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Flt-Lt-Styles
06-09-2004, 08:04 AM
I don't want to give the game away but I heard RAF legend Pete Brothers say that he flew with his rudder trimmed slightly to one side, compensating by pushing the stick to other side slightly. He therefore 'skidded' his Spitfire through the air. I also heard that German uber-ace Erich Hartmann would evade an attack from the rear by applying full rudder and puching the stick violently forwards.
Has anyone tried this (especially the Brothers trick) online and was it successful in making an attacker misdirect his/her shooting from behind?
I'm still waiting for a decent broadband connection before I try this out!

Flt-Lt-Styles
06-09-2004, 08:04 AM
I don't want to give the game away but I heard RAF legend Pete Brothers say that he flew with his rudder trimmed slightly to one side, compensating by pushing the stick to other side slightly. He therefore 'skidded' his Spitfire through the air. I also heard that German uber-ace Erich Hartmann would evade an attack from the rear by applying full rudder and puching the stick violently forwards.
Has anyone tried this (especially the Brothers trick) online and was it successful in making an attacker misdirect his/her shooting from behind?
I'm still waiting for a decent broadband connection before I try this out!

geetarman
06-09-2004, 09:28 AM
US pilots in the SWP often used hard rudder to skid through the skies when Japanese aircraft were chasing them.

In fact the accounts I've read show that many thought one "problem" the enemy fliers had was that they were too coordinated in their manuevers (i.e. they quickly learned what to expect from their enemy when in combat).

Rudder usage is valid evasion tactic, although it does not semm to work really well in FB.

WOLFMondo
06-09-2004, 09:50 AM
I tried the rudder trim thing but the trade of was a little speed although its hard to honestly tell how much effect it had. If the pilots good then they will figure it out but if the pilot is not so experianced I guess they would constantly misjudge your direction of travel.

Personally I found it a pain in the a@@ to fly like that though.

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ELEM
06-10-2004, 12:51 AM
I dont use rudder trim, but I do use uncoordinated flight to avoid enemy fire. Fools the AI no problem. Nice to see all their ammo just whizzing by harmlessly. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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BBB_Hyperion
06-10-2004, 01:06 AM
The negative G has almost no effect in FB AEP as the pilot is still able to follow your moves and is not lifted upwards. As well the effect on guns on negative g is not modeled.

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Hyperion