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JorBR
06-11-2004, 02:29 PM
A reminder of the stupidity of war.

From The Guardian
"Sixty years after D-Day, an unknown soldier will be laid to rest at the principal German war cemetery at La Cambe, west of Bayeux. He is thought to have been a Luftwaffe pilot shot down during the Battle of Normandy in June 1944. His remains were discovered last week in the village of Moyaux, amid the wreckage a Focke-Wulf plane, along with a burnt map, a survival knife and remnants of an unopened parachute.

He will become the 21,140th burial in the bleak but dignified cemetery, one more reminder of the unique futility of death without the solace of a just cause. A sign at the entrance notes: 'It is a graveyard for soldiers not all of whom had chosen either the cause or the fight.'

Each of the cemetery's 3,000 unidentified dead - often marked by a simple 'Ein Deutscher Soldat' carved in black granite - had flowers placed beside them at a discreet ceremony last week.

Young men of the modern German army dug a grave on Friday for the newly discovered airman, watched by curious schoolchildren, tourists and veterans. Among them was a visiting party of 50 Germans who fought in the Second World War."

The entire issue here
http://www.guardian.co.uk/secondworldwar/story/0,14058,1232592,00.html

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JorBR
06-11-2004, 02:29 PM
A reminder of the stupidity of war.

From The Guardian
"Sixty years after D-Day, an unknown soldier will be laid to rest at the principal German war cemetery at La Cambe, west of Bayeux. He is thought to have been a Luftwaffe pilot shot down during the Battle of Normandy in June 1944. His remains were discovered last week in the village of Moyaux, amid the wreckage a Focke-Wulf plane, along with a burnt map, a survival knife and remnants of an unopened parachute.

He will become the 21,140th burial in the bleak but dignified cemetery, one more reminder of the unique futility of death without the solace of a just cause. A sign at the entrance notes: 'It is a graveyard for soldiers not all of whom had chosen either the cause or the fight.'

Each of the cemetery's 3,000 unidentified dead - often marked by a simple 'Ein Deutscher Soldat' carved in black granite - had flowers placed beside them at a discreet ceremony last week.

Young men of the modern German army dug a grave on Friday for the newly discovered airman, watched by curious schoolchildren, tourists and veterans. Among them was a visiting party of 50 Germans who fought in the Second World War."

The entire issue here
http://www.guardian.co.uk/secondworldwar/story/0,14058,1232592,00.html

"Never wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty but the pig enjoys it!"

georgeo76
06-11-2004, 03:02 PM
War is not stupid; it's insane.

1.JaVA_Razer
06-11-2004, 03:26 PM
indeed it is.

Why people still do,it I have no idea.
the outcome is predifined yet they resist it...

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boxmike
06-11-2004, 03:30 PM
While found, get 'em a decent mark under which to rest. They deserve it. And they will be seen long long time there to remind of futility of war.
And that they existed and were very real and very breathing people who had their families and friends and loves.

Dem4n
06-11-2004, 03:59 PM
They do and did, but whats there to be done if they can't be identified? Check for dental records?? from 1944?!? Be realistic. Even the children coped with it by now. The bleakness reminds us of the sensless pile of ****e war is.

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Zeus-cat
06-11-2004, 05:33 PM
I have a few pictures I took at this cemetary when my wife and I visited France five years ago. I will scan them and put them up on Yahoo if people are interested. I also have some photos of Ponte du Hoc (spelling?) and other sites aroun Normandy.

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Gibbage1
06-11-2004, 07:17 PM
Without wars, we would not have these cool games like IL2 and Bf 1942. So thats one good side of war. But the rest sucks.

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Chuck_Older
06-11-2004, 07:43 PM
Long time coming to rest with his fallen comrades. Reminds me of the movie "A guy named Joe"

War is a principle Human endeavour. We are not nice animals, but knowing that isn't going to stop our disputes. War is the last act of diplomacy, and many people in every war felt they were doing the right thing, no matter what the circumstances. I can understand the motivations, but not the experience, having never served my Country by being in the military or having been in a war. I personally wouldn't suppose to comment on it's futility because I am not qualified to say what is right or wrong for an entire Nation.

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Bearcat99
06-11-2004, 07:55 PM
"Among them was Herbert Fischback, 78, who on D-Day was a gunner stationed at Gran Camp overlooking Utah and Omaha beaches. He walked steadily gazing left and right at the rows of dark crosses mostly marking teenagers who were too young to vote when Hitler came to power.

'They are his victims too,' he said, a tremor of anger in his voice. 'A few may have volunteered, I do not know, but most of them are victims. They would like to have been at home. I told the French people I got to know I would rather go to my mother at home, and they did understand that.

'The British and Germans veterans have forgiven. Unfortunately we had a dictator who organised everything against the wills of most. I met a lot of British people when I was there for five years. They became friends after two or three whiskies in the evening in the pub. Very often we drank the next year in.'"

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