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jagdmailer
01-25-2004, 08:32 PM
Oleg,

Any chance of getting a confirmation that the Luftwaffe large ordinance needed to accurately depict historically accurate loadouts will make it in the pay add-on ??

ie. Still missing from FB at least:

SC1000 & SC 1000 Hermann
SC1700
SC1800A & SC1800B
SC2000
SC2500
PC1400
PC1600
SD1000
SD1700
.....

I understant that all of those were made & sent to you by Xanty last September or October.

Additionally, are the accurate loadouts for He 111H, Fw 190F-8, Ju 87D just to name a few that includes those missing bombs will be corrected in the add-on ??

I know you have made a reference or 2 about adding several new loadouts to LW aircrafts for the payware add-on in the Fall in an post, but nothing since then and nothing really definate and we are now less than a month from a potential release date (Feb 18th in some E-stores ?)......Could that be part of the bonus ?? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

We also need those bombs for the Do 217 variants and the He 177A-5 that Omega Squad are working on, and Jippo & crew needs some of those for his flyable Ju 88 (ie. at least 2 X PC1400 load.....)

I know it would really make my day and a lot of other people's too!

Thanks,

JagdMailer

jagdmailer
01-25-2004, 08:32 PM
Oleg,

Any chance of getting a confirmation that the Luftwaffe large ordinance needed to accurately depict historically accurate loadouts will make it in the pay add-on ??

ie. Still missing from FB at least:

SC1000 & SC 1000 Hermann
SC1700
SC1800A & SC1800B
SC2000
SC2500
PC1400
PC1600
SD1000
SD1700
.....

I understant that all of those were made & sent to you by Xanty last September or October.

Additionally, are the accurate loadouts for He 111H, Fw 190F-8, Ju 87D just to name a few that includes those missing bombs will be corrected in the add-on ??

I know you have made a reference or 2 about adding several new loadouts to LW aircrafts for the payware add-on in the Fall in an post, but nothing since then and nothing really definate and we are now less than a month from a potential release date (Feb 18th in some E-stores ?)......Could that be part of the bonus ?? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

We also need those bombs for the Do 217 variants and the He 177A-5 that Omega Squad are working on, and Jippo & crew needs some of those for his flyable Ju 88 (ie. at least 2 X PC1400 load.....)

I know it would really make my day and a lot of other people's too!

Thanks,

JagdMailer

Copperhead310th
01-26-2004, 12:35 AM
Gee how many of these were experimental or never made it into combat?

I would sugest seeing the P-38 Load out thread.

If the P-38 can't have experimental load outs then nethier should any other plane. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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jagdmailer
01-26-2004, 12:58 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
Gee how many of these were experimental or never made it into combat?

I would sugest seeing the P-38 Load out thread.

If the P-38 can't have experimental load outs then nethier should any other plane. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

None of those were experimental and all made it into combat.......

Jagd

carguy_
01-26-2004, 01:13 AM
Remember to add 2x MG151[without bombrack] loadout for FW190!

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FW190fan
01-26-2004, 10:09 AM
Historic loadouts.

I didn't know that these had been modelled and sent to Oleg. Is this correct? If so, I'm sure Oleg and company will do their best to include them and they will be greatly appreciated.

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Boandlgramer
01-26-2004, 10:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jagdmailer:
Oleg,

Any chance of getting a confirmation that the Luftwaffe large ordinance needed to accurately depict historically accurate loadouts will make it in the pay add-on ??

ie. Still missing from FB at least:

SC1000 & SC 1000 Hermann
SC1700
SC1800A & SC1800B
SC2000
SC2500
PC1400
PC1600
SD1000
SD1700
.....

I understant that all of those were made & sent to you by Xanty last September or October.

Additionally, are the accurate loadouts for He 111H, Fw 190F-8, Ju 87D just to name a few that includes those missing bombs will be corrected in the add-on ??

I know you have made a reference or 2 about adding several new loadouts to LW aircrafts for the payware add-on in the Fall in an post, but nothing since then and nothing really definate and we are now less than a month from a potential release date (Feb 18th in some E-stores ?)......Could that be part of the bonus ?? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

We also need those bombs for the Do 217 variants and the He 177A-5 that Omega Squad are working on, and Jippo & crew needs some of those for his flyable Ju 88 (ie. at least 2 X PC1400 load.....)

I know it would really make my day and a lot of other people's too!

Thanks,

JagdMailer<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i am sure, oleg does ,what his time allow.

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jagdmailer
01-26-2004, 10:27 AM
FW190Fan,

At least those large bombs were made by Xanty (He 111) and sent to Oleg in September or October 2003.

SC1000
SC1700
SC1800A
SC2000
SC2500
PC1400
PC1600
SD1700

Not sure about the next 3, although I had politely ask for them from Xanty after he made the first batch and I found out those were missing:

SD1000
SC1000 "Hermann"
SC1800B

All of the accurate loadouts for the LW aircrafts currently in Il-2/FB were sent to Oleg by Butch2K early summer 2003 after we found out that the He 111H-2 only had 50 & 70Kg bombs, that the H-6's biggest bomb was an SC500, and that you could still not have an SC1000 on either the Fw-190F-8 or Ju 87D-3....just to name a few of the current (v1.22) loudout issues...http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif......BTW, still no drop-tank or ETC250 available on the Friedrich....


Jagd

owlwatcher
01-30-2004, 04:39 AM
It would be nice to have better selection of accurate loadouts .

jagdmailer
01-30-2004, 08:11 PM
Indeed....http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bump......Oleg can you confirm that this stuff is in the Ace add-on ???

Nothing in the UBI pre-order site about any new loadouts although you mentioned that there would be several new historical loads for the LW....to me, this kind of stuff almost take precedence over new aircrafts, since how good is a new bomber if you can only get SC50 or SC70s to load it with....as a matter of speaking.......

Basically, I would ratter have all of those new bombs, than 5 or 6 new AI aircrafts....

I know you busy but please answer, or please get the UBI's PR dept to confirm on UBI's pre-order site.

And BTW, Bf 110C-4/B I have been waiting for to fly since Il-2 original release.....

Thanks,

Jagdmailer
Omega Squad

jagdmailer
02-01-2004, 03:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jagdmailer:
Indeed....http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bump......Oleg can you confirm that this stuff is in the Ace add-on ???

Nothing in the UBI pre-order site about any new loadouts although you mentioned that there would be several new historical loads for the LW....to me, this kind of stuff almost take precedence over new aircrafts, since how good is a new bomber if you can only get SC50 or SC70s to load it with....as a matter of speaking.......

Basically, I would ratter have all of those new bombs, than 5 or 6 new AI aircrafts....

I know you busy but please answer, or please get the UBI's PR dept to confirm on UBI's pre-order site.

And BTW, Bf 110C-4/B I have been waiting for to fly since Il-2 original release.....

Thanks,

Jagdmailer
Omega Squad<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

BUMP......

Fornixx
02-02-2004, 04:36 PM
Bump!

Recon_609IAP
02-02-2004, 05:18 PM
Agreed!

I hope we see this for the He111

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Recon_609IAP
02-03-2004, 03:15 PM
bumpty bump

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lbhskier37
02-03-2004, 04:49 PM
mmm PC1600 would be fun against ships.

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jagdmailer
02-03-2004, 05:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lbhskier37:
mmm PC1600 would be fun against ships.

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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

lbhskier37,

Jippo has a 2 X PC1400 for his flyable Ju 88A-4 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

We are considering our options as far as our Dornier 217 E/K/M variants as well as our He 177A-5 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif All I can say for now is that the He 177A-5's ETC external pylons are rated at 2000Kg each http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Stay tuned !

JagdMailer
Omega Squad

Gibbage1
02-03-2004, 10:57 PM
Even if these loadouts made it into the add-on, what could carry it?

Gib

necrobaron
02-03-2004, 11:22 PM
I wish we could get the "watering cans" for the Stuka as a loadout option.....

"Not all who wander are lost."

jagdmailer
02-04-2004, 12:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gibbage1:
Even if these loadouts made it into the add-on, what could carry it?

Gib<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Had a detailed answer but it crashed when I submitted the post.

Short answer, currently He 111 & Ju88A both can handle larger than SC500 bombs. Fw 190F-8 & Ju 87D-3 are rated up to 1800Kg, although probably not practical much beyond 1000Kg.

Butch2K forwarded to Oleg all of the loadouts for LW aircrafts currently in the sim circa early summer 2003.

As far as we are concerned (Omega), we need all up at least SC2000 for He 177 & several Do 217 variants. As an exemple, we have a short range overload Rüstzustand A for He 177 using 4 mounting point of 2 X SC1800 + 2 X SC1700.

Later versions of He 111 could carry SC2000 externally in conjunction with a SC500.

Jippo has confirmed a load of 2 X PC1400 in his research to Oleg for his flyable Ju 88A series.

In any event, not having anything beyond SC500 for the LW as the current situation for a sim of this magnitude is rather lame as far as I am concerned.

Cheers,

JagdMailer

Gibbage1
02-04-2004, 12:52 AM
OK. It was used. But how rare was the 1800Kg bomb on the 190? From what I heard on other threads, it needed stronger landing gear and a well groomed and LONG runway. But if the Pe-8 gets that big 5000Kg bomb, I guess 190's sould be able to carry an 1800Kg bomb.

lbhskier37
02-04-2004, 01:03 AM
you gotta admitt the LW has been pretty shorted on ordinance(as has the RAF and US though). It seems that any VVS plane that could carry any bomb or rocket has it as an option, not so on the Hurri, 190 D9, 109 F2/4, etc. The big bombs would really be nice for antishipping, any PC bombs would be nice for tanks, and AB500s that worked right would be great too. Not to mention those rockets they stuck on the P47 and P51, and a late model Hurri with rockets(Rommel always cursed those rocket toteing hurris)

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Stefan-R
02-04-2004, 02:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Boandlgramer:


i am sure, oleg does ,what his time allow.

RED_Boandl
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But does he have the time to add these loadouts with all these EXPERIMENTAL aircrafts that will be in the addon?
Better add some bombs than such stupid planes (P-80, Go229, Bf 109Z)

Recon_609IAP
02-04-2004, 07:48 AM
"But how rare was the 1800Kg bomb on the 190?"

Not any more rare than a mig-3u in the skies or a 109z http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Recon_609IAP
02-04-2004, 07:50 AM
I definitely would like to see the he111 have a larger payload in the addon

once again, we don't really know what this addon is bringing to us - it creates many threads and much confusion.

Someone needs to go back to school and learn how to market a product and have a good pr relationship with the customer http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Willey
02-04-2004, 08:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jagdmailer:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
Gee how many of these were experimental or never made it into combat?

I would sugest seeing the P-38 Load out thread.

If the P-38 can't have experimental load outs then nethier should any other plane. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

None of those were experimental and all made it into combat.......

Jagd<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not only that they are experimental. The current loadouts are just plain wrong partially. For example those 109s shouldn't have 500kg bombs, except K-4. But why only SC?? AB and SD should be there, 2. And pls, make a difference between SC and SD. Somehow, there is none (different blast radius for example). Some planes don't even have loadouts although they had some IRL... 109F, 190D, Hurri... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. Not to mention the Heinkel mess. Due to this FUBAR board, I can't find those threads anymore, where butch posted some real loadout lists for most german planes. I bumped them right before the migration, but they seem to be lost, as the search doesn't bring them up. Nice search.

PS I thought the experimental 14x HVAR option will be available... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Recon_609IAP
02-04-2004, 08:13 AM
Could this include loadouts for 109F as well.

Also, did 109's have the ability to carry both droptanks and gunpods?

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Boandlgramer
02-04-2004, 09:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stefan-R:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Boandlgramer:


i am sure, oleg does ,what his time allow.

RED_Boandl
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But does he have the time to add these loadouts with all these EXPERIMENTAL aircrafts that will be in the addon?
Better add some bombs than such stupid planes (P-80, Go229, Bf 109Z)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

well stefan,
may there are many people, who like these "stupid" planes.
may they would only buy the ace-addon when such an airplane is in the pack,
i also wanna see the Panzerblitz rockets, and hope oleg has the time to do it till the addon goes gold.
if not, we have to wait . http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
life is hard.

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