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julien673
03-05-2004, 10:13 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif The komet plane can t take off.. engine failure all the time

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gifThe sound of the air brake in the new stuka didn t work(D-5)

julien673
03-05-2004, 10:13 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif The komet plane can t take off.. engine failure all the time

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gifThe sound of the air brake in the new stuka didn t work(D-5)

necrobaron
03-05-2004, 01:47 PM
The Komet problem is a known bug and will be fixed. As for the Stuka,the air brake "sound" is the siren. I can't remember,but I think the D-5 might've had the sirens removed.

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VW-IceFire
03-05-2004, 01:53 PM
I can't remember if the D-5 had sirens or not but for the uninformed that classic "dive sound" is actually a siren that makes noise in high speed dives. It was used for pyschological warfare...made the dive bomber even more fearsome than it actually was.

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GonzoX
03-05-2004, 03:06 PM
Really? I read that the siren was put on for humane reasons. Mainly to warn people to vacate the target.

Not sure what they did if the target happened to be a soft target.

At least from what I read, that was the original intent.

BerkshireHunt
03-05-2004, 03:43 PM
Albert Speer records in his Spandau diaries that the Ju87 sirens were Hitler's idea- he thought it would terrify those under attack.

Speer says: "He (Hitler) may well be remembered as one of the greatest psychologists of all time- though a failed war leader and politician. He was always thinking of the psychological impact of his decisions and speeches. I remember him virtually pleading with me to agree that it would be a good idea to install swirling flame throwers on the Normandy beaches because of the terror it would spread amongst invading troops- he insisted that nothing frightened a soldier more than the prospect of being burned alive. Dr Porsche was asked to look into it. Similarly, Hitler held up introduction of the infantryman's machine gun (schmeisser) because he thought it would undermine the soldierly virtues of bayonet practice. Always the psychological."

necrobaron
03-05-2004, 03:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BerkshireHunt:

Speer says: "He (Hitler) may well be remembered as one of the greatest psychologists of all time- though a failed war leader and politician. He was always thinking of the psychological impact of his decisions and speeches. I remember him virtually pleading with me to agree that it would be a good idea to install swirling flame throwers on the Normandy beaches because of the terror it would spread amongst invading troops- he insisted that nothing frightened a soldier more than the prospect of being burned alive. Dr Porsche was asked to look into it. Similarly, Hitler held up introduction of the infantryman's machine gun (schmeisser) because he thought it would undermine the soldierly virtues of bayonet practice. Always the psychological."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gifWow. That's bizarre. But yes,Gonzo,like the others have said, the sirens were used as a terror weapon.

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SUPERAEREO
03-05-2004, 05:15 PM
Most D-5 did not have sirens installed as a standard.

Easy to see if they are there or not: they are those things jutting out of the front of the undercarriage legs with little propellers on them.

Unfortunately I will have to wait another couple of weeks to buy AEP...

S!

plumps_
03-05-2004, 05:36 PM
I guess that with their 20 mm cannons the D5 was used for low level attacks and strafing rather than dive bombing. So it makes sense to remove anything that slows the plane down.

What does the object viewer say about this type?

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necrobaron
03-05-2004, 05:54 PM
You are correct. By the time the D-5 came around, many Stuka units were performing ground attacks as opposed to dive-bombing. The dive-bombing that was done was also at shallower angles. Many D-5s even had the dive-brakes removed,but the AEP version doesn't.

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Timochka
03-06-2004, 12:23 AM
Sirens were removed because the effect of them was no more. Also they gave some drag, thus removing them gave a few more kph of precious speed.