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KBarken
04-07-2004, 03:16 AM
They have found the P38 flown by the author Antoine de Saint-Exupery (known for "The Little Prince") who chrashed 1944.
See news at:

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000085&sid=aXOQffzPpeOg&refer=europe

KBarken
04-07-2004, 03:16 AM
They have found the P38 flown by the author Antoine de Saint-Exupery (known for "The Little Prince") who chrashed 1944.
See news at:

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000085&sid=aXOQffzPpeOg&refer=europe

ELEM
04-07-2004, 03:35 AM
Yes, very interesting news. A great author and interesting man, but we'll probably never know what actually brought him down. Unfortuneatly, at 70m down, it's beyond my diving limits.

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T_O_A_D
04-07-2004, 03:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ELEM:
Unfortuneatly, at 70m down, it's beyond my diving limits.

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Just where in that link did you read that??? Am I missing part of the story here??? Please advise.

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ARSNL
04-07-2004, 03:48 AM
Thx for the link very interesting.

One thig the article does not mention though is anything about his remains. I do not mention this in any ghoulish sense rest assured. My interest in that aspect comes from the story of a Spitfire they found in Belgium a few years back. In this case it was completely buried in mud but was remarkably preserved. Due to the fact that it still contained the pilots remains there was debate over it's salvage, or if it should be left alone as a war grave. (Never did hear how that one resolved)

In the case of this French aviator, his next of kin I am sure is long gone. Answering the question of why he went down would take a backseat to letting him rest in peace.

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VF-10_Snacky
04-07-2004, 04:07 AM
Unless it's a large ship at sea I would expect those remains to be brought home for proper burial wherever home may be.
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ELEM
04-07-2004, 04:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by T_O_A_D:

Just where in that link did you read that??? Am I missing part of the story here??? Please advise.

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I actually read it here:-
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/07/international/europe/07france.html?ex=1082001600&en=fc003488eb87ccde&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
It's a better article.

The wreakage is scattered over a large area, making it unlikely that any of his remains will be found.

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[This message was edited by ELEM on Wed April 07 2004 at 03:24 AM.]

ARSNL
04-07-2004, 04:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Seawolf_195th:
Unless it's a large ship at sea I would expect those remains to be brought home for proper burial wherever home may be.
Leave no man behind!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am assuming by you avatar you are American. The reason I say this is because I know it is the policy of your country to fly the dead home for burial, at least in modern times. With Commonwealth countries you were buried in the country in which you fell. I am not sure if this was enforced as stringently in WW2 as WW1 (there were actually people jailed for trying to exhume there loved ones back to Canada and Britain after WW1). I have no idea what French policy is on this or what their views would be. Hopefully a French forum member will chip in with their thoughts.

I personally beleive they should be left there, whether it is an individual or a ship's crew. The defining factor for me would be the actual location, by that I mean simply will they be left alone.

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james_ander
04-07-2004, 05:22 AM
This reminds me of a documentary I saw years back. I only saw the tail end of it. It was about a WWII bomber found on the ice in good condition. It was lovingly restored out on the ice only to be lost to a generator fire when it was started up. It was quite sad. I was wondering if anyone knew the name of the documentary. Didn't mean to subvert this thread, but it reminded me.

Hawgdog
04-07-2004, 05:28 AM
Yeah, I remember that! Took forever, parts were made and or flown in, interesting story, I nearly puked when it burned, there was nothing they could do. Terrible sad for the entire group who worked on it.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by james_ander:
This reminds me of a documentary I saw years back. I only saw the tail end of it. It was about a WWII bomber found on the ice in good condition. It was lovingly restored out on the ice only to be lost to a generator fire when it was started up. It was quite sad. I was wondering if anyone knew the name of the documentary. Didn't mean to subvert this thread, but it reminded me.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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ELEM
04-07-2004, 05:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by james_ander:
This reminds me of a documentary I saw years back. I only saw the tail end of it. It was about a WWII bomber found on the ice in good condition. It was lovingly restored out on the ice only to be lost to a generator fire when it was started up. It was quite sad. I was wondering if anyone knew the name of the documentary. Didn't mean to subvert this thread, but it reminded me.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It was a B-29 and you can get it on video:-
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6304096739/102-3740710-5376116?v=glance

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