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08-11-2004, 07:47 AM
Which of these three makes the best BnZer and why?

08-11-2004, 07:47 AM
Which of these three makes the best BnZer and why?

08-11-2004, 08:00 AM
I'd say the A9 because of the awesome firepower it carries, it really only needs one pass to utterly destroy another plane or cripple it so badly on the next pass its dead meat.

The P51D has the wings falling off problem if you pull up to sharply while going to fast but overall an easier plane to fly and shoot in because of the better view when it comes to BnZ.

The P47D27 beats 'em both though (IMOhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

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08-11-2004, 08:05 AM
A9 because it has the most firepower and can be more effective at high deflection.

Obviously, this only works if you start at a point of higher "E" than your opponent and works best if you do it with a wingman to help keep the bandit at a state of lower "E".

While the P-51 can dive with a FW, its armament of .50's isn't the best loadout for B&Z.

my .02c anyway

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08-11-2004, 08:30 AM
yeahh but both D9 and p51 climb much better than A9. So this balances out. Also P51 have better vision.. and advantage spoting targets.

Both 190 can do well as long as they have friends to clean anything that follow dives them (p51D can turn well enought to get rid of followers by them selves)

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08-11-2004, 09:33 AM
Mostly 90% for online play, I use bf-109s

At full-switch DF-Server, I take p-51 and other friends take 190A-9 we playing for almost 20 min. 1vs1 I can easy take p-51 to get position over then him 700-1,500 meter so I can control a domain and play offensive role and he has to play defensive . All I have to do is avoid not do a stupid play H2H with him, and seem he know that too. He is very good not easy to get in his tail when I get close he will use batter roll rate to get away if I was make only single mistake (as you may know DM in P-51 at first release from AEP is not same as patch 2.01 or 2.04) I can lose a wing just one brush from 4x20mm , but I can manage to attack him 4-5 time for BnZ and I can take .50 shoot at his cockpit and that is the end of our fun.

Last night at greater-green DF server I was surprise in 190D , we can classify 2 type of wwii air combat high - maneuver combat and high - speed combat and 190D is very good for high - speed combat it's batter then 109K4 If you know the rule you can let Spitfire stay behind and come back to shot him one side only . Climb rate batter then 190A9 and drive speed is 800 km/h and if you know the rule in hi-attitude combat (over 6000 meter) 190D is very interesting now to dance with p-51 .

Just one thing , you have to spent a lot of time to improve you shooting skill for 2x20mm in 190D because this time ( patch 2.04 ) DM in P-51 not easy to take him down.

Anywhere bf-109s still my main challenging style:


08-11-2004, 09:39 AM

190A9 and P47 both make good BnZ'rs but IMO the A9 has the edge if you have 2x30mm loadout. A9 is also fast enough to get you out of trouble....depending on alt.

P51 is more suited to 6 hanging whereas I find the 190D9 20mms to be too lightweight (relatively speaking) for a crippling shot/destruction on the first pass.

109 with 30mm is also good but elevators can be a bit heavy on the dive recovery.


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08-11-2004, 05:27 PM
LOL NorrisMcWhirter - nice sig.

Fair point about the A9 mit ze Uber-Kannonen - 1 pass and you got em. Personally for fighters I prefer the 4x20mm as I can put out a nice stream of round without the whole airframe shaking apart http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

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