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09-13-2004, 06:08 PM
hello, new guy here. im going to buy pacific fighters and was wondering if i should buy il-2 as well. any suggestions. tell me why you enjoy this game so much. the last flight sim i bought was european air war, which i loved. does il-2 have the same feel as eaw? better or worse. sell me on this game. the graphcis look awsome, but hows the gameplay? any big bugs or hang ups in the game? thanks for any help you can give me

09-13-2004, 06:08 PM
hello, new guy here. im going to buy pacific fighters and was wondering if i should buy il-2 as well. any suggestions. tell me why you enjoy this game so much. the last flight sim i bought was european air war, which i loved. does il-2 have the same feel as eaw? better or worse. sell me on this game. the graphcis look awsome, but hows the gameplay? any big bugs or hang ups in the game? thanks for any help you can give me

09-13-2004, 06:15 PM
yes buy it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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09-13-2004, 06:16 PM

Personally, I would buy Il*2 Sturmovik:Forgotten battles Gold Pack as well.

two reasons:

one, you will have a huge number of planes with both

two, you will be 'on the same page' so to speak with the majority of the Il*2 community

Plus, it's a very fun thing

There are flaws with the game, of course. No game is perfect. Il*2:FB has huge support from the maker. Check out Oleg's Ready Room for a taste of what gets brought up, and more often than not, these thigns actually do get looked at by the developer

This sim gives the best sensation of flight of any I have played, Aces of the Pacific on up through EAW to the CFS series.

However, if you are looking for long range missions like escort missions in EAW, you are going to be disappointed. The maps are relatively small. Some maps in FB are pretty big, but you won't be flying from England to Berlin, for example

The Il*2 Community has a HUGE amount of resources. Campaigns, missions, skins, you name it. You will not be disappointed. Check out il2skins.com for some really tasty pics of skins.

Game performance will of course depend on your hardware...

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09-13-2004, 06:27 PM
PF is going to be a stand alone game but it will be possible to combine PF with FB+AEP and have all the planes ever made flyable in this game.In short if you want to play PF only buy PF or if you want to have all the planes`n maps you can add FB Gold pack.

You can see that most of us are full time addicts with FB+AEP.It is the only game I upgrade or buy game controllers for and it`s the first to get on my HD and last to get off it.
I haven`t played EAW but I get opinions like FBAEP is a well planned flightsim evolution.

I like FBAEP becuz:

-the code is very good so no hang ups,hardware or online playing problems occur

-flight and damage model is the best ever created in flightsims

-we`ve been having developer support since 2002

-we get new planes for free

-a nice community has gathered around FBAEP and does great job creating campaigns,skins,aircraft

-completely stunning flyable aircraft number

-FBAEP suits hardcore simmers but arcade players aswell

-FBAEP code is known only by developers

-you get to meet ppl above 20years of age

Those are only few reasons I can think of right now,too much to say about good sides of the game.


Self-proclaimed dedicated Willywhiner since July 2002

09-13-2004, 06:29 PM
I cant speak for EAW. IL2 was good. Forgotten Battles is better. In my humble opinion of course. I would suggest you go ahead and buy the Aces Expansion pack GOLD which has Forgotten Battles and The Aces Expansion. Then come here and get patch 2.01 and 2.04. The game play is great.. you can see the graphics from screenshots but unless you actually see it you are missing out. If you HAVE seen it .... like say at your local Best Buy or something then as far as the gameplay goes...... that is highly dependent on your rig. In my opinion to get the best butter from this sim you need at least a 1.5GHZ,768MBRAM,R9200 or Nvidia Ti4600,SBAudigy1 system..... that is minimum. You can run it on less but you will have to tone down the settings considerably and limit the amount of planes in the air. If you have a system that is better than that then your enjoyment factor will increase accordingly. The AI is the best I have ever seen.. the DMs are awesome.. no hit bubbles or collision bubbles..... The FMs are top notch. I recommend you not skimp on the stick. $79 today for a Saitek X45 is better than spending $39 twice on some Logitech stick (They aret made very well IMO)and you will if you go low end. The sim is very scalable you can go from cant die or run out of ammo with on screen markings to identify targets and padlock to keep them in view to stunningly rendered cockpits with no writing whatsoever on the screen... you will have to use your compass and look at the controls to get a handle on where your settings are. And you better keep your head on a swivel. Aircraft controls? Prop pitch,radiator,flaps,fire extinguisher,manual landing gear (of course auto too)seperate engine start and much more. Dis I mention the working K-14 gunsight on the P-51D20? A mindboggling planeset from 1939 to 1945. Jets, biplanes, Russian,German,Italian,Japanese,Bfitish and American planes... al the usual suspects.... and some new ones... some that other sims are just beginning to include with any hint of quality. The sim is closed source so there are no mods... no souped up hotrods flying like jets but looking like P-47s. You can be pretty sure that the guy who shot you down did so because either he was a better pilot or you made the last mistake. The developer has to approve any new planes that come in and we usually get them with a patch. The community...... what can I say.. a dazzling array of talent from all over the globe. Look at the Who we are thread stickied up top to see what I mean. What we lack as an open sourced sim community we make up for with other stuff. Go to the Sturmovik Essentials thread in my sig and be on your way to seeing just how much is out here. AirWarfare.com is one of the most complete comprehensive air combat sim sights around... and it is a work in progress. You can get everything the from tweaks for your setup as far as sound and video go to Luckyboy's guide. IL2 Mat and IL2 STAB are great utilities.... the UQMG is a little gem that lets you create full scale missions with quick mission ease. Missions... did i mention the mission builder? It is a bit cumbersome at first.. but it is interesting. If nothing else it will get you set for PF. If you liked EAW from all I have heard about it you will love this sim. If you are a warbird affectionado.. you will love this sim. It is tons of fun.. it is the only sim I have ever flown that I can enjoy even after I have been shot down. I prefer coop missions to the usual dogfight stuff.. but there are some very good, well run dogfight servers on Hyperlobby.. which is where we all go to fly... also in the Essentials thread. Buy it........ you wont regret it.

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[This message was edited by Bearcat99 on Mon September 13 2004 at 05:55 PM.]

09-13-2004, 08:15 PM
Yes, what Bear said. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif


Bear ease off the single paragraph thing. The Monster paragraphs frighten the Newbies.

Hurts my eyes too, get dry. I must close eyes so they get watered and pick up reading again--when I find the spot I was reading before I closed eyes.

Now, back to reading. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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09-13-2004, 08:43 PM
yes use proper 'cloud spacing'... not to 'water' Lexx's eyes. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/cry.gif

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09-13-2004, 08:51 PM
For one, game play is awsome.

I not only have FBAEP, but also CF3. Let me tell ya, CF3's game play does not even compare to FBAEP.

What are you wating for? Head down to the local computer software store.

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09-14-2004, 04:11 AM
I loved EAW but it's now my 2nd love and has been since the original IL2 Sturmovik.



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