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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 08:17 PM
Just out of interest how does a La5 just keep looping without losing any E?

I have seen this soooo many times with the russian planes online, so I gave it a go offline, and guess what, it does'nt lose any E, you can start a loop from flat at 1000 and end up with the same E at the end of the loop at 1000. How can this be, it would have to have an engine with a minimum of a 1:1 ratio to do this.

Can some wizard out there please explain this phenomenon?

9./JG54_VoX

PS, the Yak can do it as well.

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 08:17 PM
Just out of interest how does a La5 just keep looping without losing any E?

I have seen this soooo many times with the russian planes online, so I gave it a go offline, and guess what, it does'nt lose any E, you can start a loop from flat at 1000 and end up with the same E at the end of the loop at 1000. How can this be, it would have to have an engine with a minimum of a 1:1 ratio to do this.

Can some wizard out there please explain this phenomenon?

9./JG54_VoX

PS, the Yak can do it as well.

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 08:23 PM
JG54_Vox wrote:
- Can some wizard out there please explain this
- phenomenon?

There are only three explanations I can think of.

1) The La5 had a system of temporarily negating the law of physics installed. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

2) You're making the whole thing up (I haven't seen or tested this out yet so in my mind at least it's a pssibility) /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

3) It's a bug which will be ironed-out in the upcoming patch. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

And now for my guess.... It's number three.



ps. sarcasm not intended to offend - just having fun! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 08:30 PM
Oleg was wearing his magic harry potter glasses and watching harry potter when he made the ruskie fms and damage profiles

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 09:14 PM
JG54_Vox wrote:
- How can this be, it would
- have to have an engine with a minimum of a 1:1 ratio
- to do this.

No, this is not neccessary. Btw, it totally depends on the speed and the radius of the loop.

You only need an engine to overcome the aerodynamic E-loss. First you gain altitude, you lose speed, then you lose altitude and gain speed.

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 09:18 PM
109's will do the same thing.

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 09:20 PM
[copy`npaste]Wait for the patch.[/copy`npaste]

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 09:36 PM
You were probably witnessing the AI's exaggerated flight models, don't worry about it. All AI planes have exaggerated/enhanced flight models, not just the VVS planes as some would have you believe. Expect everything to change with the patch. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 10:04 PM
kyrule2 Speaks::::
-- Expect everything to change with the patch. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

kyrule, are you saying the AI FM cheat is Patched?

Don't answer that! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 10:13 PM
If I were to guess /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif I would say that 1C/Maddox has probably devised a way to make the AI aircraft seem less resistant to the laws of physics/more human. I can't say how specifically, it's just a guess /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif .

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Message Edited on 07/02/0309:14PM by kyrule2

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 10:20 PM
BuzzU wrote:
- 109's will do the same thing.
-
True, alot of planes can do this. It ain't that hard.

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 11:02 PM
My point is that you should not be able to do it, not that its easy to do. To accomplish a loop and end up in exactly the same position where u started from is near on impossible once, but 10 times is magical powers time, unless you happen to be flying a F18 Hornet or a Lynx Helicopter.

The power to weight ratio of a piston Fighter is a big clue here. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Vox.

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 11:08 PM
JG54_Vox wrote:
- My point is that you should not be able to do it,
- not that its easy to do. To accomplish a loop and
- end up in exactly the same position where u started
- from is near on impossible once, but 10 times is
- magical powers time, unless you happen to be flying
- a F18 Hornet or a Lynx Helicopter.
-
- The power to weight ratio of a piston Fighter is a
- big clue here. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
-
- Vox.

Then you should not have targetted a single plane to point this out when it's obvious you fly on the "Other side".

Then it is seen as a whine post very quickly.

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 11:12 PM
What Buzz said, 109 can follow LA5/7 in the loop...actually it can outloop it ... same applies to split-S.. nice way to lose LA5 /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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