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XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 08:39 AM
according to the documents that were presented to indicate that the p47 roll rate was undermodelled, there was an american plane with worst roll rate than jug...

did nobody noticed the p39 rollrate on this figure?

http://hoarmurath.free.fr/images/42.gif


actually, the rollrate of the P39 is really good, but if we are to assume that this drawing is accurate, then the p39 roll rate have been somewhat overmodelled, no?

the problem is that this present p39D roll rate rather than N or Q, but the difference is really big... Does someone have actual datas on N and Q versions?



Message Edited on 08/22/0307:44AM by Hoarmurath

XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 08:39 AM
according to the documents that were presented to indicate that the p47 roll rate was undermodelled, there was an american plane with worst roll rate than jug...

did nobody noticed the p39 rollrate on this figure?

http://hoarmurath.free.fr/images/42.gif


actually, the rollrate of the P39 is really good, but if we are to assume that this drawing is accurate, then the p39 roll rate have been somewhat overmodelled, no?

the problem is that this present p39D roll rate rather than N or Q, but the difference is really big... Does someone have actual datas on N and Q versions?



Message Edited on 08/22/0307:44AM by Hoarmurath

XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 09:07 AM
Also note the roll rate of the p40 it's much better than the p39 but in this game it's much worse,

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XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 10:13 AM
Hoarmurath wrote:
- did nobody noticed the p39 rollrate on this figure?

Yes, Join in onone of the other threads, in which
I mentioned this, and asked the same questions about
the N and Q and D.

XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 05:33 PM
subject updated in ORR

http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=Olegmaddoxreadyroom&id=zuwvv

i'll continue searching for more info on N and Q models...



Message Edited on 08/22/0304:33PM by Hoarmurath

XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 05:48 PM
And what about crappy Zero's rollrate?!?!!?
Isn't it supposed to be a maneuvrable fighter?

XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 05:57 PM
I kno! I assumed zero to be up there with the P47! Right, yes, yes, I dont think that chart is any good.

XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 05:58 PM
arf, someone said exactly the same in another forum...

becare, we are talking of rolling rate, not of turning rate...

The zero is an exceptionnal turner, all right, but that doesn't mean he roll as fast. He don't even really need to as if its target reverse its turn by rolling, the zero can continue turning and come back right behind the other plane before it could complete a 360 turn.

but the limit of better turning rate is when planes begin to have very different max speed and power response...

Best americans fighters in the pacific could easliy escape a zero by rolling, then going full power to leave the zero on place, and come back with a larger turn out of reach of zero armament... This is why more and more faster planes where designed instead of more agile ones... Speed was better than turning rate.

XyZspineZyX
08-22-2003, 06:38 PM
the zekes weight, elevator and hughe rudder made it manueverable, a roll rate isnt the only thing that makes a turn fighter mostly elevator effectiveness.

109s for instance had extremely small elevators, thats why it wasnt a sharp banking aircraft.


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