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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 12:33 PM
The so called "Dedicated" Server 1.11 only works with ubi.com.

Why restricting the DS to the ubi.com game service??


This is not very user friendly, especially since many people are having problems with hosting at ubi.com via router, but can host at Hyperlobby or via direct IP in multiplayer mode without any problems.

A dedicated server, however, typically runs on a separate CPU from within a local network connected to the internet via router.

So what shall those people do with the Dedicated Server besides trashing it ?


The hosting via router problem was introduced at ubi,com when 1.1b came out. It also affects people using ICS or with more than 1 network card installed, see also:
http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_ts&id=zwefm
or
http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_ts&id=zwefj

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 12:33 PM
The so called "Dedicated" Server 1.11 only works with ubi.com.

Why restricting the DS to the ubi.com game service??


This is not very user friendly, especially since many people are having problems with hosting at ubi.com via router, but can host at Hyperlobby or via direct IP in multiplayer mode without any problems.

A dedicated server, however, typically runs on a separate CPU from within a local network connected to the internet via router.

So what shall those people do with the Dedicated Server besides trashing it ?


The hosting via router problem was introduced at ubi,com when 1.1b came out. It also affects people using ICS or with more than 1 network card installed, see also:
http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_ts&id=zwefm
or
http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_ts&id=zwefj

schofei

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 12:44 PM
I am glad I waited to download it.. Did so on purpose until I could read some posts about it. I personally don't fly on ubi, but I'm not knocking it neither. I just like HL. Better servers. But, if that is one thing ubi needs is a dedicated server. I thought that ubi would host a dedicated room like they do for the original IL-2. Looks like they are going to leave that up to individuals that are willing to use their resources. But isn't that what dedicated means, you know 24-7. I don't think you will find that on ubi, unlike HL. But, I guess it is a wait and see since the server was just released a couple of days ago. There wasn't anyone willing to provide a dedicated place to fly on ubi before the server was released, don't know why that would change now. Just my thoughts. S!

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 12:46 PM
you could see by the shear size (+300Meg) that this 'dedicated' server is almost pure BS.

Many persons don't believe me, but that size is simply ridiculous for a dedicated server!




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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 12:49 PM
If it cant be used with HL its useless, what a waste 9hrs + dl overnight becuase of ubi slow ftp with cable.




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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 01:07 PM
That and it alos only runs Dog Fight server.
I needed this to run on MY SERVER not UBI !!


SO yes the it seems as it is of no value to me either..or am I missing something here??

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 01:08 PM
this dedicated server thing is a total s**t a 350mb download when 99.999999999999% of the data coming with that thing is included in the il2 fb game folder... to top it off you get no front end, gotta rely on ubi's router etc etc... unbelievable, how could ubi release such a piece of junk they are ridicolous

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 01:25 PM
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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 01:34 PM
hi,
that's a typical syndrom...between developer/publisher
and users...

called 'False Consensus Effect'

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 02:01 PM
Striker-PBNA wrote:
- I am glad I waited to download it.. Did so on
- purpose until I could read some posts about it. I
- personally don't fly on ubi, but I'm not knocking it
- neither. I just like HL. Better servers. But, if
- that is one thing ubi needs is a dedicated server. I
- thought that ubi would host a dedicated room like
- they do for the original IL-2. Looks like they are
- going to leave that up to individuals that are
- willing to use their resources. But isn't that what
- dedicated means, you know 24-7. I don't think you
- will find that on ubi, unlike HL. But, I guess it is
- a wait and see since the server was just released a
- couple of days ago. There wasn't anyone willing to
- provide a dedicated place to fly on ubi before the
- server was released, don't know why that would
- change now. Just my thoughts. S!
-
-

Actually for the past year and a half TX Squadron ran our server on UBI and only recently switched to HL, perhaps in the last month or so. We were very successful running IL2 and FB there but switched primarily due to ever increasing technical issues with the UBI game service. We had maintained our server there and kept it running as close to 24/7 as possible within the limitations of current hosting methods.

I enjoy both UBI and HL pilots and have been fortunate to make quite a number of friends in both lobbies.

With the dedicated server being pointed at UBI, perhaps we will return there (seeing as we have no option otherwise). If we do, our plan is to run as many as 4 dedicated sessions with varying difficulty, script and plane set parameters.



I'm working on a tutorial of sorts for setting up a dedicated server because as mentioned, the readme is rather limited. I'll post what I have later today hopefully.



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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 03:05 PM
this is terrible news ! i have such a sucky cable in the building i cant host ...... and its driving me nuts !!!!

i have made a deal to host the server on a fat connection in an unnamed company and was looking VERY MUCH forward to setting up the machine - diskspace i will not have a lot of at this server since they run 18Gb SCSI disks but CPU power is phenominal ..... now i will have to install the whole gigabyte of FB on the server and run remote administrator server to be able to operate FB and the FBDaemon script just like i planned in the first place.

useless download that was !

and i am not interrested in hosting at the UBI.COM gameservice - as long as hyperlobby is there. i have never hosted at UBI and i don't plan to try it even.

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 03:07 PM
So, all in all it's not very good then/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 03:18 PM
I simply cannot login to ubi.com due to firewall settings.

Therefore I have to play on HyperLobby. Moreover, I like it there.

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 03:21 PM
Fresshness wrote:
- you could see by the shear size (+300Meg) that this
- 'dedicated' server is almost pure BS.
-
- Many persons don't believe me, but that size is
- simply ridiculous for a dedicated server!
-

I belive you, I dont think it should be more than 50mb if that more like 10 or 15 it should interact with the game thats already installed on the hard drive of the dedicated server

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 03:22 PM
Predator2811 wrote:
- I simply cannot login to ubi.com due to firewall
- settings.
-
- Therefore I have to play on HyperLobby. Moreover, I
- like it there.

You can take your Firewall off to play on UBI....but on the down side you could get a virus etc....

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 03:23 PM
Thx Zen

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XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 03:33 PM
Cool look forward to that instruction Zen.

XyZspineZyX
09-24-2003, 03:34 PM
I thought the same thing as well by reading the readme...

I havent been able to dl it cuz it keeps timing out on adsl LOL...

Petter_Gull sayes it should work on HL but somehow I dont think so the way the readme reads.


I realy see no reason to force us to use UBI's sight to host through thats not realy even considered a dedicated server. with a dedicated server you can host anywhere you please your not forced to host through any certain companys interface...

This is 1 of 2 things More of UBIs fanatical process of controling everything or some kind of whako markating ploy so that more people will come back & fly on there server sight where all there advos are....


Cant you guys do anything right just one time for us? we give the cash man give up the goods...

Been waiting near 3 years for this release & it turns out to be a Joke I knew something was wrong when the file was 300mb...

Simply Unbelivable !!!



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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 09:57 PM
Here is what Jiri says about the Dedicated Server and HL:

http://hyperfighter.jinak.cz/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=467

I just have tested this software, but its not good for anything ... I have start my test enviroment but the dedi server wont start. It can start together only with another game service (your internet connection must be active !!!). So i think its a propertiary software that cant be used as a "dedicated server" because its not dedicated server

Sorry to say but HL will not support this software, until it not get fixed for correct functionality ...

Jiri Fojtasek


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XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 10:27 PM
TX-Zen wrote:
- I'm working on a tutorial of sorts for setting up a
- dedicated server because as mentioned, the readme is
- rather limited. I'll post what I have later today
- hopefully.


I, and others I know, look forward to it! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-25-2003, 10:54 PM
Hi Veta mate ;-) you started trawling theses forums too then.

I have made lots of posts regarding this dedicated server since we started running it. Yes it would be nice to be able to ahve it work with HL but ubi com will do although the choice of IP join or HL would have been nice.

What I think is more important at this stage is teh ability just to admin the server. We can't even run different maps at this time.

I would have thought somone from Ubi would be keen to make this server a success as it will result in more sales for of their games.

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XyZspineZyX
09-26-2003, 12:38 AM
Come on UBI !!!
Get with the program!

Look at all the FPS games with dedicated servers..
They bring Thousands to the game..think of the sales!!!

This server patch is a poor excuse for trying to keep control.

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XyZspineZyX
09-26-2003, 01:06 AM
been trying to set this thing up all night - mr. hyperlobby says this is mot gonna work with his app ! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

deleting and trashing dedicated server ............. done

XyZspineZyX
09-26-2003, 01:54 AM
I'm glad that Ubi made the attempt, but I'm VERY unhappy with the dedicated server. I built a 2.8 GHZ Intel Machine to host at a high-speed datacenter, so that I could host a dedicated FB server, and this is what I get? I wish that Ubi wasn't the publisher of such a fine flight-sim. I wish it were a company like Epic that would make a Linux based dedicated server. One that would let you at LEAST direct connect to it.

UBI GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ARSSES!

If you give us the tools, we will promote your games! We will still complain, but we will ADD to your game.