moves with your head), why do you need to upgrade? Are there additional added features or something?

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oddglob
07-25-2004, 06:14 AM
The thing that concerns me about these devices is the possibility of getting a stiff neck or developing neck problems through long term and excessive use of the device. I wonder what physiotherapists and ergonomists would think of it.

I'm also curious as to whether the panning motion is as smooth as pressing a key on the keyboard in FB so as to activate the panning motion?

And is there a performance hit when using the device?

Texas LongHorn
07-25-2004, 06:40 AM
oddglob, check out the site, it's not like that. I have used TR2 and actually went back to mapping the hat. That's just my style and in NO MEANS is intended to cast disperions on the TrackIr. It works great and certainly doesn't cause any neck strain or anything else for that matter, other than addiction to the game! Once you twist your head to watch an AC shoot by in a near head-to-head you'll be hooked. I only changed away because of the funtions of my Cyborg stick, not because of the TR2 not working, my two cents. LongHorn

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oddglob
07-25-2004, 06:44 AM
Thanks. I was just a little worried because I already have neck problems due to a scoliosis, but it looks like you can toggle it on or off when you want a "break" and it has that permanent centre positioning feature.

I'm going to seriously consider getting one at some stage. I just downloaded their IL2 video and it really looked good. The panning certainly looked very smooth, but the machine they were using looked pretty fast as well.

han freak solo
07-27-2004, 11:25 AM
Great piece of gear! After researching the latest versions I found a new Trackir 2 at PCAviator(?) online for only $80.

After I slowed the speed of the device with the software included, I finally acclimated my brain and eyes to it. Using the Trackir for the last month and trying to go back to the old hat switch, I felt blinded and unable to locate targets. I would have to relearn how to use the hat switch.

Neck strain? For myself, I don't think it will ever be an issue.

Han Freak Solo

BSS_Vidar
07-27-2004, 04:27 PM
I'm using Track IR 1 with v3.10 software. I can't imagine going back to pan-viewing with my thumb again. I have the full set-up: CH Fighterstick, Pro Throttle, and Pro Rudder Pedals. With Track IR, my whole body is now into my PC flying. It's the closest thing to being their. Trust me... I fly for a living. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
Being able to look about in the carrier landing pattern with the turn of your head in Pacific Fighters is gonna be the next best thing to flying with Track IR in LOMAC!

BSS_Vidar

Old_Canuck
07-29-2004, 09:10 AM
oddglob, after using TIR for awhile you might find yourself "panning" with slow motion head movements while driving the car. I had a stiff neck at first but it became more relaxed when I learned to use slight side to side body movements along with slight head turns.

The long-term side effects are minimal apart from your new ability to rapidly scan 360 degrees until your neck twists up like a corkscrew.

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GT182
07-30-2004, 06:49 PM
I've had my Tracker IR2 since last Christmas and find it real hard to fly without it. Makes flying FB more real and natural.

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