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Istreliteli
07-26-2004, 06:38 PM
I usually fly vvs or american planes, but i decided to stary a finnish campaign with a bf109g2 today.
I have newfound respect for the entire f*cking luftwaffe now, i mean, how the hell could they fight with these things?
I tried to use energy management and B&Z but still, weak weapons and paper airframe...and the IL-2 can turn better.
Is this real? Was it really like that?
How in gods name did they dominate on the Ostfront?
i tried all the german planes in QMB and same result. How?!?

Ya sizhu i smotru chuzhoya neba iz chuzhoya okna, i ne vidyem ne odnoi znakom iz zvezdiy,ya hodil po vsyem dorogo iz tuda i suda, a vernusya i ne smog, razgredyet sledi, no isli yest karmane pachka sigaret nachat vsye ne tak uzh plocha na syevodnachniy dyen-Victor Tsoi, Kino (Gruppa Krovi)

Istreliteli
07-26-2004, 06:38 PM
I usually fly vvs or american planes, but i decided to stary a finnish campaign with a bf109g2 today.
I have newfound respect for the entire f*cking luftwaffe now, i mean, how the hell could they fight with these things?
I tried to use energy management and B&Z but still, weak weapons and paper airframe...and the IL-2 can turn better.
Is this real? Was it really like that?
How in gods name did they dominate on the Ostfront?
i tried all the german planes in QMB and same result. How?!?

Ya sizhu i smotru chuzhoya neba iz chuzhoya okna, i ne vidyem ne odnoi znakom iz zvezdiy,ya hodil po vsyem dorogo iz tuda i suda, a vernusya i ne smog, razgredyet sledi, no isli yest karmane pachka sigaret nachat vsye ne tak uzh plocha na syevodnachniy dyen-Victor Tsoi, Kino (Gruppa Krovi)

BlakJakOfSpades
07-26-2004, 06:43 PM
well im no authority on teh subject, but they were better trained and stuff...that helped i guess, and u must be BnZing wrong or somethin, cuz that stuff works

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carguy_
07-26-2004, 07:21 PM
Most of the time victims didn`t see the attacks.
LW also had great team tactics which let them defeat any airborne enemy.

MG151/20 and MK108 were better in real life too.

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horseback
07-26-2004, 07:27 PM
It's tough to master a new type aircraft in an afternoon, particularly one that demands a different strategy than the one you're used to...

I'm doing the Barbarossa Campaigns for both the 109 and the 190, and I find that I have to practice QMBs for a an hour or two before attempting a mission after changing pilot careers.

cheers

horseback

"Here's your new Mustangs, boys. You can learn to fly'em on the way to the target. Cheers!" -LTCOL Don Blakeslee, 4th FG CO, February 27th, 1944

heywooood
07-26-2004, 07:52 PM
The Me109 in all marks is a great airplane.

Purpose built to fight and fly - ahead of its time in most engineering aspects and well armed..especially G series onward.

If you cant win a high percentage of engagements 1v1 in equal era matches in this plane vs almost every other type - there is something wrong with your flying.



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FI-Aflak
07-26-2004, 08:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by heywooood:
The Me109 in all marks is a great airplane.

Purpose built to fight and fly - ahead of its time in most engineering aspects and well armed..especially G series onward.

If you cant win a high percentage of engagements 1v1 in equal era matches in this plane vs almost every other type - there is something wrong with your flying.



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"Check your guns"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Offline, I repeatadly win against 4 ace G6's in a P-47 D10 at 4000 meters initial alt.

But I can't hope in a G6 and beat for ace P-47's.

Same thing, I can take 4 ace zeroes in a P-40, but I can't take 4 ace P-40s in a zero. heh, oh well, offline doesn't really count, maybe the allied AI is just slightly more suited to their aircraft. The weird thing is I can kill 4 ace spits in a 109 . . . but not the other way around, and the spit is better at just about everything.

roybaty
07-26-2004, 09:31 PM
Try coming up low from behind and pluging the radiator.

Why does that sound like some sorta off color euphemism http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

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WUAF_Badsight
07-26-2004, 09:50 PM
what carguy said

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