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Cornik22
05-29-2015, 03:48 PM
Hi there! I’m quite surprised no one has started one of this threads for ACS yet, so I guess it will have to be me ;) Ok, so the first thing I did was work with the 2 known sources for the in-game map, one from the “Rooks edition” and the other one leaked from a closed doors presentation. These two:

http://i60.tinypic.com/33vf90j.jpg

So I mixed them together to create one map with every district in it, this one:

http://i58.tinypic.com/2akkle.jpg

Later, I studied all the promotional materials (demo, trailers and pictures) to try to identify as many landmarks as possible, with the help of a real London map from 1868 (to be more specific, the one by Edward Weller, that you can check here (http://london1868.com/weller44.htm)). It is a rough approximation. Some of these places may not be in the final version, and of course there will be many more we haven’t seen yet. So take it as you wish ;):

http://i59.tinypic.com/r8i7bn.jpg

But the search is far from over! There are still a lot of to discover, like I did in this picture:

http://i60.tinypic.com/2prbpko.jpg

What do you think? Will you help me to keep finding spots?

Matknapers18
05-29-2015, 04:28 PM
Wow this is super awesome, great work! :D

Looking at that map and seeing all the labelled locations is actually really exciting. For me personally, I've never seen so many recognisable landmarks in a AC game. Westminister and the Strand in particular have such a great catalog of historical sites, almost every one listed rings a bell in my mind. This is the first AC game where I can genuinely see myself postponing the main quests to just go and visit all the famous buildings. In fact, if your map is accurate, it could be really helpful to have as a companion whilst playing the game. Assuming that landmarks aren't labelled on the in game map. I don't think they were in Unity.

Lets just hope that we get interiors for at least the most significant buildings. Walking around in Buckingham Palace would be sweet.

Shahkulu101
05-29-2015, 05:32 PM
Nice work mate. Really interesting.

Although I hope the actual map is a lot bigger than that to be honest. Hopefully the promotional materials aren't true reflections.

KimSul
05-30-2015, 03:10 AM
With the information you have given, the play-able map looks kinda small compared to Paris :/ (I know they said it is suppose to be bigger but it just looks smaller)

niempe-67
05-30-2015, 07:16 AM
With the information you have given, the play-able map looks kinda small compared to Paris :/ (I know they said it is suppose to be bigger but it just looks smaller)

I agree. And it is even smaller because you can travel faster.

Cornik22
05-30-2015, 09:49 PM
Wow this is super awesome, great work! http://static5.cdn.ubi.com/u/ubiforums/20130918.419/images/smilies/biggrin.png

Thank you! ;)


This is the first AC game where I can genuinely see myself postponing the main quests to just go and visit all the famous building

I always do that, and let me tell you someting. I've found landmarks in Unity that weren't in the in-game database or the app, like the Banque de France, Bureau de Poste or L'ecole de Botanique, just to name a few. So yeah, we'll have to keep our eyes open.


Although I hope the actual map is a lot bigger than that to be honest. Hopefully the promotional materials aren't true reflections.

I doubt it, all 3 different sources (maps and demo) match perfectly. I'm being optimistic, though. I hope they include the Tower of London and Tower Bridge (for example) in time rifts like they did with the Eiffel tower or the Liberty Statue in Unity. Let's cross our fingers.


With the information you have given, the play-able map looks kinda small compared to Paris

Agree 100%. I`ve always thought that, if they ever set an AC game in victorian London, it would look something like this (work in progress, done by myself)

http://i60.tinypic.com/29n9dnp.jpg


I agree. And it is even smaller because you can travel faster.

We'll have to wait and see.

Sushiglutton
05-31-2015, 03:43 PM
Impressive stuff! Hopefully we get to rob the bank of England!

Cornik22
05-31-2015, 11:07 PM
Impressive stuff! Hopefully we get to rob the bank of England!

Thanks! At one point in the demo we see the Bank of England from the inside, so the possibility is there, for sure. Another picture shows an assassin infiltrating Buckingham Palace, so again, highly possible ;)

Cornik22
06-02-2015, 03:35 PM
Great, I've located another landmark! :D This time it's the Holborn Viaduct, a road bridge built between 1863 and 1869 to improve traffic flow and distribution around the new Holborn Circus (check the map below). You can also see St. Paul's cathedral and a train in the distance:

http://i59.tinypic.com/15ejojq.jpg

The bridge itself is pretty well done, full of detail. Check this pictures of the real thing as a reference, then and now:

http://i58.tinypic.com/k2mk5t.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/23hodqs.jpg

The only thing I'm missing are the four figurative statues that adorned its parapets, representing commerce and agriculture on the south side, science and fine art on the north side. The statues in the game are male and look very different.

http://i59.tinypic.com/m8iafq.jpg

Cornik22
06-03-2015, 11:21 PM
Even more :D

Parliament Square (to the west of the Big Ben and Palace of Westminster)

http://i59.tinypic.com/2rrl8he.jpg

Bank Junction (looking West, with Mansion House to the left and St. Paul's Cathedral in the distance).

http://i62.tinypic.com/wv5tg4.jpg

Bank Junction (same place but looking east. You can see the Royal Exchange to the right and the Bank of England to the left).

http://i59.tinypic.com/11jrn8m.jpg

ze_topazio
06-04-2015, 02:33 AM
Can't wait to climb dat St. Paul's Cathedral.

btw this map of London in 1868 is pretty detailed and good quality.

http://london1868.com/weller01.htm

dimbismp
06-04-2015, 11:06 AM
People shouldn't worry.Every little dot in the map is a huge building.Let's not forget that the devs stated that London will be bigger than Paris(also 5 times the size of Rome iirc)
What should worry you is the extremely wide streets and how alive the city will feel,because bigger=/=better.

Finally,awesome work OP,i used to do such work for Paris

strigoi1958
06-04-2015, 02:34 PM
People shouldn't worry.Every little dot in the map is a huge building.Let's not forget that the devs stated that London will be bigger than Paris(also 5 times the size of Rome iirc)
What should worry you is the extremely wide streets and how alive the city will feel,because bigger=/=better.

Finally,awesome work OP,i used to do such work for Paris

Wow... :eek:

Many thanks to Cornik22 for taking the time and effort to do that for us :D

London was (and is) full of little back streets and the docks are huge so there would be lots of places to explore even in a small map but if Ubi are making it bigger than paris I'm stunned, I played Unity yesterday and the number of NPC's and all the buildings we can enter are amazing still.

Cornik22
06-05-2015, 11:07 AM
btw this map of London in 1868 is pretty detailed and good quality. http://london1868.com/weller01.htm (http://london1868.com/weller01.htm)

That's the map I've been using as reference! :) To figure out, for example, that the Royal Courts of Justice didn't exist yet (and won't be in the game) or where the Holborn Viaduct was.


People shouldn't worry.Every little dot in the map is a huge building.Let's not forget that the devs stated that London will be bigger than Paris. What should worry you is the extremely wide streets and how alive the city will feel,because bigger=/=better.

Agree, although some of us expected it to be bigger. I miss Hyde park or the Tower of London, for example.


Many thanks to Cornik22 for taking the time and effort to do that for us http://static5.cdn.ubi.com/u/ubiforums/20130918.419/images/smilies/biggrin.png

Thank you for your interest ;)

Cornik22
06-06-2015, 07:37 PM
Now that we are so close to the E3 and a new demo, I tought it would be fun to "map" the first gameplay demo. Enjoy! :p

http://i62.tinypic.com/2qjwoys.jpg

1- First, we see the backside of St Paul’s cathedral from Watling Street.
2- Then the “Seven Bells” tavern, located in Cannon Street, close to the cathedral. The name is probably a reference to the real “Ten Bells” tavern located in the East End. Two victims of Jack the Ripper, Annie Chapman and Mary Kelley, used to spend time there drinking and picking up clients.
3- Once Jacob leaves the tavern, he gets on the coach and travels across Cannon Street…
4- …until he turns to the left to King William Street. You can even see the statue of King William IV for a moment. This statue was relocated in 1935 to the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich.
5- Finally, he turns to the right to confront a rival gang inside a group of buildings close to Bank junction.


http://i58.tinypic.com/16byert.jpg

1- Jacob leaves the place chasing Bloody Nora. If you look behind him as he steals a carriage, you can see the Bank of England and the equestrian statue of the Duke of Wellington.
2- He follows the inverse route seen before. Crossing King William Street… (again, we can see the statue of King William IV and the Southwark bridge in front of it)
3- … to the right through Cannon Street… (you can see the “Seven Bells” to the left for a second)…
4- … again to the right, crossing Victoria Street…
5- … then to the left ramming innocent people in Watling Street (the same from the first shot)...
6- … and finally reaching St Paul’s churchyard, moving straight to Ludgate Hill. And then the fight starts, so thats all.

m4r-k7
06-06-2015, 07:44 PM
^ Wow thanks so much for mapping all of this out!

Really hoping for a more atmospheric E3 demo - fog, darkness, weather etc!

blazerpika
06-07-2015, 02:20 AM
Great thread. Like others have said hopefully for E3 the demo showcases the foggy,gloomy and overall dark feeling of this era.

rrebe
06-07-2015, 08:11 AM
Now that we are so close to the E3 and a new demo, I tought it would be fun to "map" the first gameplay demo. Enjoy! :p

http://i62.tinypic.com/2qjwoys.jpg

1- First, we see the backside of St Paul’s cathedral from Watling Street.
2- Then the “Seven Bells” tavern, located in Cannon Street, close to the cathedral. The name is probably a reference to the real “Ten Bells” tavern located in the East End. Two victims of Jack the Ripper, Annie Chapman and Mary Kelley, used to spend time there drinking and picking up clients.
3- Once Jacob leaves the tavern, he gets on the coach and travels across Cannon Street…
4- …until he turns to the left to King William Street. You can even see the statue of King William IV for a moment. This statue was relocated in 1935 to the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich.
5- Finally, he turns to the right to confront a rival gang inside a group of buildings close to Bank junction.


http://i58.tinypic.com/16byert.jpg

1- Jacob leaves the place chasing Bloody Nora. If you look behind him as he steals a carriage, you can see the Bank of England and the equestrian statue of the Duke of Wellington.
2- He follows the inverse route seen before. Crossing King William Street… (again, we can see the statue of King William IV and the Southwark bridge in front of it)
3- … to the right through Cannon Street… (you can see the “Seven Bells” to the left for a second)…
4- … again to the right, crossing Victoria Street…
5- … then to the left ramming innocent people in Watling Street (the same from the first shot)...
6- … and finally reaching St Paul’s churchyard, moving straight to Ludgate Hill. And then the fight starts, so thats all.

Nice work! :eek:

niempe-67
06-07-2015, 08:22 AM
Now that we are so close to the E3 and a new demo, I tought it would be fun to "map" the first gameplay demo. Enjoy! :p

1- First, we see the backside of St Paul’s cathedral from Watling Street.
2- Then the “Seven Bells” tavern, located in Cannon Street, close to the cathedral. The name is probably a reference to the real “Ten Bells” tavern located in the East End. Two victims of Jack the Ripper, Annie Chapman and Mary Kelley, used to spend time there drinking and picking up clients.
3- Once Jacob leaves the tavern, he gets on the coach and travels across Cannon Street…
4- …until he turns to the left to King William Street. You can even see the statue of King William IV for a moment. This statue was relocated in 1935 to the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich.
5- Finally, he turns to the right to confront a rival gang inside a group of buildings close to Bank junction.


1- Jacob leaves the place chasing Bloody Nora. If you look behind him as he steals a carriage, you can see the Bank of England and the equestrian statue of the Duke of Wellington.
2- He follows the inverse route seen before. Crossing King William Street… (again, we can see the statue of King William IV and the Southwark bridge in front of it)
3- … to the right through Cannon Street… (you can see the “Seven Bells” to the left for a second)…
4- … again to the right, crossing Victoria Street…
5- … then to the left ramming innocent people in Watling Street (the same from the first shot)...
6- … and finally reaching St Paul’s churchyard, moving straight to Ludgate Hill. And then the fight starts, so thats all.

Splendid job! I hope we see more of these after E3 ;-)

Cornik22
06-08-2015, 02:30 PM
Really hoping for a more atmospheric E3 demo - fog, darkness, weather etc!

Agree 100%. I was a bit disappointed with the first gameplay becase it was the opposite of that, but now let's wait and see.


Splendid job! I hope we see more of these after E3 ;-)

You can bet on that ;)

As I mentioned before, the statue of King William IV can be seen twice during the demo:

http://i58.tinypic.com/2upsadz.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/m9yde1.jpg

Originally erected, December 1844, in the City, at the junction of King William Street and Cannon Street, facing down to London Bridge. He and his queen, Adelaide, had opened the Rennie London Bridge in 1831 so this was a good position. As traffic increased the statue had to be moved and the Greenwich Park site was chosen in 1935. The first statue in London in granite (a very hard stone), in the naturalistic style which was then new and fashionable. Seems the estimate for the job did not allow for the difficulties that granite presented; Nixon's finances were nearly ruined by this commission.

http://i60.tinypic.com/dd26x4.jpg

BananaBlighter
06-08-2015, 05:39 PM
Great job Cornik on all this stuff.

Cornik22
06-09-2015, 05:32 PM
Great job Cornik on all this stuff

Thanks!

The Bank of England can be seen several times in the demo and the gameplay video. These two are the best moments:

http://i57.tinypic.com/2m3r9zb.jpg

http://i59.tinypic.com/2rddi5d.jpg

Some info: The Bank of England, formally the Governor and Company of the Bank of England, is the central bank of the United Kingdom and the model on which most modern central banks have been based. Established in 1694, it is the second oldest central bank in the world and the world's 8th oldest bank. It was established to act as the English Government's banker, and is still the banker for the Government of the United Kingdom.

The Bank's headquarters have been in London's main financial district, the City of London, on Threadneedle Street, since 1734. It is sometimes known by the metonym The Old Lady of Threadneedle Street or The Old Lady, a name taken from the legend of Sarah Whitehead, whose ghost is said to haunt the Bank's garden.

From the gameplay video, we know that 1-The bank has an interior and 2- the bank can be entered through a window on the roof, which leads me to believe there will be some kind of heist mission in the game.

Cornik22
06-13-2015, 05:58 PM
Thanks to forum member m4r-k7, we can now take a look at the full map (including the missing top right corner). The quality is not superb, but it will do for now.

http://i60.tinypic.com/iokf2v.jpg

Some things that I've noticed:

- The Tower of London is listed, which is a surprise. I'm still not convinced 100% that it will be in the game (at least in the map), but it give us hope.

- There is another train station in Whitechapel, more than likely Whitechapel Station (although it originally opened in 1876).

rob.davies2014
07-03-2015, 03:17 PM
Does anyone know if Queen Anne's Square is included in this map? I think it may be too far north but I'm not sure.

Just wondering if we're going to see the Kenway Manor in Syndicate....

It would be a nice way of tying the games together...


Actually it probably will be since Queen Anne's Square is south west of the Charles ****ens museum. So if the Charles ****ens icon is his house/museum then we should have Queen Anne's Square with the Kenway Manor.

andre982d
09-05-2015, 07:57 PM
Lambeth Asylum

http://i60.tinypic.com/2m6antz.jpg

http://oi60.tinypic.com/16a3d52.jpg

andre982d
09-05-2015, 08:17 PM
Trafalgar Square & Nelson's Column

http://oi61.tinypic.com/35jdu88.jpg

http://oi60.tinypic.com/70i4nk.jpg

http://oi59.tinypic.com/30uy1d3.jpg

andre982d
09-05-2015, 09:00 PM
Buckingham Palace

http://oi62.tinypic.com/2la930k.jpg

http://oi61.tinypic.com/1qfhpx.jpg

http://oi57.tinypic.com/16bj4ok.jpg

http://oi59.tinypic.com/2j62qg4.jpg

http://oi62.tinypic.com/5cjeyu.jpg

http://oi57.tinypic.com/2h2fivt.jpg

AnExplodingDodo
09-06-2015, 12:21 PM
What the twins trailer revealed to us is something I've been suspecting all along. I always thought if Cannon Street station isn't in the game there is something not right.
http://orig14.deviantart.net/1a81/f/2015/249/6/e/cannon_street_by_thesunchildren-d98keak.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Cannon_Street_Station_2.jpg

Still there today, but looks a little different (worse)
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/1290388261/med_gallery_6760_1241_63900.jpg

The inclusion of this station was a no-brainer to me. It is one of the iconic stations of the era. I highly doubt we'll get Kings Cross (1852) or St Pancras (1868) though, which is a shame. This also shows us how the map has had to be squashed a bit. IRL Cannon Street is east of St Pauls, whereas in the game it is clearly placed west of it.

The only other thing it could be is Blackfriars station, (Farringdon Street has also been mentioned for this), but Blackfriars never really had a massive structure on the banks of the Thames. Where I have circled on the map below is where I'm guessing they're placing Cannon Street, where Blackfriars should be down Farringdon Road. This should link on directly from Holborn Viaduct. (I visited London the other day and had a look at the area, there's a lot they're probably going to rearrange)

http://img08.deviantart.net/3740/i/2015/249/6/4/cannon_street_station_by_thesunchildren-d98kfwb.png

With ****ens' location on the map, I've a feeling they're moving his house from Doughty Street (off of Grays Inn Road, just south of King's Cross) to wherever it is now. The ****ens Museum is where he lived until his death in 1870. I went to have a look the other day. If Kings Cross isn't in the game, Doughty Street wouldn;t be so it is understandable if they do this.

http://orig09.deviantart.net/2abf/f/2015/249/8/0/charles_chickens_museum_by_thesunchildren-d98kjug.jpg

One thing i must ask, because it is stumping me big time. This shot in the trailer:

http://orig07.deviantart.net/71aa/f/2015/249/9/e/area_in_question_by_thesunchildren-d98kikg.png

What are the two buildings outlined?? The large one MUST be a station. The roof suggests it cannot be anything else. I have been looking through different stations of the period, and as far as the one in the picture goes, it doesn't exist. The only redbrick station in that rough direction is St Pancras, but that isn't how St Pancras looks. Im also not sure about the building in front. It looks reminiscent of Westminster Cathedral, or even some brewery with chimneys. This shot has had me scratching my head for too long!

EmptyCrustacean
09-06-2015, 01:23 PM
Slightly off-topic. Do you think we'll ever get an AC game where there's more than one city but each city is as big as London?

andre982d
09-06-2015, 04:11 PM
1. Cleopatra's Needle is an authentic Egyptian obelisk in London. In the early nineteenth century the more than three thousand-year-old obelisk was transported to London from its original site in Egypt.
There are three obelisks known as 'Cleopatra's Needle': the first one was installed in Paris at the center of the Place de la Concorde. The other two are located in New York - in Central Park - and London, on the Embankment near the Victoria Embankment Gardens.

2. Blackfriars Bridge railway station.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/3521xz7.jpg

http://oi61.tinypic.com/149d16a.jpg

http://oi62.tinypic.com/nx95oh.jpg

AnExplodingDodo
09-06-2015, 05:13 PM
2. Blackfriars Bridge railway station.[/B]

http://oi57.tinypic.com/3521xz7.jpg



This is the region I was talking about. Blackfriars Bridge station was never a huge building. The bridge itself isn't even the right model. I think what we'll find they've done is whacked the Cannon Street model on top of where Blackfriars is, rename it Blackfriars, and then they've added in the Charing Cross bridge model which they seem to have used for every railway bridge over the Thames (they even used it for Chelsea Bridge in the pre-alpha stuff)

Charing Cross railway bridge:

http://www.bristol.ac.uk/civilengineering/bridges/Images/Hanging/England/London/Hungerford/CharingCross/Charing03.jpg

Nothing against this, if this is the decision, I just enjoy that they've used models even if they aren't using their real locations.

andre982d
09-06-2015, 06:16 PM
1. The Temple Church is a late 12th-century church in the City of London located between Fleet Street and the River Thames, built by the Knights Templar as their English headquarters.

2. Blackfriars Bridge railway station (?).

3. St Paul's Cathedral.

http://oi59.tinypic.com/vhwacn.jpg

http://oi59.tinypic.com/153ll44.jpg

http://oi57.tinypic.com/nmyi43.jpg

http://oi60.tinypic.com/2uihxxi.jpg

flyin-bart
09-06-2015, 06:16 PM
Great thread guy's........nice work.

Something I've just noticed watching the London Horizon Trailer, at 0:36 into it is that the "Seven Bells" tavern there? if it is they have re-named it "Public House" :( I assume this is the latest build they are using as it's the latest video to be released? Hope this is an earlier build and they stick with the "Seven Bells" name on release.

andre982d
09-06-2015, 07:10 PM
1. The Alhambra, Leicester Square.
The building was known as the Royal Panopticon of Science and Art between 1854-1858. It reopened as the Alhambra Circus in 1858.

"famous London music-hall whose ornate Moorish-style architecture dominated the east side of Leicester Square. It opened on 18 Mar. 1854 under E. T. Smith as the Panopticon, but with little success, and in 1858 was first called the Alhambra (Palace), retaining the name through successive changes of title (Music-Hall, Palace of Varieties, Theatre, etc.). In 1860 extensive alterations were made to the building and a stage was installed so that it could for the first time be used as a music-hall. "

The "Odeon Cinema, Leicester Square" was built on the site in 1937.

http://oi58.tinypic.com/9an8dk.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Leicester_Square_with_the_Alhambra_formerly_the_Ro yal_Panopticon_ILN_1874.jpg

http://oi62.tinypic.com/34pf5mp.jpg

http://oi60.tinypic.com/27zx0mt.jpg

http://oi59.tinypic.com/ayu05l.jpg

http://oi62.tinypic.com/10oi1og.jpg



the Charing Cross bridge model which they seem to have used for every railway bridge over the Thames

I just enjoy that they've used models even if they aren't using their real locations.

:(

andre982d
09-06-2015, 08:17 PM
1. St Martin-in-the-Fields is an English Anglican church at the north-east corner of Trafalgar Square in the City of Westminster, London. It is dedicated to Saint Martin of Tours. There has been a church on the site since the medieval period. The present building was constructed in a Neoclassical design by James Gibbs in 1722–1726.

http://oi59.tinypic.com/33cykao.jpghttp://oi59.tinypic.com/1zp1u0l.jpg

http://oi57.tinypic.com/ddyoo1.jpg

AnExplodingDodo
09-06-2015, 10:57 PM
[B][SIZE=2]

http://oi59.tinypic.com/ayu05l.jpg

http://oi62.tinypic.com/10oi1og.jpg

:(

That circled area of greenery, it is there in a map of London from 1868. It would seem they have just bumped it closer. What is interesting about your map provided is pre 1864 at least, given the inclusion of Brunel's Hungerford (Charing Cross) Suspension footbridge. The greenery doesn't appear to be there. Might look into whether this parkland was fabricated later on. The dark square to the right may well be the Royal Panopticon?

http://orig12.deviantart.net/28c5/f/2015/249/a/8/leicester_square_by_thesunchildren-d98mw61.png

The more and more I look at the map we've been given the more I fear it'll change and expand (first clue being the inclusion of the tower of London. This shot in the horizon trailer suggest the map goes even beyond it:
http://orig07.deviantart.net/8da3/f/2015/249/1/2/beyond_the_tower_by_thesunchildren-d98mvqk.png

1. This is whereabouts the Tower of London is, looks like it goes beyond.

2. Don't know what some of those buildings are, but look, yet again; another usage of the 'Charing Cross' bridge...like I said. It is definitely different because there is no vaulted station building on the end of it.

Cornik22
09-08-2015, 05:57 PM
I don't know what you guys are talking about :confused: The last circled area is Picadilly Circus. And the Tower of London is not in the main map (as I always suspected), it's out of bounds and can only be visited in certain missions, at least one. You can cleary see that in the last trailer, where the Tower is nowhere to be seen where it should be.

AnExplodingDodo
09-18-2015, 08:15 PM
Starting off about a post i made here before.
http://orig15.deviantart.net/07d1/f/2015/261/1/8/area_in_question_by_thesunchildren-d9a0rsj.png

I previously speculated that this could be St Pancras Station because it looked like a red-brick station, St Pancras being the only one at the time, and the only one in that direction, but i played this down due to it not looking like the same shape. It now seems certain that this is the case, but as I feared, they have made it their own version with a fictional layout.

http://orig01.deviantart.net/62c8/f/2015/261/9/4/st_pancras_numbered2_by_thesunchildren-d9a15i9.png

http://orig02.deviantart.net/0b93/f/2015/261/9/0/st_pancras_numbered_by_thesunchildren-d9a15q2.png

http://orig03.deviantart.net/5b8e/f/2015/261/8/e/st_pancras_tower_by_thesunchildren-d9a0vq1.png

When the Jack the Ripper trailer came out, there was a clock tower featured that i instantly recognised, having seen it in person recently. It was that of St Pancras. Suspicions were confirmed, and I got very excited that we may get King's Cross, but I don't think it'll happen, and here's why;

A recent unboxing video revealed that the top left station is indeed St Pancras, but it is facing the wrong way (so it can connect to another station, which I'll go onto)

http://orig09.deviantart.net/1cec/f/2015/261/7/9/st_pancras_map_by_thesunchildren-d9a0w04.png

I then went back through previous trailers, and I watched the London Horizon trailer again. I realised that St Pancras (or their version) was in it all along. It is rather different, but there are a few features which give it away, when looking at this comparison;

http://orig13.deviantart.net/287a/f/2015/261/8/6/st_pancras_arches_by_thesunchildren-d9a0wcm.png

The reason I picked this station out was because it doesn't look like any other station I have ever seen in pictures, so it must be fictional, and it is also red brick, a huge giveaway.

So I don't know if others will agree, but this seems to be the case, that they have used models once again and placed them where they want, to serve as fictional re-imaginings of real locations.

Here's what the real building looks like for those that don't know;

http://orig01.deviantart.net/86ab/f/2015/261/4/0/st_pancras_by_thesunchildren-d9a101z.png

Next to King's Cross

http://orig06.deviantart.net/8205/f/2015/261/3/1/kings_cross_st_pancras_by_thesunchildren-d9a10j7.jpg

This leads me onto another query. I have already given fair evidence that they are using some building models for other purposes, well it seems like another may be evident. In the unboxing video, it also shows another station;

http://orig07.deviantart.net/6631/f/2015/261/d/3/old_street_by_thesunchildren-d9a0xyt.png

Old Street Station. A station didn't exist here until 1901. This leads me to speculate that we may either be getting a model of Bishopsgate Station or something else. The space taken by the buildings looks large, and even in the modern day, Old Street is only an underground station. This suggests it is overground. It must be another building being used.

And also, I'll leave you with this;

http://orig10.deviantart.net/f3e7/f/2015/261/6/3/kemway_mansion_by_thesunchildren-d9a0zfc.png

"Kenway Mansion?"

Senningiri_GR
09-19-2015, 08:19 AM
Hi there! I’m quite surprised no one has started one of this threads for ACS yet, so I guess it will have to be me ;) Ok, so the first thing I did was work with the 2 known sources for the in-game map, one from the “Rooks edition” and the other one leaked from a closed doors presentation. These two:

http://i60.tinypic.com/33vf90j.jpg

So I mixed them together to create one map with every district in it, this one:

http://i58.tinypic.com/2akkle.jpg

Later, I studied all the promotional materials (demo, trailers and pictures) to try to identify as many landmarks as possible, with the help of a real London map from 1868 (to be more specific, the one by Edward Weller, that you can check here (http://london1868.com/weller44.htm)). It is a rough approximation. Some of these places may not be in the final version, and of course there will be many more we haven’t seen yet. So take it as you wish ;):

http://i59.tinypic.com/r8i7bn.jpg

But the search is far from over! There are still a lot of to discover, like I did in this picture:

http://i60.tinypic.com/2prbpko.jpg

What do you think? Will you help me to keep finding spots?

I will definitely try to measure the map and find the map size as it is said that it is 30% larger than the 2.440.000 m2 of Paris area (http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1248842-Assassin-s-Creed-Map-Comparisons). As it is in this size if we take 2.440.000*0,3 we have about 750.000 so I think it London will have an area of approximately 3.170.000 m2. But anyway it might be wrong as Rome was not three times Florence but larger. I really hope we won't have only this map but also some countryside of England.

andre982d
09-27-2015, 04:49 PM
Westminster Abbey

http://oi59.tinypic.com/24q49xx.jpg

http://oi61.tinypic.com/2mfy7hy.jpg

http://oi58.tinypic.com/29xj85i.jpg

http://oi60.tinypic.com/2v8k0zs.jpg

http://oi57.tinypic.com/n48jur.jpg