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tsisqua
05-26-2004, 06:21 AM
~S~ All

The following is the text of a message that I sent out to the good people at PC Pilot magazine. It was an idea that I had to make the game updates/addons/patches a little more accesible to those with dialup, or no connection issues:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Hi!

Just a very brief message, with a suggestion.

IL2/FB is the only FS that I can think of receiving such wonderful attention from the developer. The pilots in the community are not always able to download the simulation's updates, due to bandwidth/dialup issues. I think it would be wonderful if you could include these huge patches with your magazine's bonus cd's. It would be a great help.

We have pilots from all over the world helping each other out with this by burning the data to cd's, then mailing it out to those with dialup, or those who are seldom online due to isp issues. They are mostly offline enthusiasts using a friend's PC, or a public computer to post at the IL2 forum.

Your fine publication receives alot of attention at the site, and Ubi does a good job of letting virtual pilots know about you. I think it would be wonderful PR to return the favor in this way.

Thank you for your time and consideration.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I would hope that if this interests you, you would also email them at mail@pcpilot.net .

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[This message was edited by crazyivan1970 on Wed May 26 2004 at 10:37 PM.]

tsisqua
05-26-2004, 06:21 AM
~S~ All

The following is the text of a message that I sent out to the good people at PC Pilot magazine. It was an idea that I had to make the game updates/addons/patches a little more accesible to those with dialup, or no connection issues:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Hi!

Just a very brief message, with a suggestion.

IL2/FB is the only FS that I can think of receiving such wonderful attention from the developer. The pilots in the community are not always able to download the simulation's updates, due to bandwidth/dialup issues. I think it would be wonderful if you could include these huge patches with your magazine's bonus cd's. It would be a great help.

We have pilots from all over the world helping each other out with this by burning the data to cd's, then mailing it out to those with dialup, or those who are seldom online due to isp issues. They are mostly offline enthusiasts using a friend's PC, or a public computer to post at the IL2 forum.

Your fine publication receives alot of attention at the site, and Ubi does a good job of letting virtual pilots know about you. I think it would be wonderful PR to return the favor in this way.

Thank you for your time and consideration.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I would hope that if this interests you, you would also email them at mail@pcpilot.net .

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[This message was edited by crazyivan1970 on Wed May 26 2004 at 10:37 PM.]

SeaFireLIV
05-26-2004, 06:34 AM
Very considerate. I remember when I had no internet connection (or just dial-up), patches on magazine CDs/DVDs were the only way for me to get updates. They were life-savers.

Good stuff.

Edit: I`ve sent a supporting message too. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[This message was edited by SeaFireLIV on Wed May 26 2004 at 05:43 AM.]

tsisqua
05-26-2004, 06:47 AM
Rgr that, Seafire. I have a VERY good connection, so this is not an issue for me. Its just that I have been following the threads posted by the poor chaps who don't, and its kind of touching what people will do to help each other get updated.

Thanks for helping, Gusdi(mate)

Tsisqua

Moog42
05-26-2004, 09:38 AM
PC Pilot is great for including patches on their cover discs. I'm also a dialup user (soon to switch to broadband - yay!) but to toot the PC Pilot horn, in the last three issues (for IL-2 alone, never mind other sims for which they have manifold fantastic patches and add-ons) they have featured the UQMG, the version 0005 uprgrade, and the FB 1.22 patch. Bearing in mind that the magazine is published bimonthly, they can only provide what is available at the time of going to press. Readers must wait another two months for subsequent issues even if patches have been released in the meantime. I'd give you short odds that AEP 2.01 patch will come with the July/August issue... FFS, they practically gave the AEP two reviews!

The corner tag on the Mar/Apr issue read "LATEST LOMAC & IL-2 FB PATCHES ON THE CD!" and the most recent issue has "COMPLETE FALCON 4.0 SP4 UPGRADE ON THE CD" - Stirling work I would say, and surely a vital resource for us dial-up users!

Play It Cool

-Moog

SUPERAEREO
05-26-2004, 09:39 AM
Being in a hurry I copied and pasted your letter, brilliant idea Tsisqua!

S!


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zjulik
05-26-2004, 10:04 AM
How about this:
"This issue‚'s CD includes......A wonderful 14-minute movie titled Secret Weapon Over Stalingrad surely deserves an FS Oscar and really shows just how good IL-2 Forgotten Battles looks."

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Chuck_Older
05-26-2004, 10:28 AM
Seems like a remarkably good idea to me

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tsisqua
05-26-2004, 11:23 AM
Been shopping. Just got home.

Perhaps it would be good to ask Thunak to see about immediate forwarding to the editor to get the patches included as quickly as possible. I saw that SWOS was included on one of this months disks (they have 4!). Evidently, they know a good thing when they see it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

tsisqua

tsisqua
05-26-2004, 04:13 PM
I just recieved an email from PC Pilot:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Thanks for your mail. We do our best to support all the IL2 patches and glad
to hear that the community has heard about this.

As a quick recap:
The first big IL-2 patch was 1.02b and this was on issue 15. With Issue 17
we included 1.04b2 and 1.04 Combined. On Issue 18 we included the 1.1 patch
and for Issue 19 we included the 1.2 patch and 1.2ov (with voice stuff) was
on Issue 20. We included the Experten campaign freeware on Issue 24 and the
1.1 update to Forgotten Battles was on 25. With Issue 26 we featured Demian
Souza's Uber Demon Quick Mission Builder and an update to this was on the 27
CD. Issue 27 also featured the 1.22 update for FB and the 2.01 patch for
Aces will be on the issue 29 CD which is posting out to subscribers (and
Instant Issue readers) on 9th June and in the shops (or from
www.pcpilot.net (http://www.pcpilot.net)) about a week later.

Hope this information is of some help.

Kind regds and thanks for choosing PC Pilot


Dermot Stapleton
Managing Editor
PC Pilot Magazine
www.pcpilot.net<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> (http://www.pcpilot.net<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>)

So, there ya go. Apparently the magazine and Ubi are WAY ahead of me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Looks like a great magazine, with all that is included looks likes like its worth its pricy tag of $50.00 US for a year . . . especially pricy, since that is only 6 issues, but once again, we are dealing with a niche market. They estimate a grand total of 5,000,000 flight simmers, worldwide. I didn't realize that we were such a minority.


Tsisqua

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tsisqua
05-26-2004, 09:50 PM
Bump For The Dialers http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

adlabs6
05-26-2004, 11:19 PM
Thanks Tsisqua, I didn't know that PCPilot did this.

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wayno7777
05-26-2004, 11:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tsisqua:
Bump For The Dialers http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bump for me, I mentioned this in a post the other day. Computer Pilot Mag also has a Cover CD now.

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crazyivan1970
05-26-2004, 11:40 PM
Well done ts - sorry i edited header to get more attention and to add two thumbs up http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

V!
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SUPERAEREO
05-27-2004, 02:48 AM
Got the same email as Tsisqua from PCpilot.

I just got ADSL but spent years with dial-up and I remember patch downloads that lasted the whole night, so it's good to have them on CD...

S!

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tsisqua
05-27-2004, 06:53 AM
Thanks for making this a sticky for now, Ivan. I don't mind at all that you edited the header. Whatever it takes to help these guys get patched.

Also, I live in the Ohio Valley, and if anyone in this part of the USA would like it burned to CD, I'd be more than glad to mail it to ya. Just PM me.


Tsisqua

Capt._Tenneal
05-27-2004, 08:08 AM
I can verify first-hand that PC PILOT has been keeping current with the patches on their CDs. I've picked up a few issues when they come out in my local bookstore, and they have very good support for the IL-2 sims.

lil_labbit
05-27-2004, 08:18 AM
Great move Tsisqua http://members.home.nl/lil.labbit/smiley/cooolll.gif

I'm gonne look into this PC-Pilot magazine (don't know if its for sale here - if it is it will be even more $ http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ), at least the next issue with the V2.01...

A caution to other players... If you burn it on CD - These will LOOSE their data (depending on the make) in 2 to 5 years http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif "Normal" Pressed CD's do not...

I have been known to pay $25 + for ONE issue of FutureMark's "Computer Arts" magazine http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif where they sell it in England for 5 English Pounds http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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BigBoy01
05-27-2004, 11:07 AM
Agreed, Capt._Tenneal, every time a patch on just about any sim is released I'm always keeping my fingers crossedthat it will be in the next issue of PC Pilot, and, not surprisingly, it usually is. Biggest difficulty, I think they only publish 6 times a year.

lil_labbit, PC Pilot and Computer Pilot are the only two flight sim dedicated mags I'm familiar with and I enjoy and subscribe to both of them. They seem pretty fair in their assessments on new sims and hardware, especially when you consider where they derive their advertising revenues from.

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tsisqua
05-28-2004, 07:43 AM
One more bump, with the offer to mail the patch to anyone who doesn't mind waiting for the US Mail. It seems that we will get another patch in a few weeks, and the offer will still stand, provided that nothing catastrophic happens. LOL


Tsisqua

Philipscdrw
05-28-2004, 07:52 AM
I always used Getright to save interrupted downloads in those unfortunate days before blueyonder.

However, we've upgraded the Internet PC to WinXP, which has broken our home network, so now I have to find a CD-R to put in my namesake Philips CD-RW drive to take the patches to the Il-2 computer!

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foxhound31
06-16-2004, 04:32 AM
Philpscdrw

(What the ??? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

I had the same difficulty when adding a Sony drive into XP, I had to get an upgrade from the software co' to use the drive+XP+software. In my case the software was from Roxio. Works gfine now. hope this helps.

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Bearcat99
06-16-2004, 05:09 AM
Hey Pete.. they already do that actually. The thing is finding the magazine in some areas. PC Pilot and Computer Pilot both put every patch and freeware upgrade on CD. They do the same with UBERD's software as well.

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Capt._Tenneal
06-16-2004, 08:23 AM
I've always known Barnes & Noble to be a reliable source of PC Pilot (in their magazine section) at least here in the USA. Borders might be too. But these bookstores only carry around a dozen copies, so if those 12 are sold you're SOL. Thankfully their main customers aren't flight simmers so you might be able to see the latest issue on the shelves longer than most magazines.

woofiedog
06-16-2004, 11:16 AM
THANK'S Tsisqua!!!! I've got the old dial-up service and its not allways a issue... but on the last Server Patch I spent over two weeks play around with it... till I was able to download it successfully.
Again A Big THANK'S!

seany1965
12-18-2004, 12:54 PM
Hello you lot.

I'm a new member and was looking for info on updates and patches for my Forgotten battles V1.0 two disc set. I am aware that there have been several versions of this game and not all patches are suitable for all versions, so I was wondering if anyone could tell me which patches are suitable for the version I have, please? This way I can ask those people at PC pilot if they still have any patches on disc which would help me out.

I need these things on disc because my best download speed is about 5kb per second and 60~100MB downloads are out of the question.

How do I enable the mirror on my hurricane? Is this one of the issues dealt with by the patches?

Is there any way of making the tanks/trucks bigger so that I can actually see them without being so low that I'm about to crash?

An Idea I've had is for an adjustable 'vulnerability' level. This is because I'd have no chance if I chose to be vulnerable, but being completely invulnerable is a bit like cheating and spoils it a bit. But having adjustable levels going from, say 1 up to 10, would give me a chance to progress without being blown up instantly. Is there any way of suggesting this to those who could do something about it?

I think I've said enough for now.

tsisqua
12-18-2004, 01:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by seany1965:
Hello you lot.

I'm a new member and was looking for info on updates and patches for my Forgotten battles V1.0 two disc set. I am aware that there have been several versions of this game and not all patches are suitable for all versions, so I was wondering if anyone could tell me which patches are suitable for the version I have, please? This way I can ask those people at PC pilot if they still have any patches on disc which would help me out. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

All you need is the 1.22over1.0 patch, as I believe that it has everything released in the prior patches/upgrades. It is a 116meg download, yes, huge. PC Pilot keeps all of their stuff archived, so they should have it. Of course, by the time that you get it from them, you could have left your machine on while you were at work, or whatever, and have it in about a day or so. The alternative for download is to visit your local public library, if they have internet machines with a burner and a T1 connection.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I need these things on disc because my best download speed is about 5kb per second and 60~100MB downloads are out of the question. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know. Really sux. Like I said, it is a 116meg dl, but you could also use a download manager program that will allow you to pause the dl, then resume it later. Here is an example of what may be a good one: http://www.freshdevices.com/

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>How do I enable the mirror on my hurricane? Is this one of the issues dealt with by the patches? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Go to the controls button on the main screen after you start the game. Scroll all the way down to "Miscelaneous" and assign a key, or group of keys to turn them on and off. It causes a big hit on frame rate for some machines, so you will want to be able to turn it off if that is the case for you.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Is there any way of making the tanks/trucks bigger so that I can actually see them without being so low that I'm about to crash? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Default binding is Page Down/End/Delete for field of view. Delete key gives you the largest images, and is comparable to you looking at the real world through a monitor sized box . . . with tunnel vision. You may also assign keys that will allow you several differing magnifications.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>An Idea I've had is for an adjustable 'vulnerability' level. This is because I'd have no chance if I chose to be vulnerable, but being completely invulnerable is a bit like cheating and spoils it a bit. But having adjustable levels going from, say 1 up to 10, would give me a chance to progress without being blown up instantly. Is there any way of suggesting this to those who could do something about it? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your best bet with this request is to go to Olegs Ready Room forum. All such things are hard coded into the game, and as it is, there are only the two options available for vulnerability: off/on.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I think I've said enough for now. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't sweat it, Mate. I still have questions after all this time, and I am sure that you will think of more http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Good Luck, and Welcome, Mate.
Tsisqua

MaxBruder
12-18-2004, 02:33 PM
Since you mentioned "Glacier Girl", those of you who have not read the book "The Lost Squadron" by David Yates, by all means should do so. I am fortunate enough to have one that was given to me that has Pat Epps signature in it. A great read for aircraft buffs.

tenmmike
12-18-2004, 02:36 PM
what i do is go down to the local pc repair place or kinkos etc and ask them to DL it for me and burn it to cd the most i ever paid was $5 usaly its only a buck or 2

scottmal1
12-19-2004, 08:57 AM
I've been reading pc pilot for the last 1.5 years, and from what i've seen of their excellent cover discs (i would happily pay the ‚£4.99 just for the disc, i consider the mag a bonus! as i'm on a 56k dial up) i would be very surprised if the P/F patches were not on the 'march/april edition as i've got the jan/feb issue this morning (in the uk) and the current patches havent made it, although there is an excellent 8 page review on P/F and they give it 5/5.

seany1965
12-22-2004, 08:44 PM
To tsisqua,

thanks for the info.

A download manager isn't much use to me as none of them could speed things up so much that it becomes economically viable for me, and apart from that I prefer to have things on disc anyway so that I can re-install should there be any trouble with my PC.

To tenmmike,

What you do is not a bad idea but, unfortunately for me it would merely make the staff at my local shop even more sick of the sight of me and my completely and annoyingly sh*te and unreliable money pit of a PC than they are now!