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huggy87
03-31-2004, 12:07 PM
That had to be one of my favorite simulations. I think it came out around 92-93'. It had a great plane list including oddballs like the Ki-27, Ki-45, and Ki-100 and the Japanese Jets. I hope Pacific Fighters has at least as many planes!

huggy87
03-31-2004, 12:07 PM
That had to be one of my favorite simulations. I think it came out around 92-93'. It had a great plane list including oddballs like the Ki-27, Ki-45, and Ki-100 and the Japanese Jets. I hope Pacific Fighters has at least as many planes!

Maj_Death
03-31-2004, 12:08 PM
Oh yeah, that Ki-100 was a VERY hot little fighter. I think I played that 2 hours a day or more for about 3 years, then switched to Pacific Air War by Microprose.

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PzKpfw
03-31-2004, 12:12 PM
I still have AOTP & the add on disk, in their boxes etc http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif......

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buz13
03-31-2004, 12:23 PM
AOP was an excellent game (sim) as was AOE...
Design of the sims was excellent...immersive.
Along with SWOTL these were as good as any I have played for design....also include PAW in that list. If this new Pacific sim has a campaign design as good as PAW it will be fantastic.

Lucky_Skunk
03-31-2004, 12:37 PM
Couldn't forget it if I tried. That and SWOTL.

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Lancelot_ecv56
03-31-2004, 12:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PzKpfw:
I still have AOTP & the add on disk, in their boxes etc http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif......

Regards, John Waters<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Me too!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Sharpe26
03-31-2004, 01:47 PM
boy do I, I played PAW BEFORE I got AOTP man did I have dejavu http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

CybrSlydr
03-31-2004, 01:57 PM
Oh do I ever! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

AOTP and AOE were my first flight sims. Played 'em on a 486DX Auva computer. LOL

I remember going to Sun Electronics and browsing through the games, looking for it. Back then I always had to check the box because our puter didn't have a CDROM drive, only a 3 1/2 and 5 1/4. I'd pick it up and shake it, seeing how noisy it was. If it was really noisy, I knew it had disks - if it rattled, it was a CD. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I really miss that game...

Hans-Schultz
03-31-2004, 02:02 PM
i still have my AOTP also. i had the 46' expansion also with the japanese 262 looking thing. awesome game

Tate_Bruce
03-31-2004, 02:02 PM
I'll never forget AOTP, or PAW for that matter.

I spent many a night playing them when I was in high school.

7cb6155d8a6e5cf6303959ec5a607175
03-31-2004, 02:03 PM
I spent untold hours in the skies in both AoE and AotP. I agree with ya'll 100% they are classic ww2 sims.

Man I miss those games.

jensenpark
03-31-2004, 02:08 PM
That was a great game.

Microprose I think?

First big step forward from SWOTL I think.

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Hans-Schultz
03-31-2004, 02:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jensenpark:
That was a great game.

Microprose I think?

First big step forward from SWOTL I think.

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Dynamix made AOTP and was published my sierra, to my knowlege Dynamix does not exist anymore.

XyZspineZyX
03-31-2004, 02:19 PM
I remember and "1946"?

What a period for those how did fly simulations in this days. IL2 did bring them back with beter graphics, thanks for Oleg and is team http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

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VW-IceFire
03-31-2004, 03:03 PM
Until a few summers ago I still played Aces of the Pacific on an old "retro" gaming rig that I still had (a 386 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif).

Now that was a fantastic game...I'm hoping that Pacific Fighters will do what Aces did, and what IL2 did, by presenting a exciting dynamic campaign and enough flyable aircraft to make things interesting. I'm kind of hoping a significant portion of the lineups for the USN and the Japanese air force services (army and navy) plus the obvious presence that we already have from the USAAF will be flyable. Hellcat, Corsair, Wildcat, Dauntless, Avenger, Helldiver are all musts for me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I also kind of hope we see the A6M3 with the clipped wings as a bit of interest http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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EmbarkChief
03-31-2004, 03:07 PM
I still have my floppies to include the 1946 expansion + manual. Awsome series. Remember the the LSO?

PzKpfw
03-31-2004, 03:11 PM
I just rumaged thru my stuff I still have BH 1942, BOB, SWOTL (all add on disks), PAW, AOE, AOTP, 1946, PS, etc, all in their boxes with manuals etc. All on floppies http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

LOL I should try to load them up http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

Regards, John Waters

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olaleier
03-31-2004, 03:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EmbarkChief:
I still have my floppies to include the 1946 expansion + manual. Awsome series. Remember the the LSO?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I sure do. Never paid much attention to that dude. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Oh how far we have come.

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Chuck_Older
03-31-2004, 03:28 PM
I remember it very well.

The manuals for AOTP amd AOE were fantastic.


The question really should be, though,

"Does anyone remember the 'X-Fighters' by Dynamix?"

It was my first experience with vaporware http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

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PzKpfw
03-31-2004, 03:51 PM
LOL I just found old copies of posts I & others made of the ancient (but very active) *P SWOTL group. Hex editing & how we made are own modifications Ie, I made a Ta-152C and a few missions etc, that ppl DL'd for SWOTL http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif....

By god that brings back memories of old time Sim gurus Ie, Keith Heitmann, Richard Muth, Tom Philo etc.


Regards, John Waters

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IvanPutski1
03-31-2004, 04:26 PM
Still have it.

Thog-
03-31-2004, 05:09 PM
I was one of the in house Dynamix testers on AOE. I don't remember if my name was in the manual (printed a good 6 months before it shipped), but it was in the list of pilots and the readme, and I think a couple of the mission tapes I did of low-level base attacks shipped with it.

That project was one of the most pleasant and fun games projects I ever did. Great team, semi-realistic dates, and though there were allot of late nights at the end it never felt like the Bataan Death March so many did.

And the real shock was that I actually enjoyed playing the damned thing after it shipped!

Ah, good memories...

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El Turo
03-31-2004, 05:22 PM
Between Battle of Britain (the original) and SWOTL.. I lost a rediculous amount of sleep!

Good times.

I really wish that the next generation of flight sims would include dynamic campaigns along those lines.. that was inredibly fun to manage the war! I think that Mig Alley was the last sim to really have a legitimate dynamic campaign..

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GMichaelP
03-31-2004, 05:28 PM
AOP was great. Remember how the landing gear would drop on damaged planes?

Michael

red99
03-31-2004, 07:04 PM
I still have AOP and although my Joystick doesn't like it, I still do.

Did someone mention BOB? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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GSNei
03-31-2004, 08:13 PM
That and Chuck Yeagers Air Combat were among the first computer games I ever owned. I loaded Aces in my 486DX250 and it wouldn't run. Not enough memory? "Boot disk"? What's that?

aminx
03-31-2004, 11:02 PM
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the biggest mistake in my life was not to keep an old rigg the way you did,at that time i had a 586 but i thought of upgrading and improving i did'nt calculate that suddenly nobody for 10 years would improve on these 3 classics from 1993 to 1994.i have been suffering ever since.cfs2 was a big let down 5 years ago and i brought it out again last year because of ther add ons or else it would have gone to the bin long time ago.the future looks very promising,and i'm sure independants will create the right campaigns for us if we have all the right material to put them together with,ie i'm not attacking the jap carriers at midway with B25's right???
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Mitlov47
04-01-2004, 01:44 AM
Remember AOTP? Shoot, it was my first WWII flight sim, and the second-best flight sim I've ever played (IL-2 series comes in first)! I loved that game! I think I lost a year of middle school to it, at least. Dang it was fun. I'm sure it looks more than antequated by now (I no longer have the discs to run it), but the gameplay was top-notch.

Does anybody have some screenshots they can post for old times' sake?

And as others have said, the AOTP manual was the best game manual ever made.

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michapma
04-01-2004, 03:46 AM
The oldest flight sim I've ever seen is Jane's WWII Fighters or CFS, whichever is older. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I'd love to sit down with some of you and have a look at these games I've heard so much about. This reminds me I need to find a copy of EAW. I'm sure that I couldn't even play some of the older games on my rig. I couldn't even get X-Wing Alliance to look right with the new graphics drivers and that's not old at all.

That BoB stuff looks like 8-bit color. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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PzKpfw
04-01-2004, 10:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GSNei:
That and Chuck Yeagers Air Combat were among the first computer games I ever owned. I loaded Aces in my 486DX250 and it wouldn't run. Not enough memory? "Boot disk"? What's that?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

OMG CYAC, I still have that to http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.


Regards, John Waters

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GSNei
04-01-2004, 10:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>OMG CYAC, I still have that to .


Also - B17 Queen of the Skies - Microprose, I think that was the title. TM FCS pro was my first joystick, when the first throttle, the one with the dip switches, came out got that too. Ditto when the first rudders came out.

TAGERT.
04-01-2004, 11:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by huggy87:
That had to be one of my favorite simulations. I think it came out around 92-93'. It had a great plane list including oddballs like the Ki-27, Ki-45, and Ki-100 and the Japanese Jets. I hope Pacific Fighters has at least as many planes!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>AOTP.. what's that? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Il2pongo
04-02-2004, 11:43 AM
Battle Hawks 1942
BOB
SWOTL
Aces of the Pacific
Aces Over Europe

All these games really show that although simulation has really improved in 15 years..game design has not. As games they are all supperior to anything out.
Case in point. Your wingmen in SWOTL got better if you let them get kills and medals.
By the end of the campaign if you have nurtured them they are whiping out the enemy before you can get there...

Chuck yeagers..want to fly a 190 against a mig 15...

MrOblongo
04-02-2004, 03:13 PM
Ur forgetting one of the serie...

RED BARON!!

I played that on my 286 with black & White monitor (Hercules), and 12Mhz and 640kb RAM http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

AOTP and AOE are the 2 sims on the top of my list, not arcade style was PURE realism (at least the most u can get with those old computers) and SWOTL strategic campaing is the BEST CAMPANIG STYLE EVER, manage your resources and fight, was awesome, assign fighters to the bases, put alerts to the airfields, airplane production, etc...

We need AOTP 2/AOE 2/SWOTL2 (Just improve graphics!) nothing more, nothing less.

TAGERT.
04-02-2004, 05:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MrOblongo:
We need AOTP 2/AOE 2/SWOTL2 (Just improve graphics!) nothing more, nothing less.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>LOL! You dont get out much do you? That or you have a very bad memory of those sims.. The flight models were Great for their day... But by todays standards they would be considered total crud!! TOTAL! And as for SWOTL 2.. it is out now.. by the same guys who made the orgainal.. And they seem to have taken your advice and only updated the graphics.. In that the FM's are a joke! And from what I hear so are the sales! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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jensenpark
04-02-2004, 06:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hans-Schultz:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jensenpark:
That was a great game.

Microprose I think?

First big step forward from SWOTL I think.

http://www.unicover.com/images/G6A876.JPG <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dynamix made AOTP and was published my sierra, to my knowlege Dynamix does not exist anymore.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

thats right...dynamix and sierra. Also made the great Aces over Europe - which also was a great breakthrough for the time.

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ARSNL
04-02-2004, 07:38 PM
There were 4 by Dynamix/Seirra. A-10 Tankkiller(89), Red Baron(90), AOTP(92) and AOE(93). They were all made by the person who was The Man in flight sims at the time, Damon Slye. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I also loved the old Lucas ones back when it was Lucasfilm Games, BH:1942, TFH:BOB, and of course SWOTL. Remember how Lucas hit us for every single plane to be added to that one! (I remember buying them all on 5 1/4) Thank god for 1C and expansion patches!

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Chuck_Older
04-02-2004, 08:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MrOblongo:
Ur forgetting one of the serie...

RED BARON!!

I played that on my 286 with black & White monitor (Hercules), and 12Mhz and 640kb RAM http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

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I'll go you one better than Red Baron http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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olaleier
04-02-2004, 08:30 PM
I had Blue Max on PC.

I remember trying it on my 386DX-40 (upgraded from 286-16 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )
and thinking:

"These graphics suck!"

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Baltar
04-02-2004, 08:57 PM
Until Il-2 every other flight sim I saw disappointed me because they failed to match the shear variety of aircraft in AoP. I love how they distinguished between the different services (USN, USAAF, USMC, IJAF, IJN) and within each roster was a fair number of planes. I'd hope for something similar from PF.

aminx
04-03-2004, 12:58 PM
question???
will this new sim have the whole dynamic campaign from begining to end with results, pilot career.briefing room, change of planes etc???
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FBLover
04-03-2004, 06:43 PM
Aces of the Pacific was a great simulation back then but I hope that Pacific Fighters will update the old horse by the features now being used in FB/AEP. Would like to see 2048x1024 32 bit aircraft and actual terrain from photographic studies of that period. I'm sure Oleg and team have alot of decisions to make when it comes to aircraft inclusion in this new effort. I hope they include them ALL!!!!!!
(By the way, I still have Aces of the Pacific but the computers of this day and age have rendered flyable/controllable aircraft into extinction).

IV|JG51Flatspin
04-03-2004, 08:08 PM
Heck yeah! AOTP was my second sim, Red Baron being the first. Dynamix was the top (IMO) sim creater for years...wonder what happened.

So does that mean that all of us AOTP'ers will have an advantage in PF?? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Tully__
04-03-2004, 11:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by aminx:
question???
will this new sim have the whole dynamic campaign from begining to end with results, pilot career.briefing room, change of planes etc???
aminx

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aminx
04-04-2004, 12:40 AM
ATT MODERATOR TULLY
i was asking wether the game will have a dynamic campaign,i was reffering to this game ,is'nt this game published by ubisoft!!??
cheers
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