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RAAFVirt75th
01-13-2004, 12:24 AM
Any chance of a flyable Tiger moth being made?

Was a great trainer plane used by allies in WW2 - be good for sqna aroud the place to use for new recruit training.

RAAFVirt75th
01-13-2004, 12:24 AM
Any chance of a flyable Tiger moth being made?

Was a great trainer plane used by allies in WW2 - be good for sqna aroud the place to use for new recruit training.

necrobaron
01-13-2004, 12:48 PM
I agree. You should probably ask the modellers over at Netwings.org. There was a Lysander in the works,but Fennec dropped it. Urubu was doing a flyable Piper Cub L-4,but I don't know his progress on it. An AT-6 Texan was also in the works but has been dropped as well. It seems training and liasion aircraft(which are more important than many seem to realize)have a hard time making it into FB.....http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Slater_51st
01-13-2004, 07:49 PM
What about the Storch? It's already in the game, not a trainer, I don't think, but it was a liason a/c.

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Rajvosa
01-14-2004, 12:58 AM
Nah, I must dissagre it would be a good trainer for new recruits. It's perfromance was WAY below that of say Spitfire. They would learn nothing from flying it in FB. In real life, it was an excellent first plane to fly, though. What would be better is a Chipmunk or AT-6. I would love to fly the Moth, for simple pleasure http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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RAAF_Furball
01-16-2004, 02:40 AM
yes, please !

I flew in one recently ........ refer www.fur.cjb.net, (http://www.fur.cjb.net,) then links, then TigerMoth joyflight ......

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Philipscdrw
01-16-2004, 07:09 AM
You could always find a copy of 3ds MAX and some good plans and pictures and make it yourself.

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DuxCorvan
01-16-2004, 01:28 PM
Yes, yes!
Tiger Moth, Boeing Kadett, B├╝cker Jungmann & Jungmeister, AT-6 Texan, Miles Master & Magister, Ar 96, Go 145, Yakovlev UT-2, flyable Po-2...

I love trainers! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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XyZspineZyX
01-16-2004, 03:04 PM
Sure, it's *possible*. But why?

The reason trainers existed was because airplanes and lives are expensive, and you just could not risk putting somebody at the controls of a front-line aircraft during training.

Seeing that we have inexhaustible lives in front of our PCs, and "cost is no object", why would you bother to train in a Moth or Texan or whatever? You can learn the same lessons in a "real" Warbird because the "downside elements" that preclude this in real life are absent.

To me, this falls into the same category as "Warbird air-racing", a complete and utter waste of time.

RAAFVirt75th
01-16-2004, 05:36 PM
I see your point. But perhaps I should explain reason behind our training aircraft concept such as the Tiger Moth.

In our RAAF VirtualSquadron http://www.raafsquad.cjb.net/
we are interested in the historical and realism factor FB has to offer.

We are heavily into increasing these factors of immersion.

What we will be doing in the future for new recruits is to ensure they first go through our Elementary Flight Training School as part of an (EATS) to obtain the requiste flying hours before flying wings are given. For recruits wishing to become a fighter or bomber pilot at least 20 hrs in the Tiger Moth. (This is not hard to clock up most people would do this in a couple of weeks and also gives us time to assess their attitude and other entry criteria).

For twin engine bombers recruits will require another 10 hrs in an Avro Anson (or similar).Then progress to Hudsons, C47, Beuaforts, Blenheims, B25's B17s etc.

For flying boat pilots the Supermarine Seagull
20 hrs. Then progress to PBY.

Of course whether we can get this off the ground depends on whether these aircraft are created and scenery maps for Australia and South West Pacific region.

We beleive if these can be introduced to FB or addons that the dimensions of FB will be consideraby increased. Other areas we are keen on seeing developed are search and rescue type missions for the PBY e.g. downed pilots rescued e.g. gaining game play points for doing such.

Regards
_RAAF_Schuftie

D_River_real1
01-16-2004, 06:09 PM
Storch, that would be nice to fly.
with cockpit view!

JG5_Scorpius
01-17-2004, 04:22 PM
I would prefer an advanced trainer where you can actually switch control from student to instructor and back. Such a feature, in combination with voice communications, would enable you to teach someone to fly (and to fight) online.

Regards, Scorpius

RAAFVirt75th
01-17-2004, 05:38 PM
Good idea mate. This brilliant?

A.K.Davis
01-17-2004, 05:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RAAFVirt75th:
I see your point. But perhaps I should explain reason behind our training aircraft concept such as the Tiger Moth.

In our RAAF VirtualSquadron http://www.raafsquad.cjb.net/
we are interested in the historical and realism factor FB has to offer.

We are heavily into increasing these factors of immersion.

What we will be doing in the future for new recruits is to ensure they first go through our Elementary Flight Training School as part of an (EATS) to obtain the requiste flying hours before flying wings are given. For recruits wishing to become a fighter or bomber pilot at least 20 hrs in the Tiger Moth. (This is not hard to clock up most people would do this in a couple of weeks and also gives us time to assess their attitude and other entry criteria).

For twin engine bombers recruits will require another 10 hrs in an Avro Anson (or similar).Then progress to Hudsons, C47, Beuaforts, Blenheims, B25's B17s etc.

For flying boat pilots the Supermarine Seagull
20 hrs. Then progress to PBY.

Of course whether we can get this off the ground depends on whether these aircraft are created and scenery maps for Australia and South West Pacific region.

We beleive if these can be introduced to FB or addons that the dimensions of FB will be consideraby increased. Other areas we are keen on seeing developed are search and rescue type missions for the PBY e.g. downed pilots rescued e.g. gaining game play points for doing such.

Regards
_RAAF_Schuftie<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So you recruit people into your squad that have never flown in FB before? That is very interesting.

--AKD

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RAAFVirt75th
01-17-2004, 07:26 PM
That is correct. As per our joining rules state.

At RAAF (and as Aussie's) we believe in giving everyone a "fair go".

So no experience as an FB pilot does not preclude acceptance into the squadron e.g. as per our website http://www.raafsquad.cjb.net/
under "Join" the rules are stated. Although subject to review and changing by the RAAF Exec from time to time.

For example:

"Applicants will be tested for attitude (first) and skill (second) before being accepted as a recruit (this is our "Recruit Test"). We conduct training courses, so lack of skill is not a problem - just ask our Commanding Officer. :-)

After acceptance, new Recruits can use _RAAF_ in their name and they will be on probation in the Recruit Wing for one month. "

So if an inexperienced FB pilot wishes to join RAAF we will help them acheive their goal at getting their wings and assist in their combat training and development.

Hope you find this just a interesting.

Regards
_RAAF_Schuftie

p1ngu666
01-17-2004, 08:36 PM
dont forget the bomb racks that some had fitted http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

RAAF_Furball
01-17-2004, 09:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RAAFVirt75th:
That is correct. As per our joining rules state.

At RAAF (and as Aussie's) we believe in giving everyone a "fair go".

So no experience as an FB pilot does not preclude acceptance into the squadron e.g. as per our website http://www.raafsquad.cjb.net/
under "Join" the rules are stated. Although subject to review and changing by the RAAF Exec from time to time.

For example:

"Applicants will be tested for attitude (first) and skill (second) before being accepted as a recruit (this is our "Recruit Test"). We conduct training courses, so lack of skill is not a problem - just ask our Commanding Officer. :-)

After acceptance, new Recruits can use _RAAF_ in their name and they will be on probation in the Recruit Wing for one month. "

So if an inexperienced FB pilot wishes to join RAAF we will help them acheive their goal at getting their wings and assist in their combat training and development.

Hope you find this just a interesting.

Regards
_RAAF_Schuftie<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


This is quite true ........

We're in it for the fun with great people. Many of our members have been members for years - I've been CO for 3 years.

If we only had great flyers, I'd be out! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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JG77_Tintin
01-19-2004, 03:06 AM
The North American trainers would be a good choice. There must have been plenty of circumstances when utility aircraft were in combat, although not of their own volition. An exception could be when the Australians used their armed version, the "Wirraway" for interception, in combat against the zeros in early 42. There were no proper fighters to be had. Hence 24 Squadron RAAF, infamous last message of the gladiators back to Oz. It was in Latin, but translated as "We who are about to die, salute you"

RAAFVirt75th
01-19-2004, 03:41 AM
Onya mate I ave read that story as well mate.

Typical aussies. OF course we did have the 3rd largest airforce in ww2. Not bad for a little populated country at the time.