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Maple_Tiger
02-09-2004, 01:23 PM
Well, visualy it sucks. The cotpits are a joke and the veiws are horrible. I even had the game setting on as high as they could go lol. I couldn't even use my mouse to look around lol.

even the external veiws sucked.

Im so glad i bought FB in the first place lol.

Maple_Tiger
02-09-2004, 01:23 PM
Well, visualy it sucks. The cotpits are a joke and the veiws are horrible. I even had the game setting on as high as they could go lol. I couldn't even use my mouse to look around lol.

even the external veiws sucked.

Im so glad i bought FB in the first place lol.

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02-09-2004, 01:28 PM
Take it back.... Now.

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arcadeace
02-09-2004, 01:29 PM
If you're looking for visual appeal and a change from FB try FS 2004, if you don't have it already. I purchased it recently and I'm glad I spent the money. A powerful PC is a must though.

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tsisqua
02-09-2004, 01:30 PM
I leave it on my hard drive to remind me of just how gullible I can be at times. If you still have time, take it back and make them return your money.

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SeaFireLIV
02-09-2004, 01:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tsisqua:
I leave it on my hard drive to remind me of just how gullible I can be at times. If you still have time, take it back and make them return your money.

Tsisqua

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Sorry, Tsisqua, I can`t bear to leave it on my hard drive!

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TooCooL34
02-09-2004, 01:38 PM
You, masochist http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

nearmiss
02-09-2004, 01:38 PM
WOW! Another one bites the dust.

CFS3 is the most-hyped dog combat flight simulator of all.

CFS2 is far and away a better product, and it's lousy.

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BpGemini
02-09-2004, 01:41 PM
If you have money to waste you could give it to me.

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crazyivan1970
02-09-2004, 01:42 PM
Is there an american expression that sounds like: Curiosity killed the cat? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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BpGemini
02-09-2004, 01:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
Is there an american expression that sounds like: Curiosity killed the cat? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



Probably sounds something similar to the back of an oriental kitchen.

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hehe..... just kidding.... little stereotyping culture joke there ladies and gentlemen, nothing to be taken seriously you see.

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tsisqua
02-09-2004, 01:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
Is there an american expression that sounds like: Curiosity killed the cat? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

V!
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Yes, Ivan. And I remember that as a little boy, my grandmother said that to me, and thought that this "Curiosity" person, whoever he was, must have been a very cruel man.

True Story.

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Platypus_1.JaVA
02-09-2004, 01:56 PM
I tested it for a week, a friend of my had a copy and I could lend it. I returned it and never thought of asking it again http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif He also quit on it after a week or two.

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02-09-2004, 02:04 PM
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AceofSpades7262
02-09-2004, 02:12 PM
The only problem I have with the game is the flight model. Thats why I bomb in cfs3 and dogfight in il2. Take a look at the screenshots in this thread and tell me this game looks bad.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6952

And better cockpits can always be downloaded

crazyivan1970
02-09-2004, 02:18 PM
Sorry Ace, doesn`t even come close to FB. Oh i did owned CFS3, for about 2 hours http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

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VF-17_WOODMAN
02-09-2004, 02:19 PM
I looked CFS3 is still bad even with a 45ghz pc it still takes 3 weeks to update the screens i will stick with FB thanks

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Xnomad
02-09-2004, 02:19 PM
I was wondering are there people who play CFS 3 but not IL2? I can understand playing both but I can't understand someone choosing CFS 3 over IL2/FB.

I made the mistake too when CFS 3 came out. I had the graphics set to max and thought "this is it???" I took it back to HMV and they asked me what was wrong with it and I said "It's a terrible game I refuse to pay for it, I would like my money back!" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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tsisqua
02-09-2004, 02:20 PM
Platypus. I sent you a PT message. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Baltar
02-09-2004, 02:25 PM
Another one to avoid is Jane's Attack Squadron...ugh. I bought that one with fond memories of Janes WWII Fighters. Probably played no more than five minutes before uninstalling.

CO_Eagle_31stFG
02-09-2004, 02:29 PM
Should have been reading the forums before buying that, we have posted many times about how bad that sim was from first hand experiance.
Now that you opened it you'll probably have the same bad luck trying to return it, many tried but arround here stores simply won't accept a software return unless you exchange it for another copy of the same item.
Besides I could have sold you a real nice "like new" condition cfs3 cheaper than you bought it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I installed mine and put it on the shelf that same day its been sitting there since day 1 of it hiitting the store shelves, now it quietly sits and collects dust because I hardly think its worth spending the effort to dust it off LOL

tenmmike
02-09-2004, 02:29 PM
cfs3 lasted 2 days i think on my hd...those shots that are posted above i gotta say i like the terrain ...but that is the bottem of my important things, still it looks good (the ground)

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Old_Canuck
02-09-2004, 02:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>....Take a look at the screenshots in this thread and tell me this game looks bad.

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Got to agree .. excellent Photoshop work there lad. Last screenie appears to have been through the "Unsharp Mask" filter one too many times though.

I too enjoyed the still shots from CFS3 the short time it was on my drive ... a lot of the still shots were there during real time action ...

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Z1stDan
02-09-2004, 02:53 PM
I play FB most of the time but do play CFS3 some. CFS3 multiplayer sucks, stock cockpits suck, stock flight and damage models suck as do other aspects of the stock game. Although, I always thought the clouds were good. However, having said the above, I believe that third party designers are gradually improving the game to the point that I have started playing it again. 1% flight models are good, terrain and scenery as shown above are getting real good especially from altitude, third party cockpits in a few cases are getting good. There is a lot of improvement yet to go which I believe will be achieved by third parties eventually. The one thing I don't like about FB is the shrinking globe effect as you get higher in altitude. I believe CFS3 has FB beat in regards to that. I have plenty of room on my HD for CFS3 and FB as well as other things and every once in a while I will venture over to CFS3 for a change of pace.

Oh yea, CFS3 plays very well with everything on 5 except terrain and clouds which are at 4. My system is P4, 1.6 GHZ, 40 GB HD, 1 GB RAM, FX 5700 ultra 128 MB. XP home OS is tweaked as per blackviper.com for gaming.

My true love is still FB, however.

Sturmtrooper
02-09-2004, 02:58 PM
The one that got me into all this flight sim stuff in the first place was CFS2 . At the time I thought it was pretty good . Then I got my hands on Jane's WW2 Fighters (not Attack Squadron) . It was good also . "Played" them both for quite a while until I heard of Il-2 Sturmovik (?) . Read about it in a Flight Journal magazine . Went out and picked it up as soon as it came out . "What the hell", I thought , "I'll give it a try".
I haven't looked back since .
I tried CFS2 about a month after Il-2 .
Yuck !!!
Since FB and CFS3 came out about the same time , I already knew what I was gonna spend my money on .
A buddy of mine got CFS3 and I tried it .
Once.
No comparison whatsoever !!
Oleg and Co. have the market cornered when it comes to WW2 flight sims .
LONG LIVE IL-2 !!!!!
LONG LIVE FORGOTTEN BATTLES !!!!!
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skunkertx7
02-09-2004, 02:59 PM
I like the scenery and weather/clouds better in CFS3.......is that okay if I say that?

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02-09-2004, 03:07 PM
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tsisqua
02-09-2004, 03:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by skunkertx7:
I like the scenery and weather/clouds better in CFS3.......is that okay if I say that?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, I will go against my principles and say that are many things about CFS3 that are way cool . . . but the things that detract from it make it pretty much unplayable for me. Their idea of a dynamic campaign is great . . . the way that it actually (doesn't) work is not. I love the pilot animations. I hate, I mean really HATE the ai. Biggest of all, I hate that in a quick mission over England, there are enemy flak positions, as well as German bases within minutes of any place that you start.

CFS3 was a great idea. Darn shame that they didn't finish it.

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Chuck_Older
02-09-2004, 03:13 PM
Sure.

Some things in CFS3 are really cool. Like ground battles raging, or ships off-shore shelling targets inland. I like the large amounts of targets of opportunity, and I think the squadron commands in-flight are better than FB or Il*2 as well.

But little things stink like: the manual for one. Some commands are just WRONG and do not exist in the as-shipped version of CFS3, like a few external view commands. then in the manual itself, it neglects to give you commands for a few things that ARE in the sim.

Plus enemy AI don't drop tanks under any circumstances that I can tell, no matter what country is your enemy.

But I did feel like I had accomplished something when I managed to down my 5th Bf109 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Out of cockpit scenery is good IMO.
And strafing an enemy airfield is pretty good in CFS3.

But FB does so many basic things better than CFS3 that I find CFS3 a huge disappointment overall.

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Old_Canuck
02-09-2004, 03:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>.... Darn shame that they didn't finish it.

Tsisqua

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musickna
02-09-2004, 03:17 PM
CFS3 could have - should have - been better than it was. I, too, still keep it on my hard drive and play it from time to time but, truthfully, more as a curiosity than anything else. I know there have been improvements with flight models and graphics and if I really wanted, I could make the game substantially better than the out-of-the-box experience by plonking down some cash for FirePower etc. But the sour taste that the initial impression gave me has never really left me, so I don't bother. Sad really.

Z1stDan
02-09-2004, 03:28 PM
There are plenty of good free third party CFS3 improvements without having to purchase firepower which I believe is overrated anyway. I would rather save my money for FB Aces Expansion http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. By the way, the AI not dropping their tanks was solved with the first patch. So many other things have also been improved by third parties.

BpGemini
02-09-2004, 03:31 PM
Again, all those whom wish to waste their money on future CFS products please support a real cause and send the nearly wasted money to my Pay Pal account.

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02-09-2004, 04:27 PM
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SKULLS_LZ
02-09-2004, 06:22 PM
It truly puzzles me that so many people bash CFS3 based on their first impression. I've read this, or variations of it, a hundred times in this forum: "I tried it for an hour and uninstalled it". HUH? You had time to run setup, download patches and updates, learn the commands and play it in ONE or TWO hours?? I thought the main feature of CFS3 was its moddability (did I just invent a new word? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

I haven't bought CFS3 (yet), but if I did, I would at least download some free FMs and updates first before tossing it, especially if all I cared about was single-player missions. Or am I only seeing what online players are saying, and there's a "silent majority" out there?

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crazyivan1970
02-09-2004, 06:27 PM
It`s not that L-Z, When i saw IL-2(DEMO) back in the day... it was everything that i ever wished for in flight sim... call it what you want... something clicked, got blown away, got hooked, love from the first sight...whatever lol.

CFS3 was none of the above for me.. it was just OK.

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SKULLS_LZ
02-09-2004, 06:46 PM
I relate to that perfectly Ivan. Found the IL-2 demo and suddenly I'm all CF?? MS?? Nope, never heard of it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But that FirePower thing keeps taunting me, calling my name...I'm...trying...to...resist...

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SeaFireLIV
02-09-2004, 06:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SKULLS_LZ:

I haven't bought CFS3 (yet)....
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Skulls, please, please, please BUY CFS3. DO IT! DO IT NOW! Add all the mods, add all the patches!

Then come back here and say it`s great!



Some people just can`t be warned...
(BTW have they fixed the problem of empty aircraft shooting at you if you over shoot them? It wasn`t fixed in the patch...)
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Maple_Tiger
02-09-2004, 07:15 PM
LZ dude, i spent all bloody day with CF3.

I downloaded the latest patch, i also downloaded a redone P-51D and installed it.

I engoy flying in my cockpit and CF3's cockpits for the P-51 and P-47 almost made me sick.

Just trying to look around was horrible. You couldn't even use the mouse to look around.

Only thing i liked was the landscape and clouds.

I was just curious and now i know. The rest of the guys here were telling the truth.

CF3 sucks. No comparison what so ever.

SkyChimp
02-09-2004, 07:49 PM
After giving a lot of thought, I can't come up with one signle thing that CFS3 did well.

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VonLuger
02-09-2004, 08:12 PM
Yikes I bought it a couple of months after it came out from a lady who sells at amazon.com for $17.00 to help kids with cancer...factory sealed ect-to me it was great eye candy and fun after patch which was already available, it never crashed or ran slow..I still play it on occasion..I like FB and will buy the add on when released...Any new WWII flight Sims being released one should keep a eye on besides BOB...

lbhskier37
02-09-2004, 08:52 PM
I tried it for a couple weeks. I tried different add-ons and mods. I always fly cockpit on, so I couldnt make it feel right to me. I NEED mouse view, I am spoiled after IL2 and can't go without it now. Another thing I noticed after playing a couple days was the lack of headshake, its only a little thing, but was a total immersion killer to me.

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RicknZ
02-09-2004, 09:59 PM
The thing that gets me is all the proponents of CFS3 who praise the product only due to the 3rd party crowd.

To me that makes them plebs, CFS3 should have been great out of the box, all that effort by unpaid loyalists is pathetic im my view allowing microtoss to get away with a shockingly bad product.

Loyalty only when due.

Bearcat99
02-10-2004, 05:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SKULLS_LZ:
It truly puzzles me that so many people bash CFS3 based on their first impression. I've read this, or variations of it, a hundred times in this forum: "I tried it for an hour and uninstalled it". HUH? You had time to run setup, download patches and updates, learn the commands and play it in ONE or TWO hours?? I thought the main feature of CFS3 was its moddability (did I just invent a new word? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

I haven't bought CFS3 (yet), but if I did, I would at least download some free FMs and updates first before tossing it, especially if all I cared about was single-player missions. Or am I only seeing what online players are saying, and there's a "silent majority" out there?
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Thats the thing Skulls... I could NEVER get it to work!!! I tried it 4 seperate times on 2 systems...... Not only did it not work..but I had to totally un-install it in order to even fly in FB because for some reaso it totally buggered my MSFFB2 stick settings to the point where as soon as I touched the stick it would flop over to the right and forward and stay there....... even if I wasnt in a sim. I got the patches, the mods all the wonderful 3rd party stuff..... hell I upgraded for CFS3..thats how I was able to finally run IL2 and tats when I got it. The sim just plain bites,....at least on my rig... I COULDNT get 15 minutes of decent playing time.

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SpinSpinSugar
02-10-2004, 06:02 AM
Never had any problems running CFS3 on my rig, and I might even have enjoyed it if I'd never seen IL2 or IL2:Forgotten Battles.

However, given that it came, what, two years after the original IL2 demo, CFS3 is a shockingly bad excuse for a WWII sim. No "feel" at all. I only really bought it for the Mosquito, even then I just had to sell it again on Ebay within ten days. I DID give it a lot of time during that week and a half as I WANTED to like it!

I've got to admire the community who spend so much time supporting these products, and to an extent you can say the community have a lot to do with IL2 addons, too, but you should be able to enjoy these things out of the box. Which was certainly the case with IL2.

I'm not a gratuitous MS basher, I love the depth in FS2004, which is fantastic product. I'll be first in the queue for the next one, too. Leave combat sims alone though, eh?

I still remember clearly the first time I played the IL2 demo. Just awesome.

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woofiedog
02-10-2004, 06:16 AM
Did Yah notice the long drawn out faces of the pilots in the begining title of the game?
I believe it's from them thinking " OH NO, I CAN"T TAKE ANOTHER MISSION OF THIS GAME!" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

tsisqua
02-10-2004, 06:28 AM
Bearcat,

I finally have it "working" now that I have an AMD64 3200+, a gig of ram, and my Ti4200. (Some settings still must be turned down) Now that I am past the issue of the graphics, the gameplay is horrible. I have tweaked on it for over a year now, and finally can see its real shortcomings. You start a campaign, and are told that the first half hour into the campaign, you may switch your home base wothout any penalties. Well, it is a lie; you cannot. The friendly ai are worse enemies to you than they are in FB. In spite of what I have heard someone here say, the stick forces (if you use ffb) will have you cussing your head off. The trim control is as much of a cheat as it was in cfs . . . not just a cheat, but a necessity! You can trim the nose of the plane to do bat turns from hell! And If you don't use trim when you turn, you WON'T TURN AT ALL! If you let go of the stick for a second, just a second mind you, any plane that you fly while using ffb will be porpussing, and shaking the crap out of your stick. You will be shot down by "enemy" flack fired from what should be friendly bases (qmb). you will either fly for hours, or hit the "x" key, and if you DO warp to the target, you may find yourself at 30,000 ft. with the mixture so wrong that your engine stops immediately, and then God help you. You will never get it restarted before you are shot down.

I think that what I am really trying to say is that I have never given any other game so much attention, only to be so disapointed. To summarize: It sucks.

Tsisqua

Old_Canuck
02-10-2004, 09:23 AM
This is a very interesting study in "turning around negative consumer responses." I hope Mr. Gates is watching. No matter how many times a Microsoft (CFS3) supporter tries to inject a positive note in this forum for their product, if fails to wear down the resistance of deeply disappointed customers. I really thought people would get tired of resisting the hype but the posts are continuing to mount.

BTW, LZ, am I missing something? What can you do with Firepower if haven't purchased CFS3? Is Firepower standalone? Maybe someone tossed you their (hardly used) copy? Just wondering.

OC

"You don't stop playing because you grow old, you grow old because you stop playing."

NorrisMcWhirter
02-10-2004, 09:49 AM
Hi,

Yes, those shots are nice but they are static screenshots. And, let's face it, it's not hard to obtain a static screenshot in CFS3 because of the way it chugs along!

I recently tried out CFS3 after obtaining a new graphics card but deinstalled it after about 60 mins. It was smoother than before...but the FMs were a joke.

No, ta. I've been spoiled by Il-2 and FB. As someone who knocks out some code now and again, I think I can appreciate the difference in quality of code (black box assumption) between CFS3 and FB. One has the hallmarks of being crafted by a team that knows what they are doing but, more importantly, CARES about what they are doing whereas the other...well....does not.

Cheers,
Norris



<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AceofSpades7262:
The only problem I have with the game is the flight model. Thats why I bomb in cfs3 and dogfight in il2. Take a look at the screenshots in this thread and tell me this game looks bad.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6952

And better cockpits can always be downloaded<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


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SKULLS_LZ
02-10-2004, 11:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Old_Canuck:
This is a very interesting study in "turning around negative consumer responses." I hope Mr. Gates is watching. No matter how many times a Microsoft (CFS3) supporter tries to inject a positive note in this forum for their product, if fails to wear down the resistance of deeply disappointed customers. I really thought people would get tired of resisting the hype but the posts are continuing to mount.

BTW, LZ, am I missing something? What can you do with Firepower if haven't purchased CFS3? Is Firepower standalone? Maybe someone tossed you their (hardly used) copy? Just wondering.

OC

"You don't stop playing because you grow old, you grow old because you stop playing."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

OC,

Indeed I have not bought CSF3 nor FirePower. I had been considering buying both. After reading the experiences of Maple_Tiger, tsisqua, SpinSpinSugar, Bearcat99, lbhskier37 and Z1stDan, it looks like I may never buy another M$ CSF product (the last M$ software I bought was CSF back in 98).

Thanks gentleman for sharing all your experiences (and my condolences for all your suffering).

S!

DONB3397
02-10-2004, 12:37 PM
For Sale: One MS program - CFS3. Barely used. Original box and documentation. All sales final (no returns). Happy FB pilot.

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Maple_Tiger
02-10-2004, 01:33 PM
I just downloaded a P-51D miss Canada from CF3 commuitity web sight.

Its looks a bit better then the stock version but my god the cockpit still royly sucks.

The external views are horribal. I have so far flown the P-47 and P-51. P-51 manuvers better of course but man, they bouth seem to have the same personality.

Alteast in FB each plane has its own personality.

Maple_Tiger
02-10-2004, 02:14 PM
Lol,

I just ran a mission, its a Spit train busting mission.

Cockpit for the spit was so horrible that i could not get to the tagret.


I think i have given this crap game my best. Now its being uninstalled for good.

And yes ill give it away just so i dont have to be reminded of how stupid i am in the first place for buying it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I think Microsoft and team should be a shamed of them selfs.

im not impressed as you can see.

Old_Canuck
02-10-2004, 02:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>....Thanks gentleman for sharing all your experiences (and my condolences for all your suffering).

S!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sir ... thank you for your mature reply. I still enjoy FS2002 once in awhile and might even buy FS2004 someday when I get over pouting about CFS3. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

OC

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