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XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 02:50 PM
In here:

http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/204.html



-jippo

XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 02:50 PM
In here:

http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/204.html



-jippo

XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 03:07 PM
Hi Jippo

Man its looking great , my compliments.

Now i have a qustion.
Is it possible technikal possible to make a working lichtenstein radar?
So that we players are able to simulate real dark nightfighter missions on 100% hardsettings?
Till now no flightsim have it working yet for WW2 flight sims.
Its a dream buht it sounds great.

Thnx for ure work and hope to fly ure creation soon.
I/KG26_Oranje

XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 03:16 PM
KG26_Oranje wrote:
- Hi Jippo
-
- Man its looking great , my compliments.
-
- Now i have a qustion.
- Is it possible technikal possible to make a working
- lichtenstein radar?
- So that we players are able to simulate real dark
- nightfighter missions on 100% hardsettings?
- Till now no flightsim have it working yet for WW2
- flight sims.
- Its a dream buht it sounds great.
-
- Thnx for ure work and hope to fly ure creation soon.


Thanks to you Oranje,

I've been looking into Lictenstein B/C and SN-2 for a while now. I have few ideas how to do it but I'm not sure if the game engine could cope with it. I suspect it will require additional program modules. But Aziriphale is already making flyable He-219 Uhu, which definately will need an operating radar, so I guess we may see one some day. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I think then we could try to put one in the 88 just for the fun of it! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Do also remember that 88's flew a lot night fighting sorties without the radar, the same model we are now making. Especially in the Ostfront where there was no Himmelbett system. So they used also lot only visual attacks.


-jippo

XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 03:35 PM
CWOS

XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 03:56 PM
Looks great, Heres a couple pics that might help you with the cockpit strut dimensions. S` as you see in the drawing from airwar russia the cockpit drawing is not in perspective but the bars are the same exact messurements

<img src=http://www.freewebs.com/leadspitter/Ju882.txt>
<img src=http://www.freewebs.com/leadspitter/Ju883.txt>
<img src=http://www.freewebs.com/leadspitter/Ju884.txt>
<img src=http://www.freewebs.com/leadspitter/Ju885.txt>
<img src=http://www.freewebs.com/leadspitter/Ju886.txt>
<img src=http://www.freewebs.com/leadspitter/Ju887.txt>

http://www.freewebs.com/leadspitter/lead.txt
Good dogfighters bring ammo home, Great ones don't. (c) Leadspitter



Message Edited on 10/01/0302:58PM by LeadSpitter_

XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 04:01 PM
My grandfather was shot down 23/24 march 1944 over Berlin by a ju88 nightfighter. Sole survivor.

XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 04:14 PM
LeadSpitter_ wrote:
- Looks great, Heres a couple pics that might help you
- with the cockpit strut dimensions. S` as you see in
- the drawing from airwar russia the cockpit drawing
- is not in perspective but the bars are the same
- exact messurements


Thanks for the help, although I doubt that I will change the struts much at this point. I have already spent several days moving them back and forth trying to match them with several drawings and photographs, and I'm pretty happy with the as they are now. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

But as I said, thanks, that fighter pit in the middle is especially of some interest, and also other are worth seeing. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Where is that rear canopy from? the rusty one?

For the canopy, you may judge yourself if it is ok or not:

http://www.kolumbus.fi/jan.niukkanen/c6update2.jpg



-jippo

XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 04:31 PM
Your doing is great job jippo and thx for spending the time to creating the cockpits for some of the most wanted flyables.

Im not sure where the rear framing is from, but, I searched about 100 pages and it was a good image.

There were some ju88s discovered in russian in 96 but they were totaled and you couldnt tell what it except by the engines

http://www.freewebs.com/leadspitter/lead.txt
Good dogfighters bring ammo home, Great ones don't. (c) Leadspitter

XyZspineZyX
10-01-2003, 06:25 PM
Jippo01 wrote:
-
- KG26_Oranje wrote:
-- Hi Jippo
--
-- Man its looking great , my compliments.
--
-- Now i have a qustion.
-- Is it possible technikal possible to make a working
-- lichtenstein radar?
-- So that we players are able to simulate real dark
-- nightfighter missions on 100% hardsettings?
-- Till now no flightsim have it working yet for WW2
-- flight sims.
-- Its a dream buht it sounds great.
--
-- Thnx for ure work and hope to fly ure creation soon.
-
-
- Thanks to you Oranje,
-
- I've been looking into Lictenstein B/C and SN-2 for
- a while now. I have few ideas how to do it but I'm
- not sure if the game engine could cope with it. I
- suspect it will require additional program modules.
- But Aziriphale is already making flyable He-219 Uhu,
- which definately will need an operating radar, so I
- guess we may see one some day. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
-
- I think then we could try to put one in the 88 just
- for the fun of it! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
-
- Do also remember that 88's flew a lot night fighting
- sorties without the radar, the same model we are now
- making. Especially in the Ostfront where there was
- no Himmelbett system. So they used also lot only
- visual attacks.
-
-
--jippo
-
-
-
-

Even if the game engine could support radar, a lot of other changes would be necessary to make night fighting viable. First and foremost: the all-seeing AI. Not much fun spending 30 min. working the radar, closing in on a target, getting a visual, slowly sneak up from below and BLAM! .303 between the eyes at 600m.

But you'd also need some form of ground control, targets that actually burn when bombed, radar countermeasures, etc.

--AKD

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