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Thunak
04-19-2004, 10:08 AM
A magazine is currently looking for testimonies of people whose lives have been affected (for better or worse) as a result of their being part of online communities. Naturally, the first community that came to mind was IL-2's. Going back through Cartrix's files I found 3 stories that he'd marked but he failed to write down who they belonged to and I'm afraid they might have been lost during the forum migration. Please let me know if you recognize them:

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"Gamer X suggested that we go grab a scale model of our favorite plane(s) and paint them like our online paintscheme, then stick them on top of our monitor. Over a year later, I've become an avid scale modeler (never did one before Gamer X's suggestion) and have a nice growing collection including a Spitfire, BF109, FW190, IL2, JU88, P40, P47, Nieuport, and upcoming Typhoon, another Spit, another BF109, and an Albatross"

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"If it wasnt for IL2 I wouldnt have got a ride in a real P51 - a once in a lifetime chance..."

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"Some weeks ago I posted some pics of the BF 109 my grandfather flew in WW2. I had absolutely no idea where the pics were taken, apart from a few hints. No solid lead though.

Now here is the cool part: Within a day I had 3 offers to do the skin for me and a link to the
JG 52 Heritage site and contact to the chairman. The Messer was identified as a F4 model and I found out that my Grandpa did indeed fly for the III/JG 52 at one point. Since his logbook burned when he was shot down, I had no solid way of tracing his way through the war. Now I have about 5 or six ways to find out more...."

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If you too have an interesting story you'd like to share with the rest of the world, please post it here so we may get you in touch with the journalist

Thanks,

T

Thunak
04-19-2004, 10:08 AM
A magazine is currently looking for testimonies of people whose lives have been affected (for better or worse) as a result of their being part of online communities. Naturally, the first community that came to mind was IL-2's. Going back through Cartrix's files I found 3 stories that he'd marked but he failed to write down who they belonged to and I'm afraid they might have been lost during the forum migration. Please let me know if you recognize them:

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"Gamer X suggested that we go grab a scale model of our favorite plane(s) and paint them like our online paintscheme, then stick them on top of our monitor. Over a year later, I've become an avid scale modeler (never did one before Gamer X's suggestion) and have a nice growing collection including a Spitfire, BF109, FW190, IL2, JU88, P40, P47, Nieuport, and upcoming Typhoon, another Spit, another BF109, and an Albatross"

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"If it wasnt for IL2 I wouldnt have got a ride in a real P51 - a once in a lifetime chance..."

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"Some weeks ago I posted some pics of the BF 109 my grandfather flew in WW2. I had absolutely no idea where the pics were taken, apart from a few hints. No solid lead though.

Now here is the cool part: Within a day I had 3 offers to do the skin for me and a link to the
JG 52 Heritage site and contact to the chairman. The Messer was identified as a F4 model and I found out that my Grandpa did indeed fly for the III/JG 52 at one point. Since his logbook burned when he was shot down, I had no solid way of tracing his way through the war. Now I have about 5 or six ways to find out more...."

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If you too have an interesting story you'd like to share with the rest of the world, please post it here so we may get you in touch with the journalist

Thanks,

T

CowboyTodd41
04-19-2004, 10:28 AM
My grandfather was a bombidier navigator during WWII in the 416th BG of the 9th AF flying in A-20 Havocs and A-26 Invaders. I've seen a game where I could fly either one of those planes until I saw a recent update about the A-20 that is in development. The screens were of the BN position and I finnaly got to see what my grandfather did. It's something that has always interested me and now I'm lucky enough to see it.

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Tgan92/newsig.gif

Bearcat99
04-19-2004, 01:06 PM
Before I bought IL2 my only experience with online communities was the MSN Gaming Zone in particularly the CFS 1 & 2 rooms and I had never even heard of a Lavochkin or a Yakovlev. Since getting IL2 and coming here I routinely correspond with people from all over the world, have learned more about WW2 aviation and history than I knew existed and have had more fun on my computer than I ever dreamed was possible. Due to my online adventures representing the Tuskegee Airmen I have since spoken to several of them and communicated with the widow of the first CO of the 99th. All in all I must say it has been a very rewarding experience for me.

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>http://www.jodavidsmeyer.com/combat/bookstore/tuskegeebondposter.jpg (http://tuskegeeairmen.org/airmen/who.html)[/list]<UL TYPE=SQUARE>vflyer@comcast.net [/list]<UL TYPE=SQUARE>99thPursuit Squadron IL2 Forgotten Battles (http://www.geocities.com/rt_bearcat)[/list]
UDQMG (http://www.uberdemon.com/index2.html) | HYPERLOBBY (http://hyperfighter.jinak.cz/) | IL2 Manager (http://www.checksix-fr.com/bibliotheque/detail_fichier.php?ID=1353) | MUDMOVERS (http://www.mudmovers.com/)

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-19-2004, 01:24 PM
I've learned many different things as a result of IL2 and the accompanying community. As a result of this game I've studied and researched how to build my own PC. I'm starting on my 5th one this month to add to my network and have moved into building the third generation of my ideal flight-sim cockpit. Also, I've learned how small the world really is. Before IL2, my world (and I considered myself to be fairly worldly) consisted mostly of the western hemisphere and primarily North America. Now, I can say I have friends accross the world whom I stay in touch with regularly and exchange ideas and concerns with all while playing this game we call IL2.

While my Wife and kids laugh at me, they also say they think it's cool.



http://home.earthlink.net/~aclzkim1/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/il2sig2.jpg

yak52tw
04-19-2004, 01:36 PM
I used Il-2 to pick a paint scheme for my Yak-52 TW.
http://www.t1aviation.com/Images/Rote13/YakBanner-frame.jpg

VFS-22_Aslan
04-19-2004, 01:55 PM
Awhile back a good friend, and I were flying a co-op mission together, and we were using voice comms and both had Track_IR which makes it so realistic at times it's hard to describe.

On this mission we were flying our usual
FW 190 A5's after a hair raising battle in which we both managed to survive we found ourselves in the midst of some clouds looking for the other pair of 190's we were winged up with. I scanned the sky ,but could not see far in the cloud cover, then I spotted two 190's at our low 2 o clock I mentioned it to my wingman and we dove down (me in the lead) I got right on top of the 190's only to discover that they were in fact La-7's I think we both realised it at the same time because the LA's panicked as bad as we did in our 190's. A battle ensued!
Out of the 4 of us none were shot down, but I think we all had some damage done during the brief fight.
This is but one story I can tell from Il2 flying that directly relates to a true story I have read about WWII, but the main difference here is that I actually experienced it instead of reading and wondering what it would be like.
IL2 is has the best "feeling" of flight than any other simulator I have ever tried. It is wonderful to be able to re live the air battles of WWII, and In my opinion the only thing IL2 cannot do is G forces, and Fear.

Oleg Maddox has done alot of good things for the flight sim community, but one of the things Oleg has done is kindled an interest of WWII flight, and history in many young minds. I know many who now fly IL2 that didn't really know much of anything about WWII Aviation, but now they do!!!!

PBNA-Boosher
04-19-2004, 02:20 PM
I used to be a very solitary person. I kept to myself a lot of the time. I ate alone at lunch in my high school cafeteria of over 500 people. I would deliberately seek out empty tables! I started flying on IL2 about three years ago. I realized, even when in single player mode, that in order to stay alive, you need to work in teams. When IL2 Forgotten Battles came out, I ventured forth into the online Arena and dueled with a few pilots. I did rather well, but this team of two kept shooting me down. I joined a squadron, and flew with them for a bit. I eventually became the XO of the squadron, and am now the stand in CO of the squad with another 2nd in command. The bonds in the squadron are pretty tight, and we fly more than once a day for the most part. Flying online and meeting other people has definitely changed me for the better. While still hard, it is easier for me to trust people. I realize now that not all people are out to get you, and some just want to be your friend.
For example, I got involved in a play after flying online, and loved it! I met someone in the play, and spoke to them less than two minutes all year, but this year, all that changed. It's now her senior year, and when I was walking home, she forced me to get into her car and let me drive her home. I had no choice, she wouldn't budge the car, and kept blocking my path no matter how hard I tried to evade her.
The reason I was able to make such a strong bond with this senior is because of the experience I had with this online community. I took everything slowly, in steps. I mastered the art of talking to people quickly, in chat, then on voice comms. Now I speak to people's faces as easily as if I'm online.

The greatest part about an online community is that you can join one that is specific to your needs or hobbies. I joined one that happened to be centered on flight, and because we all share a common bond, aviation! It doesn't matter what country you are from, what age you are, or even if you're Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Black, White, Male or Female. There's a group that's good for everyone, you just have to take action and find it.
It's the same in the real world. The online group helped me focus and make friends in the real world. Quite often, I turn to them for advice, and I help them when they need me. An Online community is a learning experience that everyone should share. If I could make friends in places as far away as Norway, Germany, and Russia, based on this sole interest in flight, anything else is possible. You just have to take the steps to do it.

Tvrdi
04-19-2004, 02:32 PM
when i first saw Il2 sim and tried, my girlfriend said that I have a mistress now http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

SeaFireLIV
04-19-2004, 03:18 PM
Well, if it hadn`t been for this forum and IL2, I would NEVER have started doing these type of cartoon pictures just for others to see. I`m a MUCH MORE serious and dark artist, so this is really something that would not have existed otherwise.

SeaFireLIV...



http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v31/SeaFireLIV/Sveno.jpg

`FLY my children! FLY!`

SodBuster43
04-19-2004, 03:52 PM
As a virtual pilot and player of IL-2 my life has been enriched quite a bit.

Following a nasty divorce I found that IL-2 was a good outlet for some frustrations resulting from this. As time went by I discovered the forums and actively participated for better or even worse at times. I have found out what my foot tastes like as well http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif There seams to be an initiation period in these forums.

Without having played IL-2, I would also have been less inclined to learn more about the eastern front of WWII. I have even checked out and purchased some books on the subject.

I have also found to my surprise that the people that play games like IL-2 come from all age groups and all walks of life. I am 43 years old and many of the players are much older than I am. Many have served or are serving in their countries military and some are active pilots.

Typically, people that frequent the IL-2 forums are decent fun loving human beings. I have even had the oportunity to meet and chat with people from all over the globe. Some online friendships have developed from this.

Furthermore, there is a wealth of knowledge and artistic talent in these forums and is a good outlet for anyone wishing to participate.

In conclusion, I am very pleased with my decision to participate in IL-2.

Gibbage1
04-19-2004, 04:14 PM
How about this.

"I lost my job because of IL2, but got a much better job because of IL2".

Hehehehe.

Gib

My post's are my asumptions only, and in no way linked to fact. I am not an official 1C, Ubi, or Russian Red Rocket spokesman.

"Most P-39's were sent to the Russians - so I guess that was an American secret weapon against our Russian allies."

Stan Wood, P-38 pilot who also flew the P-39.

Raven4803
04-19-2004, 04:23 PM
"If it wasnt for IL2 I wouldnt have got a ride in a real P51 - a once in a lifetime chance..."

That sounds like BlitzPig_Hilts, i'll put a post in out forum to grab his attention...

Y-29_Asch
04-19-2004, 04:24 PM
As most people who reply to this post...I'm also touched by this game...as it is indeed more than a game. It ignited my long lost hobby and interest in WWII planes, and in addition my interest for WWII. In my job I work with eldery people, and I now ask them a lot about what they experienced during the war...Mostly the stories they tell are from my neighbourhood, and they give me a surreal image of all the commotion that occured around here... The nearest by there had been 'The Battle of Asch' at het allied forward base Y-29. As it almost happened in my parents' home backyard I have looked up quite a lot of this (for some) famous battle there...just type it in at google..you'll get enough to read and wonder...My parents were originally from Antwerp and especially my father remembers a lot of the bombardements of He-111s, stuka's and later V1 and V2...He can also tell me about the allied defense from these V1 attacks and how they truly rescued the city which wouldn't have any old buildings otherwise..and maybe I wouldn't ever have experienced this game...couse of such a V1 hitting my grandparents home...
I thank the developers for a great game...it's a game worth buying and playing for a million times!

Jan, Belgium

Captain_Hilts
04-19-2004, 05:40 PM
Blitzpig hilts reporting in ! , the P51 one is me , I rode in P51D "Ridgerunner 3" thanks to Blitzpig Tailspin

[This message was edited by Captain_Hilts on Mon April 19 2004 at 04:49 PM.]

mandiares
04-19-2004, 05:58 PM
I simply falled in love for this vicious.

My wife sad. You must be choose, FB or me.

This game causes familiar problems of relationship and bad behavior.

ElfunkoI
04-19-2004, 08:00 PM
I started playing Il2 many a moon ago, and just recently me and my girlfriend have gotten involved with another girl. Many fantastic events have we all three begot, and I am living a dream. Caused by IL2? Maybe, or maybe IL2 was caused by a developers love triangle between real flight and computers?

"A6?http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Will be A6!"

xTHRUDx
04-19-2004, 09:24 PM
I used to spend obscene amounts of time flying online. Got really excited about AEP and purchased it before my local game store employee had a chance to put it on the shelf. It came with no dedicated server and now my machine has been a paper weight ever since AEP came out.

clint-ruin
04-19-2004, 09:38 PM
Il-2 ate my hamster.

And I used to have two legs.

It's all Olegs fault.

http://users.bigpond.net.au/gwen/fb/leninkoba.jpg

Aztek_Eagle
04-19-2004, 09:41 PM
I Have gain 20 kilograms since i started playing flight simulator 4 years ago, and my back is bending for being siting here, ho the days when i used to go out to ride the bike around a lake for an hour a day at least, now i spend more than that playing this adicting klling simulator........ bah but... well no one is puting a gun on my head and tell me to fly FLYY MORE!!! NO REST.... bah gona go burn some fat, laters

http://www.angelfire.com/art2/robertosgallery/CORSAIR8.JPG

Aztek_Eagle
04-19-2004, 09:44 PM
ho yes my butt hurts for been sit down here so much, that why i cant ride the bike no more... ho my anus.....

http://www.angelfire.com/art2/robertosgallery/CORSAIR8.JPG

NTESLA
04-19-2004, 09:57 PM
OK, to begin with...I was never an avid WW2 Flight Sim fan until IL2 hit the stores. I tried Jane's WW2 fighters and EAW but none captured me as IL2.
I think it was the attention to detail and physics of the simulator that captured me aswell as a war that I was not to much educated on. I started to read books about the Eastern War and watched the few films that I could find about it. It got to a point that I needed to express my fondness to this great simulator and started to make "virtual movies", so much that I participated on Ubi's first and only IL2 movie contest back in 2003 and won 3rd Place! This fueled my passion of making movies with my favorate simulator. Some of mine were shown in the Paris air show 2003 and others in these forums. I was a part of a small movement of 'virtual movie makers' that started about a year ago and now has grown larger with an eager crowd of IL2 fans and non-fans enjoying this great passion of ours. It created the movie forum room in IL2 and the "University of Virtual Movie Makers" at Virtual War Cinema (http://www.blacksheepwebdesign.net/VirtualWarCinema/).

I have made many international friends and collegues, learned much about movie making from others and teached the new comers the trade on how to make movies. Another great spin-off from all of this was the 'RAF Commonwealth Voice Pack" that I made with the help of a fine group of gentlemen from Canada, Ireland, England, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand just to have English speakers for one of my upcoming movies!!! That is how far IL2 has molded me, I have even turned my room into a personal miniature WW2 Aviation/Aviator museum!

Here is a trailer of my newest virtual films to air soon (thanks to pingu666 for the hosting):


http://www.pingu666.modded.me.uk/bobmovie/thx1138BOB.wmv

http://fluxout.homestead.com/files/Thx-32x.jpg

"You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you"

Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

MatuDa
04-19-2004, 11:52 PM
I shot Bambi's mother with il2. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif

DarkHunter_69th
04-20-2004, 01:40 AM
I'm a retired US Army helicopter mech and getting into flight sims just seemed like a natural thing for me to do. My previous hobby was R/C models. They still are, but flying here is allot cheaper when you crack up.

I've been fly flying sims for many years now. My first was USNF..the orgional. At that time I had a very basic computer and the internet was unheard of for the public (showing my age here..hehe). Then it happened, Janes WW2 Fighters came out with an on-line lobby where to meet others and fly together. According to my wife....I went down hill from there..LOL. I flew Janes for about 3 years. During that time my minimual computer skills increased greatly as well as my programs knowledge, such as Roger Wilco / ICQ / email / web site building...ect.

I've done the squadron bit also, and I'm a memeber of a very great group of people that I've called friends going on over 5 years now....all through the internet. Then like with the advent of Janes...the bar was pushed even further forward and IL-2 hit the market.

So again my abilites in certian areas were challenged...now I learned how to build a computer, dabbled in making my own on-line missions, and also dabbled in my first 3D graphics painting.

Like many others here, Oleg and his group have opened a whole new world for me. With IL-2 FB / ACES I'm now teaching others many of the skills I've learned over these past years. Looking back, orgionaly it all started out as a hobby...now I'm doing stuff for museums and movie makers!!! No way in my wildest dreams would've I thought that kind of thing was in my future..wow!!

The best thing....it's only gonna get better!! With Battle of Britian and Pacfic Fighters on the horizon.....there will be allot more to look forward to. The way that this sim ties so many people together from all over the world it just makes me sit back and smile. Bottom line...it is a great sim and great community.

Salute!

Dark

04-20-2004, 03:30 AM
As a boy in the Late 1960s, I was a junior member of the South Australian War Gaming association.
We where using model tanks and plastic soldiers on large tables formaly used for table tennis, with paper machet constructed landscapes, to give the Battle Field country side form.

This was back in the days before the Windows interface enabled the average man in the street to use a PC let alone a home PC which was unheard of then.
We rolled dice for armour and strike values and AIR STRIKE Values!
It was a Social occasion once a week where opponents met and socialised and shared a common interest.

These days I build virtual Battle Fields in Cyber Space, for myself and total strangers to enjoy,On or Off line as well.
It was an interesting Quantum leap observed within my own life time.
I have found that with the original IL-2 I could simulate a ground battle,between tanks and other military vechicles moving along roads or accross country to capture towns or engage static artillary positions, or other moving armoured units.

An interesting aspect of this sort of Virtual Battlefield was the out come of that Battle could be impacted on by Multiplayer opponents flying Aircraft, just as they could have in real life, of course this is done in Coop Missions Online, though a single player can still accomplish this Off line.
So I did find IL-2 to be more than just a Combat flight Simulator.

Yes war gaming over my life time went from personal contact, into Cyber Space with out the personal contact, however I was able to find more opponents Online at almost anytime of day or night.

HH Quazi
04-20-2004, 04:53 AM
Where else can you, sitting in the States, and three more, possibly stretched across the world, sit and in real time be able to fly in formation close enough to count rivets. Then consider that each has a headshot of themselves attached to the pilots shoulders, (as one of my squad mates has done), and you all are using a voice comms such as TeamSpeak to communicate in real time. Then you see a flight of the enemy below you at 2 o'clock and tactics a re discussed before engaging. And while the battle is on, everyone is asking or telling the other of eminent danger on their six or where the enemy is. You fly in pairs, a wingman for each lead. The battle is over. You pinpoint your position, one to the other, then reform the flight and continue your mission, until all is safe and sound, landed at their home airfield. I can tell you, it's real enough for me. At least enough to experience some of what it was like for a WWII pilot. Such, as the thrill of victory. The relief of survivng a dog fight, or even making it home one more time. This game is so immersive, sometimes after a hard fought battle I feel like writing a letter home because I know I might not have that chance tomorrow, after the battle I encountered today. It feels so real that it is unrealistic, in the sense that you know you are playing a game on a computer, so how can this feel so real? You have to experience it to totally get where myself, and all the others that are posting with stories and comments, are coming from. S!

http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/nightschpanker/QuasiPOWsmall.jpg

Bull-Dog.
04-20-2004, 05:44 AM
`ve been interested it computers since the mid 80s, but was never interested in playing games. aprox 2 years ago I joined a software club which gave me some free gifts, one of which was IL2. It sat on a shelf until one Sunday afternoon I decided to try it.
The first thing that struck me was the increadable graphics and what a challange it was just to stay in the air (using a keyboard). After 2 hours of trying to fly with little success I shut down and put it back on the shelf.
2 weeks later I was in our local supermarket where I spotted a wingman joystick (Half Price). I thought back to the other sunday and decided to buy it, to see what a difference it would make. After a short time I was shooting down A/C and having so much fun I forgot to go to bed.
I am now on my 4th joystick, Ive made my own rudder peddels which have been modified 3 or 4 times. My PC has been totaly rebuilt many times as I am always trying to improve the game and my skills
This is the only game I have ever played, I had no Idea how realistic flight sims are now. I have forsaken all my other interest and my family think I`ve gone insane.

I just wish I could fly like some of you guys who have been siming for years.

http://mysite.freeserve.com/bull_dog/images/4-picture.jpg?0.9775497653600231

BSS_Goat
04-20-2004, 06:13 AM
I was a raging homosexual and alcholic before I found IL2 ..... Thank You Oleg for saving my life!

Punik
04-20-2004, 06:24 AM
IL2 has proven to me, that it is worth buying two copies every time something from the IL2 series shows up. It is my quiet thanx and most visible support to Oleg and his team, for bringing back the meaning of words "flight simulation". http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Online cheating kills online gaming! Death to all online cheating suckers!

Greetings to all who fly better than me, honor to all who ate my lead. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Extreme_One
04-20-2004, 06:29 AM
I thought I was just buying a computer game.
Then I found it was much much more...

When I was starting out I found it difficult (nay impossible) to land so I sought out some help on this very forum.

Due to the warm welcome and informative replies I was landing no problem at all.

But I kept coming back eager to learn more.
I started to take an interest in WWII. I had no real interest before.

Now I read avidly - I communicate with several people all over the world (both privately and on the forums) and try to give something back to the community by way of my campaign creations.

One of the things that really struck me about this community of ours was the constant acts of selflessness from our members, from answering questions to creating skins or campaigns or 3rd party add-ons. The list goes on... And in the main these projects are distributed freely merely to enhance everyone's experience. Generous buch aren't we?

So when I thought I was just buying a PC game I was wrong - I was actually buying into a new lifestyle. Thanks guys!

S! Simon
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Download the USAAF & RAF campaign folders here (http://www.netwings.org/library/Forgotten_Battles/Missions/index-10.html).

Download "North and South" including the Japanese speech-pack here (http://www.netwings.org/library/Forgotten_Battles/Missions/index-12.html). *NEW*

http://server5.uploadit.org/files/simplysimon-spit_sig.jpg

scootertgm
04-20-2004, 11:34 AM
The IL2 community is very special to me. Any gaming comunity will have those who excel in graphics/skinning, building maps/missions and those able to help in tech support. But this game is based on History, and there are many in this community who excel in thier knowledge of history and are willing to share it to help others.

I used to think I knew a good deal about WWII aircraft. In this community, you can post a partial pic of a rather rare aircraft and within 15 minutes someone will tell you what it was and what it was used for.

the community welcomes new members and encourages it's members to learn.

this community remembers those who have past on paying the ultimate price and those who have past on since.

This community has shown me what the community side of a game should look like.

LEBillfish
04-20-2004, 12:03 PM
Amazing.........The flight sim IL2-FB in and of itself though frankly an impressive bit of work simply exemplifies something I find much more so. That being how our world has dramatically changed since the creation of the internet. So much so in fact that the depth of it has barely even been explored.

"Ah, this again" no doubt the first thought to cross the mind of any reading the above. "The internet is so simple, world altering an overstatement" the next. Yet to this I disagree, a novice to both IL2 and the internet, yet can prove it.

As said above the flight sim itself is an impressive bit of work. No doubt the creative talents at Ubi-Soft & Maddox Games excellent at the least. Yet the flight sim itself would not be a quarter of what it is without the community of players who utilize it. More so, who's own creative talents expand it well past its original design.

Improvements to the sim itself in the way of paints, models, input as to play and realistic actions by all components within it contributed to daily by the community at large. Yet that is just a mere fraction of its depth. If one were to peruse the linked websites, they'd soon find actual engineering specs of all aspects of WWII planes, armament and vehicles. More so even to the degree of documenting actual manufacturing processes, materials, in some cases right down to the inner company politics and individuals that created these weapons of war.

They'd also find a wealth of history, history possibly to one day be lost and forgotten as youth finds books a slow media at best. Actual events of the past in the way of battles no matter how large or small. Heroism and combat genius of individuals, cowardice and poor tactics as well. All aspects of a great world conflict, yet right down to single individuals their thoughts and actions documented for posterity.

Yet all of this and much more then I can elucidate on has simply happened due to the community that has been formed around "a sim/game". That focal point has caused this tremendous wealth of information to be collected, logged, and saved by the interests of the few that utilize the sim, yet is available to the billions around the world.

So as IL2 has become a truly impressive piece of work so detailed and so involved, truth be known it has developed from an international interest of the players. All this and so much more quite simply due to the communication tool known as the internet without which IL2 would no doubt be simplistic at best. It affecting all including my own life in the sudden realization of the great expanse of our world, its experience and knowledge, and yet how small it is, each of us able to interact with and affect others from so far away.

An international community all contributing to a common goal. I can think of no finer contrast nor closure for the events that inspired it. World War 2.

~Wielder of the Iron Skillet~
........"Husband Tamer".......
-=Courage~Honor~Tenacity=-

[This message was edited by LEBillfish on Tue April 20 2004 at 01:39 PM.]

ARSNL
04-20-2004, 02:49 PM
May not have interesting long stories, but I did almost starve to death after spending my food $$ on a new joystick for IL-2 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.digitalmelee.com/arsenal/Arse242.gif
Toujours prªt - 'Always ready'

trumper
04-20-2004, 03:42 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I belong to a group developing a bomber command sim www.nightbomber.com (http://www.nightbomber.com) and we fly F/B AEP as a 242 Sqn on Sat nights.
About 9 of us have now met up at least once and some many more times for days out and air displays in the UK,hopefully in a few weeks one of our Aussie colleagues is coming over to the UK and we hope to meet up with him then.
This once big world is slowly shrinking and talking to the squad on T/S is like chatting with old friends.
If you had told me 3 years ago i would own a computer,fly a very very good sim online and make friends with many strangers i would 've laughed at you,oh my wife feels like killing me sometimes because of it and i'm now trying to talk her into letting get Track IR and a new joystick http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

CanonUK
04-20-2004, 03:53 PM
I had done some skinning before IL2:FB, mainly for Janes WW2 Fighters, and Combat Mission : Barbarossa to Berlin.

My interest in skinning, and paintschemes in general rocketed after getting FB. It was great to be contributing to such a great game, and increasing the enjoyment for others. But the icing on the cake was being offered commercial work for my skinning abilities, first for the Battle Over Europe project, and now the Pacific Fighters Project. Aside from providing some extra cash for a eternally-broke student, it's allowed me to be part of the development team responsible for the evolution of the game. And it's great fun!

I've also made lots of friends from the IL2 community, especially one guy who I'm now in regular contact with. All in all, lots of nice experiences!

http://www.uploadit.org/CanonUK/images.php http://www.uploadit.org/CanonUK/PF_mod.jpg
--IL2Skins.com Archive Moderator--

ElektroFredrik
04-21-2004, 01:27 AM
IL2 has given me insights of WW2 history, tactics, technology,
aviation and hours after hours of enjoyment.

Also, this winter my sister got a kitten to have in her apartment,
but didn't know what to name her. I suggested the name Dora,
(after the 190 D9)and it stuck as a very good name. She (Dora)
is very fast, agile and is at a minimum of three places at any given time.

http://fanart.lionking.org/imgarchive/FanArt/NisseNjursten/profile.jpg
"What I study is sex and squirrels" - Jane Waterman
Flying online as Furvert_Elektro

LuckyBoy1
04-21-2004, 01:31 AM
Well, I was conceived on the west end of Key West Island Florida U.S. and moved to Montana when I was 8 years old. We ran a wheat and cattle operation with WWII fighter bombers that were surplus converted with STOL kits and different engine cams and props for dusting. I learned how to fly at 9 years of age in a 400 H.P. stick controlled plane. My Grandfather flew Jennies for the French Foreign Flying Corps and then for the U.S. in WWI and my Father fought in both North Africa and Battle of the Bulge with Patton commanding a tank. In fact, in my family, every male has served a tour since the Germans came over (Father's side of the family) to fight against the revolutionary fighters (Mother's side of the family) back in the U.S. Revolutionary war. I've always had an appreciation for duty, honor and country. My oldest brother's name is cut into the Vietnam Memorial wall in Washington D.C. (he was a helecopter pilot). Also, flying was a kind of semi-religion in my family since WWI. What I never developed was an appreciation of computers.

I remember sitting in the basement of my Uncle's home in Edina MN, U.S. during Christmas holiday 1974 and trying to play chess with a Russian nuclear scientist over something called the Control Data Corp. intranet. A couple of older kids from down the street wouldn't shut up about their stupid build at home computer. Finally I leaned back and said, "Ok, Waz, what does it do"? He replied, "It calculates interest rates, has a callender, makes a smiley face that changes expressions and you can play Pong on it"! Just then his slick, used car like salesman friend Steve spoke up saying, "We think it will be worth over $500,000 in the next four years"! I responded by saying, "Call me in 20 years when you work the bugs out of it". http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

When I returned to college in the late 1980's I bought a used IBM PC and it did not impress me at all except it made for a pretty fair word processor. I watched the "gaming community" go nuts over this and that version of space munchies and even saw a kid play what was called a flight simulation game in 1997. The way the planes behaved held no charm for me at all. The "cheats" he used were supposed to be an accepted part of game play. The whole idea turned me off. In 2001, I started looking for a new computer that could handle modern Excel and such. I knew I should learn to build my own, but was afraid and in the end, became a Dell Dude! In 2002 I bought a Dell 8200 Series Dimensia desktop computer.

Then a few months later, I was waiting for my daughter to finish shopping at the computer store and was wondering around the isles that had the PC games to kill time. None of the games interested me in the least. By the way, what is the charm for playing the SIMS Family games? I saw Cousin Billy's Combat Flight Simulation 3.0, Janes Attack Squadron and this IL-2 game. I chose the Janes game because it was a known, respected aviation reporting company and growing up, Janes Defense Weekly was a part of my life. Cousin Billy's game came in second. I never considered getting the IL-2 game. I took my new Janes game home and installed it in my Dell PC. I had 256 of RDRAM, 1.7 Ghz Pentium IV processor and a 64 MB nVidia card that was, according to Dell, "It's a good gaming card, beyond anything you'll need". The result of my installation was a grainy, arcade like game would run like a slide show until smoke or AAA or even more than a little gun fire began and then I'd get the blue screen of death and back to desktop. I blamed the problem on the game, not my PC and left the new joystick and game to rot.

A couple more months went by and then I was speaking with a friend who was an IT person for a major spammer. He told me IL-2 FB was the highest rated flight simulation game out there and to try it. I did some internet research and found his idea to be sound and bought the game. I took it home and after installing it, it would not run due to the rts.dll file being empty. A call to UBISoft U.S.A. fixed that and I was not pleased to have to "invade" the program files to fix the game. It started up and ran, but even though it was slow, grainy and a slide show, it at least felt slightly like a real plane with real consequences to your actions. My IT friend who works for the spammer told me I needed more RAM and a better video card. I bought a 9700 Pro video card and only got well... just some improvement. I also bought a 400 watt power supply to power the new card and was not happy at all with the game. I then bought 256 more of RDRAM and finally, the game would run at a decent, but still quite low rate. Later on, I bought a 2.4 Ghz CPU and finally began to see what all the fuss was about with this game.

Along the way and with the help of the volunteers at IL-2 FB technical forum (now called community help) I've learned about how to shut down unneeded crap the XP has running and how to install drivers as well as issues with spyware and virus security. Yes, I now know just barely enough about computers to make the next one a build my own type computer. I'm no longer ignorant to a whole lot of stuff that that made my PC run slower, made me buy a more expensive PC and be less secure at the same time. Getting this game to run well has brought me slowly, kicking and screaming into the modern PC age. The bonus is a game that actually tries to play like a real plane flies while being visually very nice. The developers actually care about cheating issues and try to stop it as best they can. The sound is far from perfect, but by modern game standards, not bad. I played a coop that had TB-3 bombers carrying I-16 fighters under its' wings. To think that someone actually did this in real life gave me whole new respect for the Eastern Front efforts of WWII. The game is great as long as you've got the following...

2.4 Ghz or better CPU

512 or now, you really need a Gig of RAM

128 MB video card that is an 8 pipeline video card.

and you shut down all the unneeded crap and attend to spyware and virus security issues.

I wish UBISoft would be more honest about the minimum needs to run this game at all, much less well. However, I've since seen Cousin Billy's Combat Flight Simulation 3.0 and other "flight sim" games and IL-2 FB beats them all hands down! It eats less system resources while delivering a more realistic and visually stunning game. On top of all this is the exposure I get to people truly from around the world while playing online at HyperLobby. You might think you've had International exposure through the internet. Well, it ain't nothing compared to the exposure you get with this game! Get a modern PC, manage it well and but this game! It has been weel worth the expense and hassle!



This long, rambling post is dedicated to steve v, B16ENK, CrazyIvan, Cappodian and all the others who have tolerated me and helped along the way!

Solutions for internet security & spyware problems... http://www.geocities.com/callingelvis911/s_s.html

Luckyboy = Senior hydraulic landing gear designer for the P-11 & Contributing Editor to Complete Users magazine.

[This message was edited by LuckyBoy1 on Wed April 21 2004 at 12:43 AM.]

RIPelliottsmith
04-21-2004, 01:35 AM
I have used macs since 1986. I was a huge fan of them, and wouldn't touch PCs with a barge pole. I'd bore people rigid on why macs were superior.

Then IL-2 came out and I read the reviews and saw the screenshots and the next day bought a PC.

That's how big a deal this game is!

JarheadEd
04-21-2004, 07:04 AM
IL2-FB makes me late for work, a lot.

http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/v37/JarheadEd/p40.jpg

MOhz
04-21-2004, 10:12 AM
abou 6 months ago i had some money left over and saw a game called il2 sturmovik. i had heard of it before but was rather sceptic about the quality because i had been extremly disapointed by the other ww2 sims that had appeard. so since it was so cheap, i decided to buy it. when i started playing it... i was just stunned. i was thrilled. i nearly exlpoded with excitment at what i saw and experienced. it took me a while to understand the dynamics and i still am learning but from that day on, my life is IL2. the realism and feeling this game gives is just pure satisfaction! this game of course did cause some problems, but the joy and friendships and experience are a thousand times greater!! i live in berlin, germany and would like to meet anyone who lives here too: mohamedjj@hotmail.com. GO IL2! i cant wait for BoB and PF...

Heavy_Weather
04-21-2004, 01:45 PM
this post explains it best http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by QuaziMotto:
Where else can you, sitting in the States, and three more, possibly stretched across the world, sit and in real time be able to fly in formation close enough to count rivets. Then consider that each has a headshot of themselves attached to the pilots shoulders, (as one of my squad mates has done), and you all are using a voice comms such as TeamSpeak to communicate in real time. Then you see a flight of the enemy below you at 2 o'clock and tactics a re discussed before engaging. And while the battle is on, everyone is asking or telling the other of eminent danger on their six or where the enemy is. You fly in pairs, a wingman for each lead. The battle is over. You pinpoint your position, one to the other, then reform the flight and continue your mission, until all is safe and sound, landed at their home airfield. I can tell you, it's real enough for me. At least enough to experience some of what it was like for a WWII pilot. Such, as the thrill of victory. The relief of survivng a dog fight, or even making it home one more time. This game is so immersive, sometimes after a hard fought battle I feel like writing a letter home because I know I might not have that chance tomorrow, after the battle I encountered today. It feels so real that it is unrealistic, in the sense that you know you are playing a game on a computer, so how can this feel so real? You have to experience it to totally get where myself, and all the others that are posting with stories and comments, are coming from. S!

http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/nightschpanker/QuasiPOWsmall.jpg
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"The wise man is often the man who plays dumb."

heywooood
04-21-2004, 07:27 PM
First - congratulations to CanonUk - Lead Skinner for PF ! Your good work means that the aircraft schemes will be of the highest calibre.

My enthusiasm for this flight sim is related to my overwhelming love for the airplanes developed during the period between the years 1930 thru 1946. And only lately - as Bearcat relates - the planes that were heretofore unknown in the Us.
The aircraft and pilots of the Axis and the
Allies (with the exception of Russia) were
well documented in the States but a huge hole existed.
Thanks to Oleg & Co. for opening a huge hangar door on Russian aircraft developement and pilots of that era to the masses that were either un-informed or terribly miss-informed.

Also - there is another wealth of information to be found as a result of Il2 and it comes from the people here in these forums and from the developers and Oleg himself. What a positive thing it is from a humanities point of view, to be able to communicate instantly, with such a diverse and well informed core of friendly, helpful people. Even in disagreement there is mutual respect and a healthy exchange of ideas (as a rule).

I didn't want this post to be so long - but I must say I look forward to the future of this Associations' fine work. And to the fact that the strife and desperate struggles of our
fathers and grandfathers will be remembered in a much more engaging and meaningful way than could have ever been imagined by them.

Thank you Oleg and All.

air_malik
04-21-2004, 09:45 PM
I wasn't much into prop sims but I was curious about this new game that everyone was raving about. Downloaded the demo. Found myself on a runway with rain pelting down on the plane. After crashing a few times trying to take off, I finally managed to get airborne. Looked around for a few minutes and couldn't find anyone to shoot down. That was the end of it for a while and I flew FS2K for a few months until a friend at work suggested we try IL2.

Flying online with a friend, even though I kept getting shot down over and over, was so much fun I found myself playing almost every night. I then discovered this forum and would spent half the day at work reading up on tactics and complaints about something called roll rates posted here.

I quickly realised that I could carry on like this at work for only so long. So I got my boss hooked on it!

Now the three of us fly around together, crashing into each other practising formating flying. At work we can be seen gesturing wildly, recounting the exploits of the night before. Flying exploits that is.

A couple of weeks ago and many computer upgrades later, just when I thought I wasn't going to spend any more money on this sim I came across a thread on this forum about a guy who flies trikes. A few hours of surfing later I found a flight school nearby which offers ultralight flying lessons. Ground school was starting in a couple of days.

I passed the ultralight ground school that weekend and realised that in order to actually fly an ultralight after getting my ultralight pilot license I'd have to own my own plane (no one rents one around here).

A couple of days of convincing the wife and a nice dinner later we'd decided to buy a kit for a plane similar to this one http://www.ul-pilot.com/flightstar/squadron/brad_rose/Aug_28_Pics_009.jpg . Mine will have amphibious floats. I'll post pictures when I start building the plane. My wife's decision was surprisingly quick - she said "if it'll get you away from that damn computer, I'm all for it" That and the fact that it's a two seater.

I didn't realise I'd end up buying a plane when I joined this forum. I'm glad I did.

DONB3397
04-21-2004, 10:40 PM
My heroes have always worn leather helmets and goggles. World War II Fighter pilots always seemed so sure of themselves, skilled, easy going, from another place than the rest of us. I learned later they had the same uncertainties and moments of fear that mortals have. I met a few over the years, and read every "memoir" I could find.

I built a library of air combat books and read some of them more than once. And I learned early to keep this information to myself. It was like an addiction; if you didn't have it, you didn't understand it.

Twenty years after my first flight sim, I picked up IL2, followed by IL2:FB. And, while looking for patches at the Ubi site, stumbled into the forum.

Revelation! These people seemed to have the same passion. Most of them knew the units, aircraft, pilots and history...far better than anyone I'd met elsewhere. And, more important, they were willing to share their information. Some were talented painters and freely offered their created paint schemes with the rest of us. Others built historic and complex missions or campaigns. Still others offered technical data...about the aircraft and the 'rigs' that worked best. What a strange place this was!

Even the developers joined in the debates, made suggestions and requested information. Whoever heard of such a thing?

So now my free time is split between the sim and the forum, which requires a good deal of outside reading to keep up. But this thing hasn't taken over completely. When my granddaughter comes, the computer goes off.

http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/3fe77b7e_1812a/bc/Images/Sig---1.jpg?BCOPJiABHzPYLZQo
"And now I see with eye serene/The very pulse of the machine;
A being breathing thoughtful breath,/A Traveller between life and death."
-- William Wordsworth

[This message was edited by DONB3397 on Thu April 22 2004 at 08:37 PM.]

trumper
04-22-2004, 02:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by air_malik:
I wasn't much into prop sims but I was curious about this new game that everyone was raving about. Downloaded the demo. Found myself on a runway with rain pelting down on the plane. After crashing a few times trying to take off, I finally managed to get airborne. Looked around for a few minutes and couldn't find anyone to shoot down. That was the end of it for a while and I flew FS2K for a few months until a friend at work suggested we try IL2.

Flying online with a friend, even though I kept getting shot down over and over, was so much fun I found myself playing almost every night. I then discovered this forum and would spent half the day at work reading up on tactics and complaints about something called roll rates posted here.

I quickly realised that I could carry on like this at work for only so long. So I got my boss hooked on it!

Now the three of us fly around together, crashing into each other practising formating flying. At work we can be seen gesturing wildly, recounting the exploits of the night before. Flying exploits that is.

A couple of weeks ago and many computer upgrades later, just when I thought I wasn't going to spend any more money on this sim I came across a thread on this forum about a guy who flies trikes. A few hours of surfing later I found a flight school nearby which offers ultralight flying lessons. Ground school was starting in a couple of days.

I passed the ultralight ground school that weekend and realised that in order to actually fly an ultralight after getting my ultralight pilot license I'd have to own my own plane (no one rents one around here).

A couple of days of convincing the wife and a nice dinner later we'd decided to buy a kit for a plane similar to this one http://www.ul-pilot.com/flightstar/squadron/brad_rose/Aug_28_Pics_009.jpg . Mine will have amphibious floats. I'll post pictures when I start building the plane. My wife's decision was surprisingly quick - she said "if it'll get you away from that damn computer, I'm all for it" That and the fact that it's a two seater.

I didn't realise I'd end up buying a plane when I joined this forum. I'm glad I did.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


OK ,where is the gunsight and the guns then lol http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifohhh hope it's flight modelling is correct

Stalfos_01
04-22-2004, 07:43 AM
I don't know what that "dell dude" guy is on about, I have an athlon 1.2 with old school sdram, 384MB ram Geforce ti4200 and I am able to play FB at a good (over 30fps) framerate in 1024*768*16 and a reasonable rate (20-30fps) in 32bit colour.

Bite my shiny metal ****

Uber_Numpty
04-22-2004, 08:56 AM
Hi, This is my first post on this (or any forum...) but I have been following this one for some time and I have found it to be friendly, informative and at times really funny.

IL2 Sturmovik/FB/AEP is a great sim, without doubt the best.

Like others have already mentioned it has an imersive quality that cannot be desrcibed in words...the number of times I've found myself getting really excited about some mission or dogfight I've just survived (or not) and babbling on about what when and why and then look at the expressions of the people I'm talking to and realize that they have nae a scooby...

It's maybe abit like being a real fighter pilot at the time and finding that the only people you can properly relate your story to are people that have gone through the same things...

Mad...

I have my set up in me garden shed, so at least I still get out the house! (when the wind blows I get real turbulance to!) Entering it is like stepping into another world. I use an X45, CHpro Pedals and TrackIR2.(I am looking into building one of those "Joy rider" motion simulators so I can make myself sick!) I rarely go out boozing now so any money being spent on hardware etc to feed this habbit can eventualy be justifed...My partner tries to be interested out of politeness or something and I have a son who's four (he's around here somewhere)...

This sim has had quite a profound affect on me, it has also provided me with hours and hours and hours of fun and entertainment. I have also found out loads of things about aircraft, flying, combat tactics, engine management, history... the list goes on...

Oleg and Co. have done a superb job and I hope that their work goes from strength to strength.

Thanks...

sorry for babbling on maybe I've been bottling things up....

HayateKid
04-22-2004, 11:13 AM
I found that after my wife and I have sex, she doesn't mind me playing IL2. Now I have sex with my wife almost everyday. Thanks to IL2 for improving our sex life.

"First learn stand, then learn fly. Nature rule, Daniel San, not mine." - Mr. Miyagi

LuckyBoy1
04-22-2004, 12:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stalfos_01:
I don't know what that "dell dude" guy is on about, I have an athlon 1.2 with old school sdram, 384MB ram Geforce ti4200 and I am able to play FB at a good (over 30fps) framerate in 1024*768*16 and a reasonable rate (20-30fps) in 32bit colour.

Bite my shiny metal ****<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Consider it bit StalDude, your "war story" about performance is far from typical and may even represent, well, a very bad lie! Have a nice day.

Solutions for internet security & spyware problems... http://www.geocities.com/callingelvis911/s_s.html

Luckyboy = Senior hydraulic landing gear designer for the P-11 & Contributing Editor to Complete Users magazine.

Vagabond310th
04-22-2004, 06:50 PM
I guess I amy as well throw my hat in the ring with the rest on how IL2 changed my life.

I am greatful to have played this game, in doing so liek many others I managed to meet friends, people I would have otherwise never met. I am canadian, and the people I met for the most part (those in my squad) are from the US, and through comm's we all "BS" abou t this and that, now and again flag waving starts up , and well I think that through this process we managed to dispell soem of the cross border ignorance's each side has for the other.
ohter things that have changed as a direct result, I decided to go for my pilots licence, I always hummed and hawed abou tthat the cost being the intimidator, but chatting with those who have flown, and seeing how much fun a Sim can be gave me the nudge I needed.

I have also learned as a direct result how to set up the server, went on to explore this further settign up an apachie server, got the dust off my photoshop cd's. And much more, also gained an intrest in WW2 aviation, my grandfather was in the war but he was from P.E.I. Canada, adn was and infrantry man.

I guess what I gained most from this community was a sence that the web had a none chat room orientated community srtonger thatn that of game spy or Bf1942. That ther is alot to programming and it is very intresting, that people will do anything to get their hands on Beta products, and that once leaked you can almost be certin it will reach hard drives faster than shelves, lol.

I have made friends in the artistic side of this more than anything else *** well gained respect for many I will never meet.

S!~
have a great tiem hope your journal dose what you want it to, I am sure this has exceeded the dreams of Oleg and his team.

http://webpages.charter.net/310thcommand/380thBG/310th%20Pics/Pic%203.gif

jacko40
04-23-2004, 01:11 AM
Dying a thousand virtual deaths. Stepping outside to have smoke, stretch your legs or take a walk with the dog and thinking about your last sortie during the last game you played. Trying to make sense out of the "split s", "hammer head", "immelmann" or a "hi and lo Yo yo". When you can use them and why you used them when you shouldn't have. Sitting in front of your monitor, mouth wide open, thinking to yourself, "now how the devil did he do that?"

Then after about three or four months of being the whipping boy you turn it all around. You find yourself "the" aircraft for you. You start hitting "enemy" aircraft. Then you start scoring kills. Players start to sit up and notice. You earn respect. You're feared. You're an ACE.

THAT is what everyone wants to be. An ACE.

Well, then you notice it's just not game. It becomes your hobby. You invest a little more money in your PC. Buy a new graphic card and brag about your frame rates to your on-line friends. ROFL. We all know the story.

Then your wife/girlfriend wants to start spending more "quality time" with you! ( that's deadly for on-line gamers) You cut back your playing time. Take the wife out to dinner. But somewhere between the "he saids,she saids" comes that BF109 or perhaps that pesky La7 to mind.

It's that little voice in the back of your head that says " it's time to fly". That is what bonds all of us. The need to fly. To see our on-line friends. To "shoot down" our on-line enemies. To have fun.

and all of that without one "I".


~S! M8s shoot me down or die trying..

Beagle

JV44_Eisel
04-23-2004, 01:12 AM
IL2 recreates the WW2 sim with such realism it affected my Mother who lived through WW2 at a young age. Residing in the small town of Waldsee, just outside Mannheim, she frequently would have to seek shelter in her school's cellar from the many raids of B17s and B24s. She told me, "the bombs looked like loaves of bread falling from the sky!". Luckily they were targeting a large factory in Mannheim. Back to the present, i was visiting my Mother and decided to fire up IL2. I was flying the ME-262 mission against incoming heavy bombers, my Mother came into the room and says to me, "That's it! That's exactly what we heard almost every day over our heads, that was scary, let me tell you!" I've never had a reaction like that from a simulator before! If you want it any more real than this, you'll need a holodeck!

[This message was edited by JV44_Eisel on Fri April 23 2004 at 01:12 AM.]

nickdanger3
04-23-2004, 08:25 PM
A couple of weeks ago I joined an online dogfight server and actually shot down some celebrities - people whose nicknames that I recognized from their posts in the IL-2 forums.

They were obviously seriously good (virtual) pilots and they were good "losers" (not the best term since they could get right back in an airplane and then try to shoot me down). Salutes both ways - most civilized.

I managed to be leading the game in score - don't usually care about that but it was such a rarity that I took note.

The whole next day, I was literally walking on a cloud. Such a feeling of accomplishment and community. After months (months!) of practice, I was the top dog if only for just a little while. It just could not have happened offline against a computer - needed that human element.

Cobra427so
04-24-2004, 02:10 PM
I've always loved flight - real or in simulation. My first computer was a 286 with one whole meg of ram... I bought it for one thing: fly Red Baron. As the sims developed and improved, I devoured them and my computer skills developed right along with them. Had you told me, that first purchase of my computer would lead me to where I'm at today, I would never have believed you. As a designer/artist and now magazine publisher, my life and work revolve around my computer. I live in Florida and attend airshows regularly to feed my love of flying. I have even flown hands-on, as I involved myself in the local flight community. With my computer simulator experience, it turns out I'm a rather good pilot and hope to eventually get my licence. The pinnacle of my real flight experience was about 3 years ago at the annual Sun N Fun Fly-In in Lakeland Florida where alot of warbirds show up. I interviewed a P51 pilot and his wife, proud owners of a blue-nosed P51-D (or T?) two-seater named Crazy Horse. If a man could marry a plane, for me, the P51 would be the one... I've always had a tremendous affinity for it, the way it looks, the sound of the Merlin. The sound alone puts a lump in my throat... the way it pops at idle or sings at speed, it feels remarkably familiar. After my interview, I finagled (read begged) a ride during the warbird flybys. When we went up, I felt totally at ease and the pilot let me take the controls. It bought tears to my eyes, the way it felt, the sound, it was simply amazing how at home I felt. And then there is the smell... someone should bottle it, a combination of metal, leather, fuel, lubricants and electronics - all intermingled, almost palatable. I didn't want to come down, not ever. That was the shortest 45 minutes I've ever experienced, but I will never forget them. For it's day, EAW did a pretty good job as a flight sim... but IL-2 is it. Without the vibration, the g-force and the smell, (oh yes, you need the smell) I don't know how they can make it any closer. When I fly IL-2, I can still feel it, it helps me remember, I can re-live it. For that, I have to salute Oleg and his crew for the results their efforts have produced. I don't nit pick about the DMs or the little stuff... who cares, look what they have created and continue to support... it's simply a work of art. And hell, every time I fly the IL-2 P51, I'm back in that blue-nosed Crazy Horse.

Thanks Oleg,

361st_Cobra427

ptegomerpyle
04-24-2004, 03:10 PM
il2 gives me nitemares about my former life as a russian aviatrix, damn i was hot

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tewart
04-24-2004, 07:00 PM
I joined Stab/JG51 about 8 months ago. The intent was to build and maintain a game server for this German Fighter Squadron and use the data to help me with my school work. This server was to be used primarily to fly weekly missions (Operation Typhoon) and nightly practice ("goof off") sessions.

My first term paper I got an A. It described my new freinds as a typical German Fighter Squadron full on drunkin colorful pilots. The paper was published in the college newspaper to which most thought it was a joke. When the paper was read aloud in class by my professor, just about everyone was rolling in the isles.

I have made many new friends along the way since my inception into IL2. I truly want to thank all those responsible for creating such a fun game. A day does not go by where I am not involved with my Squadron. Heck my wife is now jealous!

Oberfeldwebel Frieherr von Richter
Gruppe Technischer Offizier
Stab/JG51
http://www.stabgeschwader51.com

hendar101
04-25-2004, 05:41 AM
Only just got into IL2, but it is already taking over. Now more than ever I realise that a modem just isn't good enough..
...I just wish I had more time to play, and the moment I only get to fly one or two missions a week and my wife seems to think that an hour on the PC is me "been playing that stupid thing for ages!"

Anyone else know how to convince a better half that games are not just for kids, but are in fact a legitimate hobby?? PLEASE!?

ptegomerpyle
04-25-2004, 06:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hendar101:
Only just got into IL2, but it is already taking over. Now more than ever I realise that a modem just isn't good enough..
...I just wish I had more time to play, and the moment I only get to fly one or two missions a week and my wife seems to think that an hour on the PC is me "been playing that stupid thing for ages!"

Anyone else know how to convince a better half that games are not just for kids, but are in fact a legitimate hobby?? PLEASE!?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Divorce her and send her too pyles err "re education camp"

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GeneralTaskeen
04-25-2004, 06:57 PM
Well, when I was younger I didn't know much about WWII, but I immediately took interest in aviation of WWII.

I later started playing a few games about the huge conflict, but I wanted to fly. I eventually found www.il2sturmovik.com (http://www.il2sturmovik.com) (this was when IL-2:FB was currently out) and read up on the game which greatly influenced me to buy it.

I was then greeted by one of the best WWII flight sims of all time. The eastern front was definitely a new experience for me. To this day, I haven't even completed a german fighter campaign due to the extremely long and fun campaigns, which really makes you feel like you were really there. At first when I started, I really didn't pay much attention to my wing mates, but quickly learned to value their lives. I quickly moved up the ranks as leader of my squadron and I haven't lost a pilot in over a "year" in campaign terms.

The stalingrad campaign comes to mind as being the most memorable. Being against superior numbers of enemies, with a depleted and tired air squadron, but we somehow managed to pull through without 1 loss.

This game has provided some of the most intense flight combat I have ever experienced. I can't wait to buy future games from this series.

http://counterattack.theasylum.us/images/luke/bf109taskeen.jpg

CountFloyd__
04-27-2004, 02:33 AM
I remember the time I got my first online kill, when playing IL-2.
I was so excited I ran up the hill to my neighbors farm, to tell my Mary all about it. She became excited too, and soon we were lost in the throes of passion.
Then Argyle burst into the barn. "What's going on here?", he shouted.
"Well", I wheezed, "there's a new game afoot!"
Just then, Mary turned and kissed me full on the lips.
Argyle looked about slyly and announced, "You know, a good goat'll do that. A goat that's worth a full crown!"
Well, I was in a compromising position, but I'm no fool. "I'll not give you more than half a crown and a basket of fish." I told him, with as much indignation as I could muster.
"Done." he said. "Now take your new goat and stay out of my barn."

I couldn't believe it. Because of IL-2 online, I now had the best goat in the county, one worth more than a full crown!

Since then, Argyle has gotten another fine young goat and I must say she's quite a spitfire!

Anyhow, how much will I make if the editor of this magazine publishes my story?
Also, if any strapping young lads are looking for a good goat, I'll let mine go for a crown and a copy of AEP. Her name is Mary and I'll not take a penny less!

the_pool_guy
04-27-2004, 10:41 AM
My wife divorced me 'cos I played IL2 way too much....

Serves me right. I still play - more so now.

Forgotten Battles changed my life...

hendar101
04-27-2004, 11:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by the_pool_guy:
My wife divorced me 'cos I played IL2 way too much....

Serves me right. I still play - more so now.

Forgotten Battles changed my life...

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ouch...hope I never let it get to that...

There is no enemy. Anywhere.

GeneralTaskeen
04-27-2004, 08:33 PM
I don't think he resents it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://counterattack.theasylum.us/images/luke/bf109taskeen.jpg

the_pool_guy
04-28-2004, 05:04 AM
I resent it in the sense that it was an excuse whilst she was having her jollies with the ginger-haired loser from Blockbusters. Because of her betrayal, I lost my home, marriage and little three year-old daughter. And the CSA have the cheek to call for money whilst the wife blocks all contact to our daughter. I'll fight that like I fight in my Me-110.

But I have spare money now so I treated myself to BOE. Bless...

Forgotten Battles changed my life...

trumper
04-28-2004, 05:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by the_pool_guy:
I resent it in the sense that it was an excuse whilst she was having her jollies with the ginger-haired loser from Blockbusters. Because of her betrayal, I lost my home, marriage and little three year-old daughter. And the CSA have the cheek to call for money whilst the wife blocks all contact to our daughter. I'll fight that like I fight in my Me-110.

Good luck to you,i know 2 other Dads going through the same thing ,have you tried Families need Fathers?,sorry to hi jack the topic of this thread but this is one of the things in life that is more important than F/B.

But I have spare money now so I treated myself to BOE. Bless...

Forgotten Battles changed my life...

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good luck to you,i know 2 other Dads going through the same thing ,have you tried Families need Fathers group?,sorry to hi-jack the topic of this thread but this is one of the things in life that is more important than F/B.
I wish you all the best for you and your Daughter http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

the_pool_guy
04-28-2004, 05:49 AM
Thank you Trumper, that is very kind of you. I obviously agree that the little one is more important, but I went with the thread on how FB changed our lives. I have been playing flighting flight sims since I had the Intellivision's B-17 Bomber and being blown to bits when I have Aces over Europe on my 486 PC. So when I got my hands on IL2 and FB, I have become involved with the ultimate flight sim (sorry, Microsoft, but CFS3 doesn't hold a candle next to Oleg) and community that is there for you and your interests. To that part, Oleg and team have enriched my hobby and I am grateful for that.

Jay

Forgotten Battles changed my life...

ptegomerpyle
04-28-2004, 06:17 AM
My first decent flight sim was on the atari ste, flight of the intruder.

But yeah this sim is something else, I looked forward to getting my own home pc just for sims and wasnt dissapointed when I got the mighty 8th, then il2, then FB.

And that sucks mate, your wife ran off with someone ginger!

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the_pool_guy
04-28-2004, 06:25 AM
Nah mate, a ginger-haired looser who works in Blockbusters. He can only work three days a week; nice one. But she didn't run off; I had to leave my own home to have him come in. Of course, I stopped paying the mortage so that she now suffers on a mild salary. Doubt he could pay for the year's gas! ;-)

But other games really did it for me. Red Baron 2 was great when patched. I still have fond memories of that and I am looking for the new WW1 title next year. But FB2 is the business. It looks the part. It plays the part and its damage engine is fantastic. Each time I play a mission, I see something new. We are blessed.

Forgotten Battles changed my life...

ptegomerpyle
04-28-2004, 06:43 AM
Asoon as I noticed the damaged engine in il2 I started sending all my mates screenshots of holes in wings etc http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Then trying too line up the external shots so you get buildings and things, other planes etc visible thru the damage holes.

Persuaded lots of them to purchase the game that way.

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WUAF_GenSwat
04-28-2004, 10:01 AM
Well, A touch of WW2 at its best,
I have been Flying sims since days of cfs2 and no game has come close to the reality of the airbattles of World War 2 then IL2. Every Time, I take to the sky forming up with a wingman or Flying formation with an entire squadron I get a feeling of what it must of been like to fight in the skys of WW2. Though I cant reconize the smell of the sweat filled cockpits nor the fear
of not returning home from a sortie. I can paint a picture somewhat of it in my mind.
What a pilot had to do while flying high over enemy lines. looking left,right up and down, banking, rolling, climbing an diving, in a constant mindset of the situations to come.

Thank You Oleg for bringing this game and making it possible to bring the world alot closer to one another...Never thought I would have friends from Canada,Germany,France, UK, Brazil,Spain Russia,Korea and even China!!!

gombal40
04-28-2004, 02:26 PM
Short story
Been in books about ww2 since i was a kid (40 now)
Have every flight sim from commodore to pc.
Got a version of il2 Ohh and the series).
Knew about russian planes a bit but not a lot.
Got to virtual flying them. No arcade, as real as the game permits.
Got shot a lot.(arcade is difficult to forget)
Now i'm reading all i can about tactics.
Getting better,
Tell me of a game then, that can better you, reading about real pilots telling real stuff

Sometimes i fly with the book open that helps me survive.

Tell me of another game that can do that

.. i'm game

WARHorse82
04-30-2004, 09:35 AM
Shortly after joining this forum and getting the game,I found out alot about how deeply rooted my family history is rooted in the events of WWII.I found out that several of my uncles and grandpa's and even an aunt all flew fighter planes in WWII.Two of my uncles actually flew together on the eastern front!Because of this game I've found out alot about my family history and as result have bnded more closely with them. Atleast one family member has flown on each front,from the Pacific Front to the Russian front.Who woulda thought a game could bring a family closer together?

triggerhappyfin
04-30-2004, 01:58 PM
Everybody in my environment thinks i´m a crazy old man sitting by his putor with headset on, wavin his head of and on with a lamp attached to it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

...every night!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif ...

Wife invites her relatives to look at me playin http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif...laughin at me, they are... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

She eaven points at me to grandchildren as a warning.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

....but still i´m enjoying this game(been along since birth of IL-2 series).
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif

So far all good...But....
http://www.raven-armoury.co.uk/skullery/gifs/mini/handsbyside.jpg

as you all can see..waiting for them patches is not healthy at all http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/1072.gif

Lt.Davis
05-10-2004, 12:02 AM
I started my vitual flight experience through CFS2, kind of bid late if compare to most of the simmer here. And it got me crazy about WW2 prop plane. And because of this i'll buy any sim that related to ww2 prop plane, that's why i bought my IL2 without seeing it's preview. I just bought it because of my hunger of more ww2 flight sim.

I still remember after i install it, and start flying it. You guys should know, when you 1st started to play IL2, you'll just crash and crash and crash. So this make me total regret buying it. So i put it a side and continue my CFS2.

After a month, i try to flying it again. And finally I did make it take off, and another troble come to my mind. "How to land?" and again i keep trying to land my 109 (i started with 109, just because of the look of the plane)
of cause with thousand of crash landing, explore etc. It take me a week to finally land my 1st perfect landing.

So, what's next? of cause trobles keep coming, e.g air combat, flying skill, how to do a hammer head, high yoyo, barrel roll, TnB, BnZ etc.


PS: As a Asian, most of us not so understand ww2 stories in Europe, western front etc. But we did know about the Japanese invasion during WW2. But IL2 teach me a lot.

"Biar berputih tulang, jangan berputih mata"
Translated:
"Let the whites of your bones, but do not show the whites of your eyes"

IronIan
05-10-2004, 01:04 PM
Well, having read through this whole thread I have to add my story too . . . . .

A Leo Scot living in London, I was born in 1946 to British Military parents, am now on my 7th PC and they were preceded by two Amigas (1000 and 2000) and a BBC B (few here will even know what that once was!) My BBC B had every concievable bell & whistle and when I took it to computer shows for upgrades was a thing of wonder to the techies on the stands. I even had one of the very first ever (Viglen) mice fitted, complete with crude GUI software way back in late 1978.

I have been a compulsive net user ever since it became publically accessible. I adore everything to do with aviation and spaceflight and also am a frustrated pilot. My eyesight was too poor for the RAF entry as a young man and I have sadly never been able to afford private flying lessons or a microlight. I was in the Air Cadets, flew a chipmunk for 10 mins over Salisbury and later managed to do 13 skydives getting up to 8 seconds delay on the old Tu and C9 military chutes.

I have owned every flight sim I could get my hands on since my very first computer. In the first one I had on the BBC B the aircraft (a spitfire) was only a white "wire frame" outline on a black screen and the runway was just two converging parallel white lines approaching a horizontal white line horizon! There were crude flight control dials along the bottom edge of the screen and the imagination was required to really work overtime. My first joystick was like a tiny stainless steel matchstick stuck in a plastic box!

Fast forward 20 years during which I successively bought all the MS civilian flight sims but found them boring and too "geeky" for me. (Until ACOF now which is amazing!)

The first sims I can remember starting to be impressed by were CFS1, EAW, Red Baron and CFS2. I always thought that EAW looked like those watercolours of the BAttle of Briatin that always used to decorate the squadrom messes of old WW2 fighter stations. I started playing and enjoying CFS2 on The Zone. Then B-17 The Mighty Eighth came out and I was totally hooked at last. A great sim and far ahead of its time. If they had been able to manage shared crewing online (the way Oleg has) they would have had a cult hit, but in those days the average user would never have had the bandwidth or connection speed anyway. I confess that I am dying for Oleg to produce a multi-crew B-17 and to fly that in co-ops online with my buddies!

When IL2 Sturmovik arrived it was like the dawn of REAL combat flight simulation at long last.

Having managed a few precious minutes real flying time over the years in several different aircraft and even a helicopter, I found IL2 very like real flying and did fairly well as a YAK 3 driver, probably because it's the easiest plane in IL2 to fly, although I am (still) certainly no ace. After a few months I began watching a staggeringly good Fw190 pilot who called himself "Von_Ron". I found the Fw190 tricky to fly and kept stalling at low altitude because I was flying it like a YAK which it isn't. So we got into text chat and after flying with him and against him for a while and learning a lot, he invited me to join his newly formed squadron The Butcher Bird Brotherhood (http://il2.wunderlin.net/) I was only the 4th to join and as it was "by invitation only" there are still only 12 members. They all quickly became friends even though I was perhaps the least talented of them all and certainly the oldest. (I still fly with them as BBB_Lionman) I made close friends in Germany, Switzerland, Holland, Sweden, Finland, Italy and the UK. Once I got into using the UbiCom lobby I quickly built up well over 50 buddies in my friends list, picking only those pilots whom I either couldn't beat or who were top dogfighters. From this list I made even more new friends from the USA, Canada, Russia, France, Italy, Singapore, Bulgaria, Japan and China.

Around this time I was also searching for a Squadron to join to fly my favourite kind of combat WW1 biplanes and after looking at the huge range of squadrons that still fly the much patched latest versions of that amazing sim I joined The Royal Air Corps (http://www.citigraph.com/rac/) and fly with them as RAC_Lionman_EF. THe EF stands for "Euro Flight" as they are one of the most respected old RB3D squadrons and have members all over the world. I made a small circle of really good friends in the UK through this sim and went with them on outings to air displays and WW2 aircraft museums. By now I had a social circle of some 45 good friends online with whom I regularly corresponded by email sharing lots of screenshots and personal pictures. (I am also a semi-professional photographer and writer.)

Meanwhile I had retired from my former career as a deep sea diver in the North Sea and was (sadly) spending a lot of time unemployed between various management jobs. But this gave me more time for more gaming and I so got heavily into first person shooters too and played a lot of Ghost Recon, Medal of Honour and in the last year Call of Duty being invited to join the 12th SS (http://www.freewebs.com/12sseuro/) a CoD clan about 6 months ago. Through Infantry Combat gaming online I made more close friends in North Carolina, Kansas City, Texas, Boston and the UK. By this time many of my gaming buddies had webcams and so we would chat face to face too.

About 5 years ago by sheer chance online I met an American lady with whom I fell in love and after several reciprocal visits to each other's countries, married her in June last year. Our first "date" was as avatars dancing to the same rock and roll in a cyber space night club in the virtual world Worlds (http://www.worlds.net/) I am deeply blessed as she is as into the internet, gaming and computing as much as I am our gaming webpage. (http://www.ianmunro.homechoice.co.uk/) In real life she used to be a volunteer fire-fighter and now works in a security job and carries a gun. She loves MoH and CoD, is a mean sniper and her gaming tag is TurboBunny. In our home in the US we have broadband and will by next year have a two PC LAN with FF sticks, wheels, head tracking and eDimension 3D glasses. Paradise for my wife and I would be owning our own Holodeck! I am still living in London while we negotiate the forest of paperwork and logistics involved in me joining her but we meet daily and spend more time together online via webcam and voice than many couples who live together.

But back to the thread. IL2 and the joy in finally flying a sim that was so close to the real thing that I would often take up a plane just to watch the sunsets over the snows of Russia, got me seriously into online flying and through that I began to make more and more friends online. Because flight sims of the calibre of IL2 and IL2FB AEP impose quite a steep learning curve, the idiots, egotists and sad losers who one can find in so many gaming realms soon lose interest and consequently there is a community of bright, courteous, friendly, well-educated, patient and extremely skilful people of both sexes and every nationality.

I became so impressed by IL2 that I went to the International Computer flight Simulator Exhibition in Birmingham in 2002 and met and interveiwed Oleg himself for my BBB squadron. There is a reasonably decent portrait of him that I took along with that interview on our BBB (URL above) website for anyone who's interested.

Oleg's vision, obsessional perfectionism, anal attention to detail, respect for history and passion for aviation has created not just one but a whole family of combat flight simulators whose quality and realism put them in a league of their own. Maddox games may have started out as a small outfit but they have already totally eclipsed the mighty Microsoft in the combat flight simulator stakes and go from strength to strength. Oleg's simulators are as high in quality, accuracy of flight models and immersive realism as those used by the RAF to train pilots only a few years ago. He is an inspirational figure in the simulator world who has changed hundreds of thousands of lives socially and along the way has become a legend.

I am counting the days now until the Pacific Fighters and Battle of Britain expansions come out. I only pray that he will one day turn his team's vast talent to producing an equally definitive WW1 simulator as dogfighting in biplanes is my favourite of all forms of ariel combat.

Flying is an utterly addictive and totally satisfying pastime. For those of us who cannot afford the real thing Oleg has unlocked a world of life-long delights.

"The battlefield may be virtual but the experience is always real."

JohanBurg
05-12-2004, 01:06 PM
well hows this for a story,

i've love airplanes since i was 5( started withmodel kits, doing them ever since), got absolutly adicted to il2 about 2 years ago, and almost right away i decided i want to fly real planes( tryed some MS sims- no room for comparison), flew my first real airplane last sunday, just a c 150, and now i'm enrolling in ground school on my way to a private license, and after that who knows.......
so in short, I'm now studying to become a pilot because( or partialy because) of this game.
my heart+mad respects go out to all those involved in the creation of the game and ofcourse to this whole comunity that we all share right here....... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

T_O_A_D
05-13-2004, 02:43 PM
Well Nice stories Guys. Funny I hadn't noticed this thread till today. Stuffed uptop hidden in all those stickys.

I remember back in 77 or so one of my friends in school told me about the computer lab. It was so cool he said, so I went down there one after noon to watch him place a 5 in square black envelope in this thing he called a flppy drive and open up some text game called Dantes Inferno. We type this in and that in. Oh what great fun he said. I walked out thinking This is a joke and it will go no where. (Jokes on me) Should of got invloved back then. So about 1998 My kids are in school my Mom inlaw says they need a computer. OK So I look up a Techno geek and spec out a machine for her to buy my kids. (sneaky me made it top of theline at the time.
Asus Mobo It was the first AGP mobo ever cant recall model right now. Still have it out in the attic though. Only quit using it to upgrade more.
Pentium 233 cpu
128 pc133 ram
and a 4 gig hard drive that everyone said I'd never fill http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif
Well I had that going and wanted a game. I had no clue what was out there. Another frined had me over for a meal and showed me CFS1 I played through the entire campaign that night. He said I should get it, I'm a natural. So I did and then found out it had multy player stuff. I ended up learning how to do that and showed him how.

Now then I found out about CFS2 had to get it ya know then IL2 Demo. (ouch machine upgrade asap)
Well the cheap SOB that I am I learned right away how to repair my machine and maintain it with the first one. With help form the Internet and local friends.

Now I build game machines for anyone who ask. Here localy. Still learning the OS tricks but As a mechanic at heart I like the Hardware tweaking more.

After getting a machine that would run IL2 some of my friends around here wanted a squad. (This was wwhen I found out I was no natural) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif I had no clue and still don't on many aspects of it. So I found a couple of CFS1 squads to get an idea and went and started a IL2 one. Some of my old CFS1 squadies have came over to Our squad once they upgraded to run it.

My biggest thing out of all this is right here though. I spend more time in this forum than anywhere. I have only 2 close friends from here that we coraspond privately or fly together as much as possible. But I still enjoy the rest of you when I can, or you give the time of day. Some Of ya, I have went out of my way to corner and befriend but I guess it tough to get your attention at times.

Thanks goes out to Oleg and crew for makeing a sim of a life long dream. I have always since a young boy dreamed of WW2 type of aircraft. If I was to ever be sent back in time to fight and had a choice it would be obvious where I would go. How long I'd last well who knows.

It still blows me away how small this has made our world. I just wish everyone had IL2 or some other online fun activity maybbey in the real world we would get along a bit better.

Have you checked your Private Topics recently? (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=ugtpc&s=400102)
131st_Toad's Squad link (http://www.geocities.com/vfw_131st/)
My TrackIR fix, Read the whole thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p=1)
2.11 drivers (http://home.mchsi.com/~131st-vfw/NaturalPoint_trackIR_2_11.exe)
http://home.mchsi.com/~131st_vfw/T_O_A_D.jpg

sniper-690
05-19-2004, 03:39 PM
They used to have a great Bar in here, in teh olden days. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/caroline1/etsigscot[1].gif

LuckyNed
05-19-2004, 06:27 PM
S! Too funny! I'm the man on the outside looking in (Never flew FB) but the stories made me harken back to my RedBaron days. I gained 30 lbs flying that one and I still feel like the pic of the skeleton on the stool! (WTG pic poster) I'm gearing up for the another 30 lbs and praying that FB online will measure up to RedBaron3D!