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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 06:13 PM
This week's development update has been added to the site.

The update is available now by clicking here (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php).

T

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 06:13 PM
This week's development update has been added to the site.

The update is available now by clicking here (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php).

T

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 06:16 PM
Wow look at the captains work! Outstanding.

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 06:16 PM
Good stuff! That B-25 going to be flyable by any chance?

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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 06:19 PM
Wonderful!

The Gladiator pit is a work of art /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Oh, and btw, if we get the Tirpitz, plz may we have Lancasters w/Tallboys too? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 06:19 PM
~S~ Sir, Fantastic workmanship !

It gives us something to wish for come spring.

I hope that the sense of urgency for the 1.2 upgrade has ceased so that feedback from users of 1.2b can be applied to the final release.

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 06:28 PM
Wonderful!

Very glad, to see the Gladiator-cockpit, simply wonderful and imho the most authentic looking pit. Is this Captain Haddocks nearly photorealistic artwork? If it is so: chapeau and carry on! Make an end with the intolerable Gloster free zone in FB.


Za Rodinu !

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 06:33 PM
I hope you've hired the person who skinned that Gladiator cockpit if they are not already an employee!!!!!!

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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 06:37 PM
Much thanks "T", but it's still not..."The Patch!"

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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 06:44 PM
My God!!!!

Gladiator is fantastic!!!!!

A "CR 42" VS "Gladiator" dogfight will be great!

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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 06:50 PM
Better show us the true Gladiator cockpit textured model and not some reference color photo.../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Amazing work!

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 07:00 PM
That Gladiator cockpit is truly incredible. What character!

and yea for the B-25!!!, but we want cockpit progress shots or we'll riot!

--AKD

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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 07:04 PM
No kidding!!
whoever did that Gladiator 'pit has some awesome talent- 'tis a thing of beauty /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Bravo

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 07:04 PM
Agreed.

The Gladiator cockpit must be one of the best ever.

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 07:40 PM
can´t wait to fly the Gladiator /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

btw, how much were they used and where?

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 07:42 PM
D_River_real1 wrote:
- can´t wait to fly the Gladiator

- btw, how much were they used and where?
-


For example:
http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/fighters.html#Gladiaattori


-jippo

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 07:42 PM
The Gladiator looks amazing. I saw a real Gladiator fly a few years ago at the Shuttleworth collection and it was a very impressive aircraft. The power to weight ratio is much higher than I expected for a biplane and the thing stormed around the sky over the display field.

Very much looking forward to this one.

Regards,

RocketDog.

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 07:49 PM
I swear you can smell that Gladiator cockpit. Get close to the picture and sniff ... oil, metal, petrol .. you can, you know.



Message Edited on 11/03/0306:49PM by mikeyg007

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 07:50 PM
If I fly the Gladiator I will crash on take-off gazing at that amazing cockpit - darn good work!!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

& the Tirpiz doesn't look bad /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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adlabs6
11-03-2003, 07:50 PM
Thanks /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

That cockpit texture for the Gladiator is a masterwork, no doubt. I think it was Snorri who did that? I can't remember for sure, but to the artist, well done Sir!

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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 07:58 PM
The B-25 and Gladiater are very exciting to see. The Tirpitz is a really nice surprise, I hadnt heard anything before on this. Very nice work. The 3D models in IL2FB are outstanding.

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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 07:58 PM
o man that cockpit makes me drool from more than one place
awsome /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 08:01 PM
oh the wings on the lanc bent on takeoff for that mission
when they flew from england, overloaded by 2 tons...
hence wingbending /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 08:16 PM
Swedish Gladiator with German indicators? I see airspeed is in km/hr. Hot Dog! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif


If they are paying the modellers anything, and they better be...

Biplane moddelers should get Double Bonus!
(and twin engine monoplane modellers too!!!!)

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 08:16 PM
The Gladiator cockpit is truley incredible! Best i'we ever seen and in Swedish /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 08:28 PM
If anyone is in the mood for more Galdiator goodness, here's a little avi of the Shuttleworth Gladiator taxiing. (http://www.angels19.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/flightsimshow/101-0101_MVI.AVI) Hawker Hind in the background.

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 08:34 PM
March 11 ?!!

Huh?

Sry, just being a smart a**

TinMan

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 08:48 PM
WOW!!!! Near photographic detail, I am extremely impressed!!!

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 09:25 PM
Yes that cockpit must be the best made ever, both in this game and any other. Incredible detailed skin - and model. It´s just right.
I saw someone stated here that it could nearly be possible to smell it, I second that, I can feel the rubber, leather, oil smell in my nose already /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
Impressing work!

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 09:30 PM
Who did this? - he ought to be credited for it! It's really good. Anyone knows?

S!

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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 09:36 PM
HOLY SH!T !!!!!
this is the best model of a cockpit I have ever seen!
who is this genius?



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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 09:41 PM
Fantastic work, i thought the gladiator was gonna be AI only and i was most annoyed to find that out.

But this, this is brilliant its about time i had something to sort out those I153s

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 09:55 PM
"88 keys" jippo_01 is hinting that there is more than one (1) paid addon CD in Oleg's diabolical Plan.

Yes! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif FB Forever !

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 10:04 PM
I hope that "reading between the lines" is correct and there is more than one pay for CD in the works.

This gives people the chance to complete so many of those a/c in various stages of development and.....maybe some suprise maps. The Gulf of Finland was a geographical "work of art" and I would love to see another grand theater be developed in order to use these new aircraft.

Mtn.

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 10:10 PM
yeah its brillant! Lot of reasearch on that cockpit

J8A was flown by Swedish Volunteer Unit F19 during Finnish Winter War. More about this squadron, please visit our homepage http://www.f19vs.tk

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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 10:16 PM
About this particular Gladiator.

J8 is the Swedish designation for Gloster Gladiator, J8 representing the horsepower of MKI and this J8A (which is beeing implemented in the game) the motoreffect of the MkII.

Now I really guess that some people would get "annoyed" about German instruments in an Eglish Glad, but Sweden bought this airplane in the 30ies, and of course we couldn't use English instruments, we only knew how to read METRIC instruments, thus a mixture of Swedish, German AND English instruments. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

PS: Regarding the Gunsight, yes it should be German as well /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

more about J8A can be found here:
http://www.dalnet.se/~surfcity/gladiator_sweden.htm

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Message Edited on 11/03/0310:42PM by F19_Orheim

Zayets
11-03-2003, 10:40 PM
Now,you all understand that Friday is da PAAAAAAAAAAAATCH DAY!!!

Zayets out

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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 10:57 PM
This cockpit is a team effort.

It's all thanks to Orheim and his long hours of research, translation, visits to museums, phone calls to experts and letters to veteran pilots. I'm just doing the easy bit: models and textures.
Oh, and the instrument models were done by UberAlan and Onion. I just did the textures.

Behind every detail there are countless emails discussing every possible option, variant and change made by the pilots in the front-line. All great fun I have to admit.

Thanks all for the kind words. Really appreciated /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


PS. As Orheim hinted... Revi coming soon. The current British Reflector Gunsight MkII will only be used in the MkI and MkII. This gunsight is modelled thanks to the brilliant pictures kindly sent by Ed from Target for Tonight. Thanks again Ed!

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/haddock/sig/J8_01.jpg

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 11:04 PM
capt haddock its a killer texture the best I have seen,
is there any chance to see any pics of the external aircraft model?



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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 11:29 PM
Too Kind Haddock,

<u>I</u> did all the easy work, researching anyone can do, For this kind of amazing work of art it takes talent, something you've got in tons.

And yes - this project has been so much fun, I will certainly miss it. Now I have to find something else to spend those late nights on!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

By the way Haddock. I got a question in Netwings regarding the textures:

"are those textures 256x256 resolution???"

Cheers mate



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Message Edited on 11/03/0311:30PM by F19_Orheim

XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 11:33 PM
Cheers /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

They are all 256x256. No worries /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-03-2003, 11:34 PM
thought so...
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XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 12:09 AM
Incredible Gladiator 'pit! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif I guess we'll see a lot of Gladiators roaming the virtual skies when she's released and the Swedes and Finns take off.

Might have to give my beloved P-40 a short vacation to take her for a spin myself. Nothing quite like battling it out in a plane with Swedish instruments! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 12:15 AM
Ketalar wrote:
- Incredible Gladiator 'pit! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif I guess we'll see a lot of
- Gladiators roaming the virtual skies when she's
- released and the Swedes and Finns take off.
-
- Might have to give my beloved P-40 a short vacation
- to take her for a spin myself. Nothing quite like
- battling it out in a plane with Swedish instruments!
- /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
-

yeah you are welcome LOL!
Lots of and Ӟ and ...!!!

but still there are enough German and English instruments left in the cockpit, I guess we Swedes are a pragmatic people, don't care what language the instrumenst are in, as long as they are good LOL.


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XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 12:24 AM
Capt

I'll pass your thanks onto Ed as i'm one of te boys from Target for Tonight /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


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XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 12:34 AM
It seems like they put more work on the gladiator cockpit than any other cockpit. Whats up with that? Is the gladiator special or something...

XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 12:35 AM
One quick question about the Gladiator model. Will it feature skis as gear on the default Winter model? The Swedish ones (and Finnish probably) had skis instead of wheels for landing on snow covered runways. Probably not though, might be too complicated...

XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 12:49 AM
Ketalar wrote:
- One quick question about the Gladiator model. Will
- it feature skis as gear on the default Winter model?
- The Swedish ones (and Finnish probably) had skis
- instead of wheels for landing on snow covered
- runways. Probably not though, might be too
- complicated...
-
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Speedbar.
This model is done by enthusiasts , and things made by enthusiast are often made with love and appreciation for details. Many countless hours have been put down in finding the exact texture on instruments, panels etc, just to be true to the original (which by the way is located at Malmen Airforce Museum in Link¶ping, Sweden. The staff there have been very helpful in the research, and always been happy to help out, even though I have called them sometimes a bit too many times)

Haddock and his co-modelers has been absolutely stunning in their work with the details, also a sign of true interest and joy of the work. Their work speak for itself!!

Ketalar.
I really don't know about the skis. You are right, there should be skis (and they are modeled) if the Finnish Winter War ought to be portraid correctly, but if they wil be implemented in the game I don't know. I guess that is up to Oleg and the limits of the game,



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Message Edited on 11/04/0301:03AM by F19_Orheim

XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 12:52 AM
I may be a Lancaster whiner, maybe even the only one, but...

That B-25 is gorgeous! Can't wait.



"Official Lancaster Whiner"

XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 01:03 AM
That pit is nothing short of a work of art. I'm also glad to see an early B-25. Doolittle would be proud. Great work all!

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XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 01:35 AM
Mah-veh-lous. Christmas is early. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 02:19 AM
Hi Capitaine:

That cockpit of yours is trully a work of ark. Very well done comrade. And great thanks to those who participated in any aspects of it.

Now, I really want this plane in the add-on. We will have the main pre-war biplanes of the important countries...What delight to dogfight with them it shall be! Can't hardly wait. Bring it on!!!!

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XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 07:51 AM
yeah 'cos Sweden used Fiat CR.42 as well /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 08:18 AM
Ketalar::
- skis instead of wheels for landing on snow covered
- runways. Probably not though, might be too complicated...

Not well known, but our FB's BI~1 rocket plane has skis for winter maps. It can be done.

XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 08:19 AM
They are retractable skis too.

XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 09:58 AM
Yeah,they only show up on maps with snow.(Imagine that!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif )

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XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 10:40 AM
The cockpit of the Gladiator is the most amazing I have ever seen! It's thanks to people like F19_Orheim and Capt. Haddock this game continues to give countless hours of fun! Without volunteers like them and the other excellent 3rd party modellers this game would have faded earlier.

But what is the story with the Tirpitz? If I recall correctly it only saw operational service off Norway and in Norwegian fjords? Is something norwegian going on here?

Skarphol

XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 10:52 AM
No story with the Tirpitz. I just didn't think the Niobe was quite "uber" enough.

Even without 3rd party stuff IL-2 would be fun. 1C makes most of the addon stuff anyway.

XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 11:21 AM
Others said it better than me but.............
Awesome.

XyZspineZyX
11-04-2003, 11:25 AM
Very nice screenieshttp://forums.ubi.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


I am already impressed by some of the cockpits in FB, like the P-39, but seeing the Gladiator cockpits made me drool instantly all over my keyboard! This seems like the most gorgeous cockpit for FB that I ever saw. Absolutely brilliant! Bring on that Gladiatorhttp://forums.ubi.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


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