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CanonUK
08-21-2004, 04:51 PM
Hi guys

A little unofficial (i.e not by Sharx ) request...

As you're all aware, IL2Skins is run and maintained by Sharx, and the costs come out of his pocket. Many of you have donated to cover running costs, and Sharx is grateful for that. However, he's about $100 short this month, so it means either he pays out of his own pocket, or the site goes down for a while.

You can help by donating to Sharx using PayPal. It doesn't have to be a stack of money, every little helps. It goes towards the running costs of the site, and ensures everyone can continue enjoying it. PayPal is easy to use, and easy to set up if you don't already have an account.

So, thanks to all that have donated and those that will donate. Please bump this so that as many people as possible see it.

Thanks all

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" Cmdr R Cunningham, USN

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CanonUK
08-21-2004, 04:51 PM
Hi guys

A little unofficial (i.e not by Sharx ) request...

As you're all aware, IL2Skins is run and maintained by Sharx, and the costs come out of his pocket. Many of you have donated to cover running costs, and Sharx is grateful for that. However, he's about $100 short this month, so it means either he pays out of his own pocket, or the site goes down for a while.

You can help by donating to Sharx using PayPal. It doesn't have to be a stack of money, every little helps. It goes towards the running costs of the site, and ensures everyone can continue enjoying it. PayPal is easy to use, and easy to set up if you don't already have an account.

So, thanks to all that have donated and those that will donate. Please bump this so that as many people as possible see it.

Thanks all

I never went into the air thinking I would lose.
" Cmdr R Cunningham, USN

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Platypus_1.JaVA
08-21-2004, 05:20 PM
Be happy to contribute http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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2 For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged: and with what
measure ye mete, it shall be measured
to you again.

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CanonUK
08-21-2004, 07:09 PM
Bumpy

I never went into the air thinking I would lose.
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GvSAP_Wingnut
08-21-2004, 07:15 PM
Done!

A worthy cause...

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zjulik
08-21-2004, 07:15 PM
Again, this site should be paid for by ubisoft.

GvSAP_Wingnut
08-21-2004, 07:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by zjulik:
Again, this site should be paid for by ubisoft.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He's not referring to this site... referring to il2skins.com.

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moksha
08-21-2004, 07:49 PM
bump

heywooood
08-21-2004, 08:12 PM
anyone using those excellent skins should mot mind throwing them a bone every now and again.

I am 'velociraptor' and I have a skin file.

...thanks to sharx and all the really talented contributing artists at il2skins.com http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



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icrash
08-21-2004, 08:23 PM
Sent $ to keep it flying & bump.

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TotenTanzen
08-21-2004, 09:27 PM
Just dropped him some and a bump here.

CanonUK
08-21-2004, 09:27 PM
Thanks guys! Keep it coming!

I never went into the air thinking I would lose.
" Cmdr R Cunningham, USN

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Udidtoo
08-21-2004, 11:28 PM
Just for anyone who plans to contributes information. I could never get Paypal to list me a conversion until after I donated, lol

Sharx probably scratches his head and thinks why does this Udid idiot give me $7.77 candian? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

Next time I'll slap down 13 even and see what that changed into http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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adlabs6
08-21-2004, 11:57 PM
Hehe, yea PayPal did that to me as well. I just used an online currency converter to get into the ballpark of what I was going to give.

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Taylortony
08-22-2004, 01:09 AM
And here was me thinking the official currency of Canada was Beaver Pelts http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

WUAF_Badsight
08-22-2004, 01:30 AM
you mean it isnt ?

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Jagdgeschwader2
08-22-2004, 01:42 AM
Two tools you should not be without.

Universal Currency Converter
http://www.xe.com/ucc/


Translator
http://www.freetranslation.com/

Also a big BUMP for IL2Skins.


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Friendly_flyer
08-22-2004, 02:48 AM
I would gladly donate to IL2skins, but using PayPal requires you to have a VISA, MasterCard or American Express, neithter of which I have. Is there any other way to contribute?

Fly friendly!

Petter B¸ckman
Norway

RevvinUK
08-22-2004, 04:23 AM
Glad to donate again to this awesome site I've downloaded many skins that have increased my enjoyment of IL-2 and for that reason I agree with zjulik that Ubisoft should at least donate something towards his running costs or better still host thesite for him as it add's so much to their product. Why not take down the small skins page they have on the official site and replace it with IL-2skins?

Revvin

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bazzaah2
08-22-2004, 05:30 AM
will do - it's a great site, with the cheapest art you'll find; will pop some money across.

bump!

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zjulik
08-22-2004, 05:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
He's not referring to this site... referring to il2skins.com. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know - but given the position il2skins has gotten, I still think Ubi should look into paying the fees for that site, and in some way include it under the fb umbrella.

Wemic
08-22-2004, 09:06 AM
On my way to paypal...

Wemic

Politicians are like diapers...they have to be changed frequently and always for the same reason.
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ThreeCrow
08-22-2004, 11:19 AM
Aye Aye,

Will give some more to Sharx fabtasic site, I would be lost without it.

I am constantly amazed at the quality of the research and the art. I have learned much about history (but I am still very heavily Thumbed in PSP).

Cheers.

"Never Underestimate what a soldier will do in the defense of his country."
Gen Wesley Clark

CanonUK
08-22-2004, 05:22 PM
Thanks guys!

As for whether Ubi should help, I'm of the opinion that Il2skins is best if it stays independent. Once Ubi start contributing money, or hosting, they can impose their will. It won't be Sharx's site anymore. I mean, they might try and ban skins with swastikas.

So, I think it's best if IL2skins stays free and independent. And with the generous help of you guys, it can http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I never went into the air thinking I would lose.
" Cmdr R Cunningham, USN

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Dimensionaut_
08-23-2004, 06:08 AM
Ehm... I'm sure I had something to say to this...

Sorry... I forgot http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/1072.gif


Oh no, mr. moderator... I'm not bumping this message... honestly... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

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1.JaVA_Razer
08-23-2004, 07:08 AM
Go skins go!!!
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

seing as I can't donate yet I'll bump this and i'll give a cheer for il2 skins http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Yheaaaaayy IL2 skins!!!!!!!!!
Go skins, Go skins, Go go go go gooooooo
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RkyMtnHi7
08-23-2004, 10:40 AM
I just sent a donation. I guess he's in Canada and that's why Paypal sends donations in Canadian currency. Well, in any case, I'm happy to contribute; I visit and pay homage http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif to the il2skins site numerous times a day! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

1.JaVA_Hornet
08-23-2004, 12:39 PM
In the past i have tried it but
its impossible to donate from Holland.

I am very sorry! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/351.gif

WTE_Galway
08-23-2004, 06:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Taylortony:
And here was me thinking the official currency of Canada was Beaver Pelts http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

this sort of Beaver ?

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/7146/beaver1.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/7146/beaver7.jpg

wayno7777
08-23-2004, 10:03 PM
I'm in the same boat. Have to raid the penny jar. Great site! BUMP

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I16fan
08-24-2004, 05:40 AM
BUMP

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HexAngel
08-24-2004, 01:49 PM
Ok, I tried PayPal for the first time and I hope everythings functions as intended http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/sonar.gif
What would this game be without Il2Skins http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/heart.gif

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Taylortony
08-24-2004, 02:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Taylortony:
And here was me thinking the official currency of Canada was Beaver Pelts http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

this sort of Beaver ?

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/7146/beaver1.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/7146/beaver7.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Grrrrr http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I once accepted a lift back in one of those from NI when I was doing a stint as duty courier in the RAF, rather than spend an extra day and bum a lift back in a Herc, I said yes............... WRONG.......... Head winds and watching the traffic below passing us by, buses, trucks, electric wheelchairs, the lot, heck a granny on a zimmer frame was probably quicker.....It took us 9 hours to reach our destination including a couple of refuels.....to look out the window and see bird passing u is not funny......

Have i bumped it enough?

BTW please read the donators info in the main forum, you will be recognised as helping keep the site alive... I'm on there too as are a lot of the skinners, it is all appreciated and I hope you get as much enjoyment from all these free skins that I and all of the other skinners do in providing them for your and indeed our enjoyment.....

but above all lets all thanks Sharxs, he never envisaged the site taking off like it did and justifiably too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif he deserves it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dimensionaut_
08-25-2004, 08:00 AM
I think this one should be sticky

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tttiger
08-25-2004, 02:44 PM
Thanks for the heads up, Canon.

I just sent him a donation, as I have in the past when he has needed it.

It's an invaluable site and I agree it should remain independent.

That said, I do believe Sharx could reduce the cost by being a bit more selective. He wastes a huge amount of bandwidth on absolute ****. I have told him this before and received no response.

Along with the many fine skins (CanonUK's certainly among them) there are tons made by novices and some horribly untalented people.

Frankly,I wince a bit at donating to provide them a place to display their lack of ability. Put it on a bulletin board, tape it to the refrigerator door but don't put that junk up for the world to see. Many of those skins look like they were done with crayons.

Now, who would decide what is good and who wouldn't is a tough call. I would start with limiting the skins to historically accurate and they should receive a minimum vote to stay up there.

Nonetheless, it is a valuable site, I check it every day. I'm glad to pitch in to help keep it up there.

ttt

"I want the one that kills the best with the least amount of risk to me"

-- Chuck Yeager describing "The Best Airplane."

BfHeFwMe
08-25-2004, 03:21 PM
Afraid I'll have to agree, you've forstalled collapse again this month, what about next, how about 6 months down the road. The site can't keep doing business as usual, it's already down half the time as it is.

Why you allow skins by the thousands that hardly anyone touches over months and years to remain and leech the site away is questionable. When you have to ask people to donate, that's cool, but don't you owe them a little accountability in getting them the best bang for their bucks?

Martosaurus
08-25-2004, 10:11 PM
Hate to have to ask, but what's the Paypal address should I use to donate?

HexAngel
08-25-2004, 11:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Martosaurus:
Hate to have to ask, but what's the Paypal address should I use to donate?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just go to the il2skins and click at the paypal icon at the bottom of the main page, then you'll get the address http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Hope this helps.

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WTE_Galway
08-26-2004, 12:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tttiger:

That said, I do believe Sharx could reduce the cost by being a bit more selective. He wastes a huge amount of bandwidth on absolute ****.

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Now, who would decide what is good and who wouldn't is a tough call. I would start with limiting the skins to historically accurate and they should receive a minimum vote to stay up there.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


very controversial and very time consuming

limiting it to "historical" skins is prejudiced in the extreme, many people like air racing skins and hypotheticals not everyone is obsessed with historical skins

apart from which, if you went on votes you would probably end up with a site of almost entirely all USAAF (mainly P51D skins) with the odd hammerd 109 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

if instead you decided to cull it manually it would be a 7 day a week job

I would also point out that what i personally look for on IL2skins is special interest skins such as WTE's own historial RAAF skins and these are generally unpopular because they are specialised.

IL2skins is great the way it is .. what is needed is a way to fund it better through sponsorship not chop it back to the handful of skins that are popular with the hordes

tttiger
08-26-2004, 10:34 PM
That's fine, Galway, but that bandwidth is very expensive and there are skins that are up there forever and rarely are downloaded.

Maybe the answer is to drop them after a year or six months, no matter how good or bad they are.

Or make it a pay-as-you-go-proposition.

I really don't know the answer but that site is hosting way too many skins. I'm glad to help pay for it but I know much of what I'm paying for is to host junk.

I have nothing against racing skins. I race myself now and then (although the Friday evening and Saturday morning times are very inconvenient for me). As long as they are quality racing skins.

Yes, I would go by what the "horde" is downloading. And I would get rid of the "inventory that isn't moving," just like any retail store.

It isn't my site and the method of thinning it out is Sharx's call. But it needs to be done or the cost will become impossible.

Obviously, it already is or we wouldn't be asked to (again) donate.

I hope you sent him a huge donation, Galway http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ttt

"I want the one that kills the best with the least amount of risk to me"

-- Chuck Yeager describing "The Best Airplane."

[This message was edited by tttiger on Thu August 26 2004 at 09:55 PM.]

-HH- Beebop
08-26-2004, 11:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WTE_Galway:very controversial and very time consuming

limiting it to "historical" skins is prejudiced in the extreme, many people like air racing skins and hypotheticals not everyone is obsessed with historical skins

apart from which, if you went on votes you would probably end up with a site of almost entirely all USAAF (mainly P51D skins) with the odd hammerd 109 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

if instead you decided to cull it manually it would be a 7 day a week job

I would also point out that what i personally look for on IL2skins is special interest skins such as WTE's own historial RAAF skins and these are generally unpopular because they are specialised.

IL2skins is great the way it is .. what is needed is a way to fund it better through sponsorship not chop it back to the handful of skins that are popular with the hordes<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I couldn't agree more.

Although not a lot of people have downloaded my fictional "Sister of Mercy" C-47 air ambulance, and it's certainly not historical, obviously some liked it and it has received a high rating as has my Me-210 repainted as a Mosquito. I appreciate everyone who has even looked at my skins, and I especially appreciate that Sharx has given me a venue to display what talent I might have.

As a mission builder I would not want to be restricted to having a squadron of Hartman's flying against a squadron of Tex Hills.

And tell me, who is going to judge art? What is junk to you may be fine art to me.

I say contribute to this awesome site and keep this invaluable resource available to the community.

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WTE_Galway
08-27-2004, 01:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tttiger:
That's fine, Galway, but that bandwidth is very expensive and there are skins that are up there forever and rarely are downloaded.

Maybe the answer is to drop them after a year or six months, no matter how good or bad they are.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I am not sure what the best solution is.

One minor thing that may help is adding a feature that allows the skin author to delete skins that are superceded.

For example most of my semi-historical spit skins painted back in 02/03 on that site date back to the pre-spitfire days and use Yak templates at the old 512 resolution. Being specialist skins (RAAF historical) they are not that popular with the biggest download being 150 odd.

If i ever got around to re-doing those skins on an actual spitfire at 1024 there is no option for me to delete my old skins.

Taylortony
08-27-2004, 01:47 AM
whoooooooooo who is to decide what or what is not **** as someone put it, I would suggest you got off your butts and took the time to try and skin, people think this is a 5 minute job which it is not, so some skins are not as good as others, but that is taste etc and remember a lot of the supposed best skinners are not going to be doing this for ever.....

People like to see their skins posted online and the comments that they receive, i have yet to see a skin that never got a download and as such, someone thought it worthy of downloading....

There have been people posting skins that had some pretty poor skins to start with that never received many downloads, they have gone on to become some of the best skinners in the game.
Saying their skins will simply be removed for poor downloads would kill their desire to skin overnight and rob the community of some future works of art period... They should be encouraged to improve, not the other way round.

As to the remove them after a perod of a year, well some of the highest downloaded skins on the site have been on over a year, so that is unworkable, the best option mentioned would be to allow skinners the facility to remove their own skins as they desire.... or better still leave it alone, remember this is not a publicly owned site but a private one that takes a lot of sharxs time and unlike Oleg he does not have the time to bow to every individuals whime.

And as for all the critiques of the site and the skins, well dig deep into your pockets and buy the software required to do this, then as said get off your Butts and produce something worthwhile from scratch that gets hmmmmmmmmmm lets say 200 downloads plus instead of critising other skinners, then you might have a legitimate case to whine at the quality or standard of some of the skins...

tttiger
08-27-2004, 03:00 AM
taylortony:

This isn't about whining. And it isn't about anyone getting off their butt and producing skins.

It's about asking people to donate money to a site that doesn't discriminate between a piece of art and...well, you get the point...

Look, mate, I'm just trying to suggest a way to keep a valuable community resource from costing the guy who hosts it a fortune every month. He posted the monthly price once. I don't remember what it was (quite a few hundred dollars), but I do remember being shocked by it. And Sharx eats most, if not all of it.

I'm not a graphic artist (if you'd ever see me trying to use Photoshop, you would know that in about three seconds http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) and I greatly appreciate the skills of those who are.

The problem is those people who are not skilled (or who haven't developed what skills they have to an acceptable level) but think they are producing masterpieces. Why should this site be a free, infinite resource for every wannabe skinner?

Every time I donate to IL-2 Skins -- and I have numerous times -- I'm not only supporting the really good artists, my money also is going to provide bandwidth for people whose skinning skills are as lousy as mine (or worse, if that's possible http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif). Why should I pay for that?

Look, I write for a living and I'm very good at it. I guarantee you, my editors aren't going to pay a dime to some amateur while he or she is learning (and who may not have the aptitude to begin with). When they've mastered their craft and produce something of quality, then maybe they get to see their work in print.

So, why should I keep supporting a web site when the webmaster makes no attempt to separate the good from the bad?

The site keeps stats on which skins are downloaded frequently and which aren't. If Sharx tossed out the stuff that isn't being downloaded, he'd save himself (and his contributors) a load of money.

I appreciate what he makes available, I've supported it financially, I will continue to do so, but I see no point in paying for junk or donating just to give web space to someone who just wants to post poor quality work.

Let them post it and if the number of downloads is small, Sharx can pull it down after a few days. When they produce skins good enough that a large number of people are downloading their work, then their efforts stay on the site.

That's all I'm suggesting.

Is it ever possible to ever state an opinion in here without having it called a "whine"? (Rhetorical question; no response required or desired http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif).

ttt

"I want the one that kills the best with the least amount of risk to me"

-- Chuck Yeager describing "The Best Airplane."

KSS_Shrike_UK
08-27-2004, 03:07 AM
has the il2skins owner thought of getting an old pc, running own web server and have unlimited space, unlimited websites, and unlimited amount of GBs can be transferred.

will only cost 25 (UK is more expensive http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ) a month for Static broadband IP.

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