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BERNDT79
04-20-2004, 06:04 PM
Hi,

I'm kinda confused with the gun convergense thing, what should i have it set on to deliver maximum damage? does it depend on the plane im using? Can someone shed a little light and offer some idea distances for me? Thanks

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BERNDT79
04-20-2004, 06:04 PM
Hi,

I'm kinda confused with the gun convergense thing, what should i have it set on to deliver maximum damage? does it depend on the plane im using? Can someone shed a little light and offer some idea distances for me? Thanks

-BERNDT79
Matt Berndt

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-20-2004, 06:09 PM
Depends on which bird you're in. You'll get a plethora of choices with this one. I like mine usually around 300 as an average.



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XyZspineZyX
04-20-2004, 06:11 PM
Depends on the plane. I set my convergence at 200M for mg's and 250M for cannon. Generally does the job.
Some use as little as 150M, others as much as 300M or more.
The further away you set your convergence, the less hitting power you have. This becomes a major problem with a small caliber weapon like on the early Hurricane. You can empty your entire store of ammo into a He-111 and only see a fuel leak at best.
It takes guts to get that close but then it took guts just to go against the enemy in real life.

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Chuck_Older
04-20-2004, 06:13 PM
Mine is set at the range at which I, personally, can get lead to land on target http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Don't be fooled into thinking that there is an "uber convergeance" or a range which is better than another. Set your convergeance to a number that you hit things at.

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Dmitri9mm
04-20-2004, 06:13 PM
I knda like deflection-shooting from a distance, so I have mine set to 500. Earlier on I had it set to 200, but it was impossible to hit anything at distances above 300m.
Also 500m is more close to what most planes had inb real life.

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Maple_Tiger
04-20-2004, 06:15 PM
Depends.

Im my P-38... 300m for MG and 200 for cannon.

YP-80...300m

P-51's...Usualy 200m, sometimes i like using 160m.

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Maple_Tiger
04-20-2004, 06:17 PM
For the wing mounted MG's, the convergence setting is where the bullit streams will cross paths.

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Mitlov47
04-20-2004, 06:18 PM
I generally use 200-300 meters for hunting fighters (depends on the velocity of the weapon--the lower the velocity, the shorter convergence I use), 500 meters for hunting bombers (they're big targets that fly in straight lines, and turrets are mean nasty things, so I like to stay further away).

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JG7_Rall
04-20-2004, 06:25 PM
Usually 200m for MG's and 100-150m for cannons. Sometimes I'll do 300 for MG's and 200-230 for cannons however.

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El Turo
04-20-2004, 06:39 PM
I've had the honor and wonderful opportunity to visit with a dozen or more WWII Aces and have asked them all this very same question. To a man, they have ALL said that for wing-mounted armament that they would set the convergence somewhere between 50-125 yards/meters because you can't miss when they are filling your windscreen.

So, I usually go with 125m as my setting of choice with such aircraft myself and have fairly positive and consistent results.

For planes like the P38 or bf110, I go with a little bit longer settings (like 200m or so) to help with tracking deflection shots. Not too far, however.. because the ballistic path of cannon vs. MG begins getting too far out of sync if you go too extreme with it for my taste.

I follow the Aces' advice. You get in close, and just when you think you're getting TOO close, you move in closer... THEN you fire.

Hard to miss at point blank range, after all.

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LEBillfish
04-20-2004, 10:51 PM
Have mine at 125-150 for MG's, 175 for cannon.

However, here is what I suggest instead. Run some quick missions, and have icons on yet ignore them. Fly against various planes 1 at a time you'd encounter, and with the planes you like to fly.

Save the track file, then fly the next and so on.

Once you are done, review the files and note the range you fire most often at as whether you realize it or not there is a range that feels good to you in the back of your mind that when you reach it says "now".

Once you know it, set your MG's on that average (if it's 150-250 set it 200) and set your cannons 25-50meters further.

Expect that as you become more proficient and accurate this number will change, so when the mood suits you do it again.

Don't be fooled though, at 300-500 m. I'll still get good hits and a few golden bb's (pk's) but all in all I do most my shooting at the range I stated...so I set it there.


As a side note I saw an old film where Mustang pilots were talking about ranging their guns.

Some said "all 6 hitting a silver dollar at X yards"

Others "the inner at 150, next at 200, next 250"

Still others "set them all firing straight ahead"

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Loco-S
04-20-2004, 11:49 PM
600 meters for MGs and 200 for cannons..( it depends on your taste.....) cannon ammo has much lower muzzle velocity and wigh more than MGs therefore trajectories are different, practice deflection shooting with friendlies until you can make a quick guess based on the rings of the sight of where the enemy plane will be to meet the bullets...rule of thumb: 1 ring width per each 100 kph and every 100 meters.

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VFA-195 Snacky
04-21-2004, 12:10 AM
According to the actual P51D gun convergence chart it should be set from 250-300yds which converts out to 275m=300yds. I use this with the P51 and P47. It should not matter for the P38 (but somehow the .50 still spread hopefully fixed in next patch) for the P40 I set CZ at 225-250 due to its decreased speed. It's all about getting the rounds to converge at the same distance that the rounds reach thier max velocity before slowing down.
You want max velocity at a central point of convergence.
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