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XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 11:07 PM
In your opinion, what do you think is the best american fighter yet in-game? Notice the P-51 isn't in the game yet untill the add-on. Then I think the U.S. will finally have its say in FB. I believe when people get the add-on there will be a lot of complaining about their beloved mustang. Probably because compared to the light russian fighters it wont turn quite as well as they belived. Hopefully the complaining can be kept to a minimum. At the moment I think the P-47 is the best U.S. fighter but not sure what model. The .50 cals have much to be desired though. Unfortunatly it has to zoom and boom. Hopefully .50 cals will have some increase in effectivness so it can kill in one or two runs. What are your thoughts?

XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 11:07 PM
In your opinion, what do you think is the best american fighter yet in-game? Notice the P-51 isn't in the game yet untill the add-on. Then I think the U.S. will finally have its say in FB. I believe when people get the add-on there will be a lot of complaining about their beloved mustang. Probably because compared to the light russian fighters it wont turn quite as well as they belived. Hopefully the complaining can be kept to a minimum. At the moment I think the P-47 is the best U.S. fighter but not sure what model. The .50 cals have much to be desired though. Unfortunatly it has to zoom and boom. Hopefully .50 cals will have some increase in effectivness so it can kill in one or two runs. What are your thoughts?

XyZspineZyX
09-02-2003, 11:22 PM
what version of the game do you have? Have u downloaded the latest patch? 1.1b..
after the patch the 0.50cals can do alot more damage!
about the p51, remember that it was never famous for being a good turner. It was good at BnZ and pretty fast! use it (when it comes out) as the 190 and p47! and remember to stay hi!! both the p47 and the p51 will get slaughtered down low!
cheers!

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 01:03 AM
I expect people will like the P47 more than the P51, since the P51 will have engine damage just as easily as the 109, if not more so.

Most popular US fighter in the game will be the P38 or the P39 I reckon. Both have nose guns and are decent down low.

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09-03-2003, 01:12 AM
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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 01:35 AM
Bnej_03 wrote:
- I expect people will like the P47 more than the P51,
- since the P51 will have engine damage just as easily
- as the 109, if not more so.
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- Most popular US fighter in the game will be the P38
- or the P39 I reckon. Both have nose guns and are
- decent down low.
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With the current damage model it is very easy to disable the engine of a P-47. Just aim low.

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 02:04 AM
the answer is simple, no american let alone any new aircraft will stand a chance against the almighty HAWKER TYPHOON,all hail!,



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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 03:27 AM
they typhoon had a worse roll rate then the p47, think about a slower roll then the p47 in fb and then ask yourself will the typhoon even stand a chance on a 190s tail. I dont think so.

Right now the only american plane above the charts is the p39s

the p40 and p47 are still well below


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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 08:36 AM
"In service, in addition to engine and structural troubles, the Typhoon proved to have a disappointing performance, its rate of climb being slow and speed falling off alarmingly with altitude. However, it was fast low down and was the only aircraft which could intercept the new German FW190s which had begun to make low-altitude raids over Britain. The Typhoon really excelled as a close support ground-attack fighter."

-Taylor, W.R. Combat Aircraft of the World, Putnam, 1969.

Hmmm. I think if modelled correctly, the Typhoon shouldn't be a particularly dominant air-to-air fighter. Against a Mustang, the Typhoon driver should pin his hopes on suckering the bogey down into a low-altitude fight. Otherwise, he might be in trouble.

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 08:46 AM
No US plane holds a candle to the b239!



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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 10:24 AM
HarryVoyager wrote:
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- With the current damage model it is very easy to
- disable the engine of a P-47. Just aim low.
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- Harry Voyager

Maybe with a VVS canon or MG but with a LW plane?

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 10:29 AM
Easy: The P-39!

The only problem with that aircraft is of course it's less-than-martial looks. It looks like a Cessna that plays and both teams and would prefer to have a pink skin and flowers in the cockpit. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

But it's a great little thing to fly.

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 11:16 AM
I've always enjoyed the P-51 B or C models. It has just as much speed as the D and turns much better. Much fewer were made though.

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 11:38 AM
I think most ppl will prefer the P47 as it will perform better on lower alt. there are not too many combats taking place at the altitudes where the mustang has it's best performance cause the FM at high altitudes is not really modeled in FB. Personally I' like to see the Spit soon. IMO it's gonna be a more interesting opponent than the P51.

.50 cal are nice now IMHO.

2 things we need in FB:
The 110 and the desert!!!
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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 11:57 AM
It has to be the P-39/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 12:04 PM
FYI. The Brewster is a US plane. Just thought you would like to know.

My openion. As the game is now, the P-39 is the best US FIGHTER. The P-47 is the best fighter/bomber. Soon it will all change with the P-63 being the best FIGHTER, and the P-38 being the best fighter/bomber. Better loadout on the P-38 and more nimble. P-63 will get the boost in speed and climb it needs and keep its nice turning ability.

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 12:14 PM
Typhoonmk1b wrote:
- the answer is simple, no american let alone any new
- aircraft will stand a chance against the almighty
- HAWKER TYPHOON,all hail!,

Down low, maybe, but the Typhoon wasn't that
great. Now if you'd said Tempest...

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 12:16 PM
Gershy wrote:
- I think most ppl will prefer the P47 as it will
- perform better on lower alt.

The P51 was faster at low altitude than the P47.

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 12:51 PM
No-one rate the P40 then? I rather like it...

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 02:00 PM
The plane is only part of the equation. The pilot is more important unless the disparity is glaring...(can you say "The final Countdown"?) IMO the best US plane cirrently flyable in FB is the P-39. The P-47 is a very tight second dependint on what you are doing. If I was ground pounding Id rather do it in a Jug where i could do some damage on the ground and still defend myself in the air. For stricly air to air I'll take a P-39.


Dnnc wrote:
Then I think the U.S. will finally have its say in FB. I believe when people get the add-on there will be a lot of complaining about their beloved mustang. Probably because compared to the light russian fighters it wont turn quite as well as they belived.

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 02:11 PM
In our usual environment of combat (low-level fighter vs. fighter combat), the P-39 is a real killer when flown carefully.

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 02:17 PM
P51 will be nice to have - much faster than the p39/p51

Probably as fragile as the 109 - but can be used similiar to a 109?


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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 02:44 PM
The Fokker G.i will outturn the P-38 anyday. And it was only that much slower /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 02:59 PM
I just haven't been able to take a strong liking to the P-39, but the B-239?...I likey! It turns on a dime and if kept above 500m and 400kph is tough to beat. It's only drawback is the relatively light armament of 4 .50's. Nonetheless, I can usually gat a kill and make it back home safely in the little bumblebee. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif





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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 03:14 PM
P-47's Baby-Brownings are still not what they used to be...
Cockpit sometimes got filled with gunsmoke...havn't smell anything in Full Real mode...
Do you call this Full Real? And no smell of gunpowder!!



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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 03:15 PM
HOW DARE YOU BLASPHEME THE ALMIGHTY HAWKER TYPHOON

repent all you sinners and the almighty and all powerful HAWKER TYPHOON may show you mercy, and let you limp back home in your 20mm cannon riddled 190's,p-47's,and mustangs


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XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 03:38 PM
Well, I hope never to get in front of the guns of a Hawker Typhoon.

XyZspineZyX
09-03-2003, 03:59 PM
Suckerpunch11 wrote:
- Well, I hope never to get in front of the guns of a
- Hawker Typhoon.
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I hope too.