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XyZspineZyX
07-23-2003, 10:17 PM
http://mined86.free.fr/evvai%203.jpg


dux-1 is working on the 3d model and FAFL-Mined on the textures, it's a 2 days job, so i guess we'll see some more nice stuff veeery soon /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
stay tuned!!!

SJ

P.S.
Uh, and Oleg, whenever u want, u got my mail address /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Message Edited on 07/24/0305:26AM by Sternjager

XyZspineZyX
07-23-2003, 10:17 PM
http://mined86.free.fr/evvai%203.jpg


dux-1 is working on the 3d model and FAFL-Mined on the textures, it's a 2 days job, so i guess we'll see some more nice stuff veeery soon /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
stay tuned!!!

SJ

P.S.
Uh, and Oleg, whenever u want, u got my mail address /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Message Edited on 07/24/0305:26AM by Sternjager

XyZspineZyX
07-24-2003, 08:37 AM
Very good work!

Veltro

http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/ECR.JPG

XyZspineZyX
07-24-2003, 08:39 AM
Sorry.

Very good work!

P.S:the signature was for LO-MAC

http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/mc202tav4.jpg

XyZspineZyX
07-24-2003, 08:53 AM
Did Italians use 'metric'Dials in WWII a/c?

XyZspineZyX
07-24-2003, 10:21 AM
Flydutch wrote:
- Did Italians use 'metric'Dials in WWII a/c?
-
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'Course, but do you know how they call a quarter-pounder with cheese? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Bring it on,

I LOVE THIS BIRD!

XyZspineZyX
07-24-2003, 10:43 AM
The our guys are working very speadly on this cockpit, we hope to give you this birds fliable as soon as possible.

Oleg please contact Sternjager!

Thank very much to dux and Mined.

http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/mc202tav4.jpg

XyZspineZyX
07-24-2003, 10:48 AM
Thanks for the update /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Italian fighters are like icecream: Cool and sweet!

XyZspineZyX
07-24-2003, 11:31 AM
muffinstomp wrote:

- 'Course, but do you know how they call a
- quarter-pounder with cheese?

LOL Royale with cheese, and u know what they put on french fries in Holland? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif



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XyZspineZyX
07-24-2003, 01:34 PM
- muffinstomp wrote:
-
-- 'Course, but do you know how they call a
-- quarter-pounder with cheese?
-
- LOL Royale with cheese, and u know what they put on
- french fries in Holland?


Mayonaise, they fckin drown 'em in that $hit....

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XyZspineZyX
07-24-2003, 02:42 PM
lol /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

but i still prefer "Le Big Mac!" ahahahahah!
ok, let's stop this Pulp Fiction thingie before being locked /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

SJ

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XyZspineZyX
07-24-2003, 02:48 PM
Finally my third most wanted plane is being made flyable/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif . Sorry, but the Bf 110C4/B and Hs-129 come first for me. I just love big f*cking guns/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif .

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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 05:35 PM
Ok! Oleg has replied, and he's interested again to this project. Thank you very much Oleg!

But.......this time not only MC202 FOLGORE but also MC205 VELTRO!!.

http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/mc202tav4.jpg

XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 06:04 PM
Looks great, whats the name of the medium bomber the italians used? I seen one on discorvy wings but forgot the name of it.


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XyZspineZyX
07-25-2003, 06:10 PM
Look at this.

http://www.finn.it/regia/html/seconda_guerra_mondiale03.htm

and this

http://www.comandosupremo.com/Air.html

Ciao.

http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/mc202tav4.jpg

XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 01:44 AM
http://www.finn.it/regia/immagini/savoia/sm79sq253gr104st43.jpg


^^ thats it. Now thats a plane fb needs before all these latewar props and jets.


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XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 02:52 AM
What about the MC 200 saetta. It fought over the southern sector of the eastern front and obtained a 3-1 kill ratio vs the early russian fighters.

Message Edited on 07/25/0308:57PM by mike_espo

XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 03:02 AM
Ill join!!!

What about the MC 200 saetta. It fought over the
southern sector of the eastern front and obtained a
3-1 kill ratio vs the early russian fighters.

http://utenti.lycos.it/AEREOFAN/images/saetta.jpg

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XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 09:45 AM
The MC 200 Saetta has been completed by Radek and is fantastic!. We need "only" the cockpit but it was very similar to the MC 202 cockpit....and now our guys are working very hard on the 202 cockpit.

http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/mc202tav4.jpg

XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 10:06 AM
LeadSpitter_ wrote:
- ^^ thats it. Now thats a plane fb needs before all
- these latewar props and jets.

Agree, SM 79 "SPARVIERO" was a very beautifull aircraft, in spite of it was an old bird, it has been a great Torpedo Bomber. English called it: "IL GOBBO MALEDETTO" (i don't now in english).

The 3D model,really fantastic, was completed by Giobianco but now.......nothing! There were too much poligons..

http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/mc202tav4.jpg

XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 05:34 PM
Veltro wrote:
- The MC 200 Saetta has been completed by Radek and is
- fantastic!. We need "only" the cockpit but it was
- very similar to the MC 202 cockpit....and now our
- guys are working very hard on the 202 cockpit.

Bravissimo!!! Can't wait!! Lets see how the Breda 12mm machine guns do against the early russian fighters!

http://utenti.lycos.it/AEREOFAN/images/saetta.jpg

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XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 08:54 PM
Wasn't the Reggiane Re.2005 Sagittario the uber plane of the I-talian air force? here a link with specs and cockpit pictures: http://www.aldini.it/re2005/performances.htm
The Airframe looks pretty much the same so I don't know if it would be hard the convert the MC. 202.


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XyZspineZyX
07-26-2003, 11:45 PM
I think the tail was slightly different. Very limited numbers around 50 I think were built only.

http://utenti.lycos.it/AEREOFAN/images/saetta.jpg

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XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 12:18 PM
Only 32 RE2005 were built, then the factory was damaged by allied bombardaments.. and the aircraft was different from a C202/205: different wings (the shape was more like a Spitfire wing than a Macchi wing), so the tail complex.
But was a beutiful aircraft, even if sometime suffered structural damage in tail section during fast dive...
I think that the next sim (if based in Med, of course!) should have a fighter like the G.55 Centauro, the best italian fighter in 2WW, well armed (2x12,7 Breda Safat machine guns and 3x20 mm cannons), who fight against bomber formations in north Italy in 44/45.. it would be great a battle against P-51, P-47 and P-38 escort fighters!!
(maybe it's a dream for an italian simmer! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif )
ciao
Pag

XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 01:02 PM
Pagooro wrote:

- I think that the next sim (if based in Med, of
- course!) should have a fighter like the G.55
- Centauro, the best italian fighter in 2WW

I thought the Macchi MC 205 V Veltro was the best I-talian fighter of WWII, well based on what ive read from the internet Forest Gore invented, http://www.museoscienza.org/english/aereo/mc205.html


http://www.defense-update.com/directory/merkava-4.jpg


Message Edited on 07/27/0308:03AM by Flying_Merkava

XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 04:45 PM
Thank for the RE 2005 cockpits image!

Fiat G55 was the best as bombers interceptor, because of the permormances in the high altitude.
MC 205 was better for the low/medium altitudes; terrible in dog fighting. This is, was italian pilots said.

But for a lot of people, the best italian fighter was the Fiat G 55.

http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/mc202tav4.jpg

XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 06:34 PM
Veltro wrote:
- Thank for the RE 2005 cockpits image!
-
- Fiat G55 was the best as bombers interceptor,
- because of the permormances in the high altitude.
- MC 205 was better for the low/medium altitudes;
- terrible in dog fighting. This is, was italian
- pilots said.
-
- But for a lot of people, the best italian fighter
- was the Fiat G 55.
-
OK Veltro, I agree with you, and personally I prefer the C.205 (it was my first love... the first aircraft article I read almost 30 years ago was focused on the C.205 Veltro, on Aerei magazine, may 1975.../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif ); but as you said, for many the best it was the G.55... in effect it was better armed than the C.205 (even a single cannon can make the difference..), and his construction was more modern than Macchi aircrafts, with their "bridge" heavy structure! I know, they was very sturdy, but with a lighter structure maybe even a C.202 could carry 2 more machine guns without a loss of performance (like the two 7,7 Breda machine guns on series VII aircrafts, often dismounted because too heavy).
Beside, as you said, below 6.000 meters the Veltro was the king..
I think we are all waiting for a Macchi* to fly...I hope we can't wait too much! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
ciao

Pag

Even a Fiat, a Reggiane, or a Caproni-Vizzola F-4, an italian aircraft, in short! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 06:41 PM
Question: did Italian planes carry guns?

When you look at them you get the feeling they were designed to look as ugly as possible to cause psychological damage to enemy fighter pilots.

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XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 06:43 PM
Oleg said: "if you work on MC 205 cockpit i'll modify the our MC 202 3D model"........
For the first time we have all the possibilities to made this birds fliable. Soon..

http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/mc202tav4.jpg

XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 06:48 PM
Fiat G50
MC 200
MC 202 first serie, absolutely no.

MC 205, MC 202 last serie, Fiat G 55/56, RE 2005 absolutely yes. Fiat G 55 carries a really terrible armament.

http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/mc202tav4.jpg

XyZspineZyX
07-27-2003, 06:50 PM
Gershy wrote:
- Question: did Italian planes carry guns?
-
- When you look at them you get the feeling they were
- designed to look as ugly as possible to cause
- psychological damage to enemy fighter pilots.
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- src="http://www.greenhearts.org/phpBB2/templates/s
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Look here.



http://www.comandosupremo.com/Air.html

http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/mc202tav4.jpg

XyZspineZyX
07-28-2003, 05:43 AM
Im all for Italian planes, Im starting to get a little sick of the 109's and 190's in the game. I hope this comes out when the Mustang does, so I can show them Mustang peeps the real Mustang, Italian born.

http://www.vvs-regia-avions.com/Regia/MC202-003.jpg
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XyZspineZyX
07-28-2003, 07:17 PM
OK to be moe serious this time:

I know practically nothing about Italian planes. Could someone tell me where i got soem infos on them? maybe in english or german if possible my italian is pretty bad /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Which one was the best fighter? the MC202(for me the best looking one)? This transport plane someone posted here in this thread looks like a JU52 with some additional parts, was it really done like that? And what is this strange looking plane someone here has in his sig( the one looking like 3 different planes were put together) ????


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XyZspineZyX
07-28-2003, 10:45 PM
i cross ALL my fingers for your italian projects !!!!

and a "thanks a lot" to the whole team that is working on it !

wonderfull, i thought i would never happen and now these very good infos !


the thing to know gershy:
the italins build wonderfull fighters ! the only problem they had was the lack of a powerfull engine !
so, they got licenses from DB to rebuild the DB601 (wich is in the MC202) and the DB605 (in the famous 5series: G55,Re2005 & MC205)
and these birds can hold their own with the best enemies !

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XyZspineZyX
07-29-2003, 01:39 AM
Here Gershy, this is far the best site on Italy in WWII, they have everything, from thier aircraft to the small arms, They have photos and specs and info on every Italian plane that served with Italy.Enjoy!


http://www.comandosupremo.com/index.shtml

http://www.vvs-regia-avions.com/Regia/MC202-003.jpg
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